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Dark Azelf

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    Ok, I just wanted to ask what do you think about a physical Celebi. I looked at smogon and couldn't find a set.
    I thought about swords dance, seed bomb, zen headbutt and recover/u-turn with jolly nature...

    Celebi is inferior to basically every other grass type sweeper at Swords Dance Sweeping, it simply lacks the coverage of things like Venusaur etc, however it is a very good SD passer.

    Celebi @ Leftovers / Occa Berry
    252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 Atk
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Baton Pass
    - Recover / Magic Coat (gen 5, to reflect WW/Roar) / Substitute
    - Seed Bomb / Magic Coat / Substitute
     

    Dark Azelf

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    What are the best movesets for a lead Jirachi and Latios? Thanks for any suggestions.

    Jirachi is a pretty terrible lead these days i honestly wouldn't use it. Its better as CM sweeper or just a Scarfer.


    Latios @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Trick

    The feared Specs Latios. Draco Meteors destroys nearly everything, even some who resist it such as Scizor. Trick walls such as Blissey and Surf and Hidden Power Fire hit all the problematic Pokemon like Heatran, Tyranitar and Ferrothorn respectively.

    Latios @ Life Orb
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Recover / Psycho Shock

    Same as the above set but as a LO tank. Psycho Shock is an option for special walls.

    Latios @ Life Orb
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Surf
    - Recover / Hidden Power [Fire]

    Offensive Calm Mind. Bear in mind though without HP Fire Ferrothorn poops on you.
     
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    What are the best places to EV-train for each stat?

    They can be in Platinum or HGSS :)
     
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  • I can't seem to find it anywhere, so I'll ask here: what are some of the new and/or most popular leads in the 5th gen meta so far?

    Aside from this annoying thing, or course.

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    Skip Shot

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  • Well 5th gen meta its kind of hard to define anything as actual leads thanks to the annoying Wifi clause =/ but im pretty sure that Espeon, Xatu, Tyranitar, Voltorus, and Mienshao head the list.
     

    Vrai

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    I find that Erufuun hardly leads at all. I usually see what Skippy said but adding Politoed and Hippowdon.
     
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  • Okay, I am not really knowledgable about Team set ups and things along that line, I am just now getting into the whole Wi-Fi part of Pokemon...

    I like Houndoom and want to know what is the most effective moveset for my favorite Hell-Puppy.
     

    Baker's Bulbasaur

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  • Basically I have only jsut got back into playing pokemon again, but have already become immediately addicted!
    I have never shown an interest in playing competitively, which is why I don't play online or over WiFi, people take it too seriously me thinks lol.

    But I am at a point where I have never bothered facing or beaten toe battle frontier stuff, so I am in need of a team that will actually be good, also I am generally just interested to see what alterations anyone would make to my team.

    Gengar:
    Dark Pulse
    Shadow Ball
    Mean Look
    Confuse Ray


    Garchomp
    Dragon Rush
    Dragon Claw
    Flamethrower
    Surf


    Staraptor
    Aerial Ace
    Brave Bird
    Fly
    Close Combat


    Salemence
    Flamethrower
    Zen Headbut
    Dragon Claw
    Fly


    Raichu
    Thunder
    Quick Attack
    Thunderbolt
    Light Screen


    Lucario
    Close Combat
    Aura Sphere
    Extreme Speed
    Dragon Pulse


    I know, pretty lame huh?
    But they are all pokemon I like and that's all that matters to me, I don't mind suggestions for changing 1 or 2 of the pokemon, but certaintly not the whole team. It's mainly what move changes people believe I should make.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated
    ^^
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Okay, I am not really knowledgable about Team set ups and things along that line, I am just now getting into the whole Wi-Fi part of Pokemon...

    I like Houndoom and want to know what is the most effective moveset for my favorite Hell-Puppy.

    Houndoom @ Passho Berry
    6 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    Trait : Flash Fire
    - Nasty Plot
    - Fire Blast
    - Dark Pulse
    - Hidden Power [Grass] / Hidden Power [Fighting]

    Special sweeper. Use HP Grass in UU and HP Fighting in OU for T-Tar and Heatran.

    Houndoom @ Life Orb
    252 Atk / 32 SpA / 224 Spe
    Hasty Nature
    Trait : Flash Fire
    - Pursuit
    - Sucker Punch
    - Crunch
    - Overheat / Fire Blast

    Mix Attacker. Pursuit to trap junk, Sucker Punch for priority and Crunch for reliability against things like Chansey.

    Houndoom @ Life Orb
    100 Atk / 184 SpA / 224 Spe
    Hasty Nature
    Trait : Flash Fire
    - Nasty Plot
    - Fire Blast
    - Dark Pulse
    - Sucker Punch

    Mix Nasty Plot. Only for use in UU. Sucker Punch picks of scarfers and Dugtrio looking to smash you.
     

    Magmorter

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  • Best General Tank/Staller?

    Looking for a good general staller/tank for my team and have a few in mind, was just wondering what your opinions are?:

    Dusclops:

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    High Sp. Def, Def and HP Evs
    Toxic
    Rest
    Impison
    Mean Look

    Mean Look so they can't switch,
    Impison so they can't use Rest, Toxic or Mean Look
    Then Toxic them.
    They can't switch out, you keep healing with Leftover and rest

    Registeel:

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    High HP and Sp. Def. Evs
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Toxic
    Sesmic Toss/Earthquake

    Seismic Toss is better than Earthquake, but Earthquake can be used to hit Steels and Poisons, who are immune to Toxic.

    Walrein:

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    High Sp. Def, Def and HP Evs
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
    Ice Beam
    Toxic/Hidden Power Grass

    High HP means this thing never dies, Hidden Power Grass is used for other Waters.

    Claydol:
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    High HP and Def Evs
    Cosmic Power
    Rapid Spin
    Psychic/EQ/Explosion
    Shadow Ball

    The only pokemon that are immune to rapid spin are ghosts, so use Shadow Ball.

    Blissey:

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    High HP and Def Evs
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled
    Sesmic Toss
    Thunderwave/Toxic

    More of a healer than a tank/staller, switch out a Sp. Attacker and use aromatherapy to heal status ailments. Softboiled for instant recovery and sesmic toss for constant damage.
     
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  • Have you tried Roobushin??

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    move 1: Bulk Up
    move 2: Mach Punch
    move 3: Rock Slide / Stone Edge
    move 4: Payback / Hammer Arm
    ability: Guts
    item: Toxic Orb
    evs: 120 HP | 252 Atk | 136 SpD
    nature: Adamant
     

    Ninja Caterpie

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  • @above I'm pretty sure it's not 5th gen; might not even be 4th gen (Dusclops?), and Roobushin isn't really a "staller" in the sense that Magmorter asked for.

    We don't know the rest of your team, so we can't exactly help you that well because we don't know what the team needs (eg. if your team is SR weak, Walrein wouldn't be too good an idea). Generally, I suppose Blissey would be the superior option.
     

    Magmorter

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  • Ok well I'm currently putting a competative team together but have only Ev'ed two pokemon, Alakazam and Salamence, so I'm trying to work out what other pokemon I should EV up and add to my Team. Anyways, heres my two:

    Salamence: (Attack Sweeper) Nature: Adamant

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    148 HP / 248 Atk / 112 Spd evs

    [FONT=&quot]Fly
    [/FONT]
    Earthquake
    Dragon Dance
    [FONT=&quot]Rock Slide[/FONT]

    Alakazam: (Sp. Attack Sweeper) Nature: Modest
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    4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spd
    [FONT=&quot]Psychic[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Grass Knot[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Focus Blast[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Shadow Ball[/FONT]
    __________________________________________-

    So I was thinking Of adding Chansey as a Utility/Tank and Dusclops as Tank/Staller. I'd still have two other spots for maybe an element/type advantage attacker and maybe a utility attack hybrid? not really sure, but advice would be much appreciated. :)
     

    Ninja Caterpie

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  • Mence is banned in 4th gen, just sayin'.

    Alakazam is also frail and pretty bad. You could probably put Starmie, Gengar or Togekiss over it (personally, I'd put Starmie):

    Starmie @ Life Orb/Choice Scarf
    Nature Cure // Modest
    252 SpAtt/252 Spd/4 SpDef
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Recover/Rapid Spin/Trick

    For the last slot, Recover and Rapid Spin are whichever you want more for the Starmie and/or for the team (if it lacks a spinner, for example) and Trick is if you choose to Scarf it.

    Speaking of scarf, what are the items for your guys?
     

    Magmorter

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  • Alakazam has choice specs, salamence just has leftovers but I could maybe give him a choice band. I might switch alakazam with Gengar, and then switch Dusclops with Milotic. I could switch Tyranitar with Salamence but what do you mean
    Mence is banned in 4th gen
    ? I was also thinking maybe brining in a Mamoswine as a lead and Typhlosion or Magmortar? Here's my revised team so far then:

    Mamoswine
    : (Lead/Physical Attacker) Nature: Jolly Item: Focus Sash

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    252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Stealth Rock
    Earthquake
    Ice Shard
    Stone Edge

    Salamence
    : (Attack Sweeper) Nature: Adamant

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    148 HP / 248 Atk / 112 Spd evs

    Fly
    Earthquake
    Dragon Dance
    Rock Slide

    Gengar
    : (Sp. Attack Sweeper) Nature: Timid Item: Life Orb

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    4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Focus Blast
    Hidden Power Fire/ Explosion/ Flamethrower/ Pyschic

    Milotic
    : (Tank/Staller) Nature: Calm Item: Leftovers
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    252 HP / 192 Def / 56 SpD / 8 Spe
    Surf
    Toxic
    Ice Beam/Haze
    Recover

    Blissey
    : (Utility/Tank)

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    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    Aromatherapy
    Softboiled
    Sesmic Toss
    Thunderwave/Toxic

    Typhlosion/Magmortar: (Type Advantage/Element Sp Attackers?)
     
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    Griffinbane

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  • In 4th gen, Salamence was banned to the uber tier, meaning you can't use him in standard play, just in uber tier play. If you want to play standard, you'll need to switch Mence out.

    Tiers
     

    Magmorter

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  • Ahh that sucks! :( ahh well thanks anyway, I guess I could switch him with Tyranitar or Garchomp (assuming they aren't uber rank either?)
     
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  • How are these pokemon natures?

    How is brave nature for a squirtle? What about serious nature for a charizard? I'm going to be teaching my squirtle when he's a blastoise earthquake and some other ice move for his weaknesses. Idk what I'm going to teach charizard though so any suggestions? But I'm more interested in the natures, are these natures any good? I'm thinking of getting these two pokemon in the beginning from my SS version ( of course lvl 5)
     
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