Request an Individual Move Set Thread

[ABYAY]

Deoxys-S (speed), if allowed in OU, can be pretty powerful as a late-game cleaner.

Deoxys-S@Life Orb/Expert Belt *Bye bye metagame*
Hasty
160atk/252sp.atk/96spd

Psychic
Superpower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball

This thing really owns things hard. Superpower takes down Tyranitar and Blissey (with Life Orb, the above EVs 2HKO Blissey I believe and OHKO Tyranitar.), Psychic for general STAB, and Ice Beam for Dragons. The last option is personal preference. If Gyarados gives you trouble, then let it eat Thunderbolt, as well as other waters. If for some reason you're so terrified of Shedinja that you must kill it, Shadow Ball is there for it, Cresselia, and Dusknoir.

If Togekiss passes this some Nasty Plot boosts, then it will devastate basically everything.

If you want to take it Ubers, inform here, then sets will come for that.

 

[Mightyena537]

I need some help forming my team right now I have a Grumpig( lvl 45, Serious Nature, Own Tempo), a Gengar( Lvl 43, Timid Nature, Levitate), a Arcanine(Lvl 61, Jolly Nature, Flash Fire), and a Rampardos( LVL 54, Sassy Nature, Mold Breaker) could you please tell me some good move sets.

 

[ABYAY]

One question: Is this for an in-game team, or is this for competitive battling on wi-fi? I just wanna get that out of the way first.

 

[Ársa]

Deoxys-S (speed), if allowed in OU, can be pretty powerful as a late-game cleaner.

Deoxys-S@Life Orb/Expert Belt *Bye bye metagame*
Hasty
160atk/252sp.atk/96spd

Psychic
Superpower
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball

This thing really owns things hard. Superpower takes down Tyranitar and Blissey (with Life Orb, the above EVs 2HKO Blissey I believe and OHKO Tyranitar.), Psychic for general STAB, and Ice Beam for Dragons. The last option is personal preference. If Gyarados gives you trouble, then let it eat Thunderbolt, as well as other waters. If for some reason you're so terrified of Shedinja that you must kill it, Shadow Ball is there for it, Cresselia, and Dusknoir.

If Togekiss passes this some Nasty Plot boosts, then it will devastate basically everything.

If you want to take it Ubers, inform here, then sets will come for that.

Also note that this destroys Sweeper teams that cannot outspeed it with Choice Scarf, and using Expert Belt I was able to OHKO Blissey using Superpower, running that same spread.

EDIT: Deoxys-E should never be taking on Dusknoir, as almost all run Shadow Sneak.

~T_S

 

[SmashBrony]

For Salamence, a lack of CBMence is a major surprise for everything, so I actually suggest that since they think "LOLSPECSMENCE GO BLISSEY!". It cries as about 2/3rd of its health is shaved away if you picked Dragon Claw. Then, they gotta send in their physical wall to take a hit as well (or a Steel type if you picked Dragon Claw). Therefore, my answer is Choice Band Salamence. Dragon Claw/Earthquake/Stone Edge/Flamethrower (for downing Skarm/Forretress) Wouldn't you think mixmence is harder to counter because it's not locked onto 1 attack?

For Gyarados, there are mixed feelings. Bulky Gyarados is easier to counter due to lower speed, but it can switch in and even counter things itself. The DD Sweeper is harder to counter, but you can't get it in very well due to less bulk. Hmmm....if I sent out gyarados after a team mate faints, it'd work very well...or I can swicth it into a earthquake...But still....would gyarados be better off as a bulky pokemon?[/quote] Comments in bold. Gah...I'm confused about Gyara....i need a voice of experience..

 

[Ársa]

For Salamence, a lack of CBMence is a major surprise for everything, so I actually suggest that since they think "LOLSPECSMENCE GO BLISSEY!". It cries as about 2/3rd of its health is shaved away if you picked Dragon Claw. Then, they gotta send in their physical wall to take a hit as well (or a Steel type if you picked Dragon Claw). Therefore, my answer is Choice Band Salamence. Dragon Claw/Earthquake/Stone Edge/Flamethrower (for downing Skarm/Forretress) Wouldn't you think mixmence is harder to counter because it's not locked onto 1 attack?

For Gyarados, there are mixed feelings. Bulky Gyarados is easier to counter due to lower speed, but it can switch in and even counter things itself. The DD Sweeper is harder to counter, but you can't get it in very well due to less bulk. Hmmm....if I sent out gyarados after a team mate faints, it'd work very well...or I can swicth it into a earthquake...But still....would gyarados be better off as a bulky pokemon?[/quote] Comments in bold. Gah...I'm confused about Gyara....i need a voice of experience..

He means that with some EV investment, Gyarados is able to come in and Intimidate physical threats, while being able to take damage without be KO'd, the DD up on the possible switch and proceed to sweep. In regards to CB Mence, Mixmence is weaker purely because it doesn't have Choice Band, but it does obviously counter both better, hence it is Mixmence, but ABY was simply giving you an option. CB Mence I prefer as leads over Mixmence. BulkyMence is another option people have been playing with, and I must say I love it.

Salamence@Leftovers
Jolly
220 HP, 18 Atk, 196 Def, 76 Spd

Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Roost
Earthquake

This can absorb Ice Fangs from the likes of Hippowdon and Roost off damage while DD'ing up, allowing you to sweep. A personal favourite of many of the S&M raters currently.

~T_S

 

[Aquilae]

BulkyMence can't wall without a spinner either way, and it NEEDS to attack to guarantee a KO on Luke, which means no recovery either way and LO recoil. Personally I've stopped using it considering that it is inferior to the sweeper sets in my opinion.

I never seen a Blissey switch straight into a Salamence on Shoddy before, most likely they would just switch to a Steel-type first time or they would leave the current pokemon in to scout its moveset.

 

[supersmashbro93]

i need a wall strategy any pokemon will do i not much of a wall person but i guess i need one

how do i get super power on deoxys

 

[Outlawed]

I have been trying for ages, to make a well balanced team with Tyranitar, Gyarados and Garchomp. I haven't been able to figure the 3 remaining pokemon.
CB Tar, Bulky Dos, and a Scarfchomp. I need the 3 extra ones figured. thanks.

 

[Mightyena537]

One question: Is this for an in-game team, or is this for competitive battling on wi-fi? I just wanna get that out of the way first.

Its for Wi-fi battle please help me

 

[ABYAY]

Alright; first and foremost, some natures need tweaking. Grumpig should be Calm nature since it's most likely your special wall, but you can check here.

https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/grumpig There's info on Grumpig.

Luckily, Gengar and Arcanine have good natures for their stats. Give Arcanine some physical attacks like Extremespeed, Flare Blitz, Thunder Fang, and a very powerful fire move like Fire Blast or Overheat. Intimidate is generally a better option on Arcanine, but Flash Fire is decent enough if you switch in on a fire attack. Gengar can use something like Hypnosis/Shadow Ball/Focus Blast/Thunderbolt, something along those lines.

Rampardos should be scrapped as well. Sassy is one of the worst natures for it. Jolly/Adamant are the only natures you can really use for it.

Give us their movesets, and we'll give criticism/fixing of them.

 

[SmashBrony]

He means that with some EV investment, Gyarados is able to come in and Intimidate physical threats, while being able to take damage without be KO'd, the DD up on the possible switch and proceed to sweep. In regards to CB Mence, Mixmence is weaker purely because it doesn't have Choice Band, but it does obviously counter both better, hence it is Mixmence, but ABY was simply giving you an option. CB Mence I prefer as leads over Mixmence. BulkyMence is another option people have been playing with, and I must say I love it.

Salamence@Leftovers
Jolly
220 HP, 18 Atk, 196 Def, 76 Spd

Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Roost
Earthquake

This can absorb Ice Fangs from the likes of Hippowdon and Roost off damage while DD'ing up, allowing you to sweep. A personal favourite of many of the S&M raters currently.

~T_S

So....gyarados is better off as a bulky pokemon?
I've decided to use mixmence....it'll work well, since my plan is to weaken my foes with defensive pokemon, then mop the floor with them with my sweepers when my defensive pokemon done their job, or have fainted.

 

[ABYAY]

Well, you're using a stall team to weaken them slowly with defensive Pokemon, so yes, Bulky Gyarados is the way to go. Make sure you get other Pokemon with Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Stealth Rock in play as well, and a Rapid Spinner to keep the field cleared of such hazards from your side.

 

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You could also use RestTalk Gyarados. It can sponge hits on either side of the damage spectrum, and status does not affect him.

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Adamant
252 HP / 96 Atk / 80 Def / 60 SpD / 20 Spe
~ Waterfall
~ Stone Edge / Dragon Dance
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk

 

[SmashBrony]

Well, I'm not making just one team...
i'm training random useful pokemons to make multiple teams at once...

 

[Lalapizzame]

Would Dusclops be considered UU this generation with Dusknoir and all? Also, I would like a moveset for Dusclops if it's UU. :D

 

[airconditioning]

It's not. NFE Pokemon are placed in the same tier as their fully evolved counterparts if they are no different than said counterparts. This is to prevent UU from turning into OU lite (o hai, Sneasel and Chansey!)

Prevos that are different from their evos (Scyther, Dragonair, possibly Clamperl) are placed in their own tier.

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

I would like to know which set is better for Dusknoir? CM set is out of the question due to low base SpAtk. RestTalk isn't as good as somneone like Snorlax. So should I use CBnoir or Anti-Spinoir? The sets for them are as follows:
Dusknoir @ Choice Band
Adamant 252HP/252Attack/6Speed
Shadow Sneak/Shadow Punch
Thunderpunch
Icepunch/Thunderpunch/Pursuit
Earthquake
My only question is, if I can teach Dusclops the elemental punches on Emerald, migrate it over and breed with my adamant Ditto, if Duskull will learn it? I'm not really sure how else to teach it as breeding on Emerald may take a while.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Thunderpunch
Shadow Sneak
W-o-W
Pain Split
No questions here. Once again, the elemental punches are the only true problem. Everything else is learnt through level up so this would be my preferred set. Plus, no choice items here.

 

[Xairmo]

I would like to know which set is better for Dusknoir? CM set is out of the question due to low base SpAtk. RestTalk isn't as good as somneone like Snorlax. So should I use CBnoir or Anti-Spinoir? The sets for them are as follows:
Dusknoir @ Choice Band
Adamant 252HP/252Attack/6Speed
Shadow Sneak/Shadow Punch
Thunderpunch
Icepunch/Thunderpunch/Pursuit
Earthquake
My only question is, if I can teach Dusclops the elemental punches on Emerald, migrate it over and breed with my adamant Ditto, if Duskull will learn it? I'm not really sure how else to teach it as breeding on Emerald may take a while.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Thunderpunch
Shadow Sneak
W-o-W
Pain Split
No questions here. Once again, the elemental punches are the only true problem. Everything else is learnt through level up so this would be my preferred set. Plus, no choice items here.

You can get the elemental punches on Dusknoir by giving a heartscale to the move tutor in Diamond and Pearl as well.

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

You can? Awesome! I didn't know that so I was just trying to check up on that. Now, is there a way of getting more than 1 reaper cloth in-game? My friend was training some of my pokemon and I told him to toss away some items but I think he tossed away the Reaper Cloth as well.