Request an Individual Move Set Thread

[*SP addict DS noob*]

I need Gengar movsets

So far, this is all I can think off.

Gengar @ Life Orb/Black Slude/Leftovers
Timid: 252 sp atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Energy Ball/Focus Blast

Ball to OHKO Swampert and do some decent damage to Rhyperior and Ttar. Blast is for a kill on Ttar and nice dents in Blissey and others.

OR

Gengar @ Wide Lens
Hasty: 252 sp atk, 252 spd, 6 def
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Thunderbolt
Destiny Bond


AND


Gengar @ Life Orb
Hasty: 252 sp atk, 252 spd, 6 def
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Destiny Bond

These are my crappy preferences of what a Gengar's movesets would look like.
Any better ones?

crystalvelox, nice Kingdra movesets there. although life orb isn't a good item for it...

 

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Xatu @ Life Orb
Timid
82 HP/252 SpA/176 Spe
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball/HP Fighting
Psychic
Wish/Substitute/Roost

CM Xatu. It seems a bit gimmicky, but it could work in theory. Synchronize or Early Bird work, as they make Xatu quite unique as a CMer. Synchronize makes it so status will back-fire on the user, making it harder to stop her. Early Bird does make sleep moves less viable to handicap her. It should be noted that a super effective HP Fighting only has 5 points stronger than a STAB Psychic.

Speed EVs let it outrun even Max Spe Jolly Heracross (by 2 points) Calculations below:

1 CM Psychic vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Rotom: 94.74%-111.51%
1 CM Psychic vs. 40 HP/252 SpD Lanturn: 49.38%- 58.35%
1 CM Psychic vs. 252 HP/252 SpD Clefable: 45.18%-53.30%

1 CM Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP/252 SpD Hypno: 48.13%-56.68%
1 CM Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP/0 SpD Claydol: 72.84%-85.80%
1 CM Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP/96 SpD Grumpig: 57.69%-68.13%

 

[sandfox]

Need help with team, what roles should they have(tank, sp. sweeper,etc.) and how should their ev be distributed, changes would be welcomed. Also if possible(not necessary) if u could keep the same pokemon

Blastoise@?
nature: modest
trait: torrent
moveset:
hydro pump
ice beam
aqua ring
mirror coat

Magmortar@?
nature: timid
trait: flame body
moveset:
fire blast
overheat
thunderbolt
confuse ray

Electivire@?
nature: hasty
trait: motor drive
moveset:
thunder
thunder wave
ice punch
cross chop

Rhyperior@?
nature: adamant
trait: lightning rod
moveset:
earthquake
stone edge
megahorn
rock wrecker

Alakazam@?
nature: timid
trait: synchronize
moveset:
psychic
shadow ball
focus blast
energy ball

Machamp@choice band
nature: adamant
trait: no guard
Moveset:
dynamic punch
cross chop
ice punch
thunder punch

 

[Lunar Fang]

Need help with team, what roles should they have(tank, sp. sweeper,etc.) and how should their ev be distributed, changes would be welcomed. Also if possible(not necessary) if u could keep the same pokemon

Blastoise@?
nature: modest
trait: torrent
moveset:
hydro pump
ice beam
aqua ring
mirror coat

Magmortar@?
nature: timid
trait: flame body
moveset:
fire blast
overheat
thunderbolt
confuse ray

Electivire@?
nature: hasty
trait: motor drive
moveset:
thunder
thunder wave
ice punch
cross chop

Rhyperior@?
nature: adamant
trait: lightning rod
moveset:
earthquake
stone edge
megahorn
rock wrecker

Alakazam@?
nature: timid
trait: synchronize
moveset:
psychic
shadow ball
focus blast
energy ball

Machamp@choice band
nature: adamant
trait: no guard
Moveset:
dynamic punch
cross chop
ice punch
thunder punch

I think you're better off making a RMT, it's probably going to take more than 1 or 2 posts to help you out.

 

[sandfox]

I think you're better off making a RMT, it's probably going to take more than 1 or 2 posts to help you out.

Thanks for the advice, as u can see I am just starting into competitive battle but I well get right on it

 

[Zurich]

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Adamant/ Swift Swim
252 Atk/ 216 Spe/ 40 Hp
Waterfall
Outrage
Dragon Dance

Dragon Dance and life orb place it's attack power to a little bit above the 600 mark. Which combined with outrage hits pokemon extremely hard. Waterfall is for pokemon for STAB and to hit steel types that would other wise resist outrage. With this set draco meteor is hardly going to hit many other pokemon harder that outrage and waterfall are already doing so I've no need for it.
252 Atk is tp increase attack and I reasoned that with 216 Evs in spe that is enough to outspeed +speed skymin. Extra Evs in HP.

The thing I need answered is a more suitable EV spread and 4th moveslot. I feel that the EV spread wastes too much in speed which could be spent on improving bulkyness in Hp. Note: This is Kingdra IS NOT going to be used on a rain dance team.

mmm you can use substitute, luckily you will get some free DD set up to sweep.
With that more Evs in HP you will be able to make an other sub (i think)

 

[whishmaker]

electivire@ life orb/ expert belt
adamant nature
ev's: 6 hp / 252 atk / 252 spe
ice punch
thunder punch
cross chop
earthquake

a physical sweeper that is super efectiv to most things.

plz, rate

 

[Zurich]

electivire@ life orb/ expert belt
adamant nature
ev's: 6 hp / 252 atk / 252 spe
ice punch
thunder punch
cross chop
earthquake

a physical sweeper that is super efectiv to most things.

plz, rate

You took that from smogon... at list try to be more original.

 

[DarkTyphlosion157]

That is the standard physical Electivire and it is overrated garbage that is walled by so many Pokemon you wouldn't think they'd all fit on a tiny little cartridge.

 

[Lunar Fang]

electivire@ life orb/ expert belt
Lonely nature
252 Atk / 80 SpA / 176 Spe
ice punch
Thunderbolt
cross chop
earthquake

a physical sweeper that is super efectiv to most things.

plz, rate

Not only is it easy to physically wall, it just doesn't hit hard enough period. The idea that being super effective = viable is a fallacy.*Shows vire hate* Anyway fix'd

 

[Dark Azelf]

electivire@ life orb/ expert belt
adamant nature
ev's: 6 hp / 252 atk / 252 spe
ice punch
thunder punch
cross chop
earthquake

a physical sweeper that is super efectiv to most things.

plz, rate

Fire Punch >> eq so Zong, Forry etc dont poop on you as much. But still that set is walled by the metagame.


Let me introduce you to the "Not so sucky vire"



Electivire@Life Orb
Mild Nature
80 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 176 speed
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden power Ice / Hidden power Grass
- Flamethrower
- Cross Chop

Fails against less.

 

[Detox]

electivire@ life orb/ expert belt
adamant nature
ev's: 6 hp / 252 atk / 252 spe
ice punch
thunder punch
cross chop
earthquake

a physical sweeper that is super efectiv to most things.

plz, rate

Wow, have this same vire,and thanks to no defense EVs,it fails.

btw is this a good Raikou?

Raikou @ Life Orb
Modest
126 SpA 126 attack 252 speed 6 Hp/def/sp def

Thunderbolt/thunder fang
Hidden power(dragon) (idk, something got screwed up...)
Crunch
roar

 

[Dark Azelf]

Wow, have this same vire,and thanks to no defense EVs,it fails.

btw is this a good Raikou?

Raikou @ Life Orb
Modest
126 SpA 126 attack 252 speed 6 Hp/def/sp def

Thunderbolt/thunder fang
Hidden power(dragon) (idk, something got screwed up...)
Crunch
roar

No...


Riakou@Leftovers
64 HP / 96 SP.ATT / 96 SP.DEF / 252 SPEED
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden power Ice / Hidden power Grass

 

[Glitter Stain]

Wow, have this same vire,and thanks to no defense EVs,it fails.

What on Earth? The only problem with the shown Vire is that it has Thunderpunch over Thunderbolt. (And even that is plausible).

Why in the name of hell would you ever, ever put Defense EVs on a Physical/Special/Mixed Sweeper?

 

[Sora_8920]

Wow, have this same vire,and thanks to no defense EVs,it fails.

btw is this a good Raikou?

Raikou @ Life Orb
Timid
126 SpA 126 attack 252 speed 6 Hp/def/sp def

Thunderbolt
Hidden power(dragon) (idk, something got screwed up...)
Substitute
Calm Mind

Use Sub >> CM if you aren't using 3rd Gen. EDIT: Beaten.

 

[Detox]

Time to undo some EV training....btw...Is this a good regirock?

Regirock @ leftovers
Impish
252 Def 252 Atk 6 Hp

Earthquake
Rockslide
Superpower
Curse

basically a physical wall....

 

[Dark Azelf]

Time to undo some EV training....btw...Is this a good regirock?

Regirock @ leftovers
Impish
252 Def 252 Atk 6 Hp

Earthquake
Rockslide
Superpower
Curse

basically a physical wall....

What in the..Super Power and Curse is counter productive..


Regirock@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 DEF
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Thunderwave / Toxic
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake / Hammer Arm

Support

Regirock@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 DEF
Careful Nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Earthquake / Hammer Arm
- Stone Edge

STalk

Regirock@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 DEF
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Earthquake / Hammer Arm
- Stone Edge
- Explosion / Fire Punch / Ice Punch

If you want to utilize curse..


Use careful since it has like >9000 physical def anyway and in Sandstorm it makes a fantastic dual tank/wall.

 

[Glitter Stain]

Time to undo some EV training....btw...Is this a good regirock?

Regirock @ leftovers
Impish
252 Def 252 Atk 6 Hp

Earthquake
Rockslide
Superpower
Curse

basically a physical wall....

Regirock fails horribly without Special Defense EVs. Careful Nature, pleeease.

EDIT: Beaten. :[

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

Was thinking up random sets, and I came up with one; seems a little like novelty, though.

Swampert @ Choice Specs
Quiet
164 HP/92 ATK/252 SPATK
Earth Power
Surf/Hydro Pump
Ice Beam/HP Electric
Focus Punch

 

[Postman]

Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 120 HP/136 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Surf

Is this set "O.K."