Request an Individual Move Set Thread

[Goldenhammerhead]

Machop ?

You might want to check on serebii and see which pre-evolved pokemon can learn Sub-Punch.

yeah...but im not entirely sure....tediursa could do it i think....have you got any other suggestions?

acually a pinsir could run this....anyone think of a lv1 subpunch pisir set?

 

[Dark Azelf]

yeah...but im not entirely sure....tediursa could do it i think....have you got any other suggestions?

acually a pinsir could run this....anyone think of a lv1 subpunch pisir set?

Pinsir@Leftovers.
Adamant Nature
EVS : How do you ev a level 1 pokemon lol ?
Trait:Mold Breaker
- X-Scissor / Earthquake /Stone Edge .
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Bulk Up.

This works sort of like CMKou.

Bulk Up and then set a sub up so thay havent got a hope of breaking you with physical attacks. X-Scissor is for STAB. Earthquake with mold breaker hits gengar and stone edge for flying types.

Alter it how you want to.

 

[Goldenhammerhead]

Pinsir@Leftovers.
Adamant Nature
EVS : How do you ev a level 1 pokemon lol ?
- X-Scissor / Earthquake /Stone Edge .
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Bulk Up.

This works sort of like CMKou.

Bulk Up and then set a sub up so thay havent got a hope of breaking you with physical attacks. X-Scissor is for STAB. Earthquake with mould breaker hits gengar and stone edge for flying types.

Alter it how you want to.

thanks for that. bout the evs...you dont...my legue is just starting here at pc...still looking for leaders. The aim is all you have to run on is pokes,moves skill.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

What would decent movesets for the team I am building be?

I'm putting it together for the battle tower.

Entei@Quick Claw
Adamant
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
Fire Fang
Bite (Does it learn crunch at a higher level?)
Toxic
Extrasensory

Cresselia@Leftovers
??? Nature
252 Sp. Attack, 128 Sp. Defense, 128 Speed, 2 HP
Ice Beam
Charge Beam
Psychic
Calm Mind

Also, what 3 other Pokemon would balance this for a WiFi battle?

 

[Dark Azelf]

What would decent movesets for the team I am building be?

I'm putting it together for the battle tower.

Entei@Quick Claw
Adamant
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Sp. Defense
Fire Fang
Bite (Does it learn crunch at a higher level?)
Toxic
Extrasensory

Cresselia@Leftovers
??? Nature
252 Sp. Attack, 128 Sp. Defense, 128 Speed, 2 HP
Ice Beam
Charge Beam
Psychic
Calm Mind

Also, what 3 other Pokemon would balance this for a WiFi battle?

Ewwww.

Entei@Leftovers
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
~ Will-O-Wisp
~ Fire Fang
~ Stone Edge
~ Toxic / Reflect

Double status is nice aswell to cripple stuff as is setting up team support in Reflect. Stone Edge and Fire Fang are about its best moves.

OR

Entei@Choice Band
6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Fire Fang
~ Stone Edge
~ Iron Tail / Will-O-Wisp
~ Return

Fire Fang and Stone edge are its most reliable moves. Return deals with most other things, Iron Tail is mainly for rock types such as T-tar. Will-o-wisp could be surprising.

OR

Entei@Leftovers
132 HP / 126 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
~ Lava Plume / Fire Blast
~ Calm Mind
~ Substitute / Reflect
~ Hidden Power Ice

this is sp.att entei. First move is for STAB, Calm Mind buffs you up, sub lets you set up calm minds, Reflect is for team support and Hidden power ice is for coverage against dragons and ground types etc.


As for cressy

Cresselia @Leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 108 DEF / 148 SP.DEF
- Charge Beam
- Psychic / Ice Beam
- Reflect
- Rest.


Cressy is defensive and should be used as such. Charge beam improves its abysmal sp.att. Psychic gets STAB and is good for that reason alone, ice Beam takes out dragon and ground types. Reflect is for team support and rest to heal.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

(Thank god I havn't leveled them to 100, now to get that Stone Edge TM)
I almost forgot about my Suicune

Suicune@??? (Nothing)
Calm Nature
Random EVs
-Surf
-Blizzard
-Shadow Ball
-Rain Dance

And how about movesets\EVs\items for:

Umbreon
Froslass
Torterra

 

[Dark Azelf]

(Thank god I havn't leveled them to 100, now to get that Stone Edge TM)
I almost forgot about my Suicune

Suicune@??? (Nothing)
Calm Nature
Random EVs
-Surf
-Blizzard
-Shadow Ball
-Rain Dance

And how about movesets\EVs\items for:

Umbreon
Froslass
Torterra

Suicune@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Bold Nature
- Surf
- Roar /Ice Beam / Hidden power Electric
- Rest
- Calm Mind

Calm mind suicune, its a sp.tank.

Surf for STAB.

Roar to stop stat uppers, shuffle spikes etc. Ice Beam for dragons, Grass and ground types etc.

Rest to heal

Calm mind to buff you up.



Umbreon@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 in whichever defense you want it to take hits on / 6 in the opposite defense
Careful / Impish nature
- Payback
- Curse
- Wish
- Baton pass / Taunt / Protect

Payback for STAB.

Curse to buff you up.

Wish to heal.

Baton pass to pass those curses. Taunt to stop phazers and protect to activate wish.

Frosslass@Leftovers
Timid Nature
252 SPEED / 252 SP.ATT / 6 HP
~ Thunder Wave / Destiny Bond
~ Confuse Ray / Spikes / Shadow Ball
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt

Thunderwave for team support , Destiny bond for a cheap kill.

Confuse ray for well, confusion. Spikes for team support again. Shadow Ball gets STAB.

ice Beam for STAB and Thunderbolt for coverage.


Torterra i dont really know much about.

 

[Saint of Swords]

Ok I had planned this moveset for my charizard:
-Focus Blast
-Air Slash
-Dragon Pulse
-flamethrower

But I got my hands on a charmander awhile ago with these egg moves:
* dragon rage
*dragon dance
*dragon rush.

Should I keep any of these moves for some reason?

Im also looking for a good Gallade (adamant) moveset.

 

[CrasH]

Whats a good wall for pokemonfirered, I'm restarting for Tm's and such, I don't see anything thing good to choice from.

 

[Goldenhammerhead]

Whats a good wall for pokemonfirered, I'm restarting for Tm's and such, I don't see anything thing good to choice from.

blissey, snorlax cough cough!!!

 

[PhoenixFlare]

Whats a good wall for pokemonfirered, I'm restarting for Tm's and such, I don't see anything thing good to choice from.

For in-game you don't need one just all sweepers but for third gen pokemon you can get in FR here:
Blastoise, Steelix, Golem, Muk, Weezing, Hypno, Magneton, Kangaskhan (good luck catching it), Rhydon.
Just a few of them.

 

[ThePlaya]

Can anyone help me with a Kanghaskan move-set, nature, and EV spread??
I've been wanting to ev train one for a while now but can't start because i don't know how to start.
All help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

 

[Dark Azelf]

Well for those of you who dont know. Deoxys [E] Speed Form has been unbanned. A couple of threads on Smogon saying its allowed now in tournaments and on shoddy battle etc and has moved tier to OU, yes OU. Shiny Umbreon commented in Ooka's tier list about one appearing on shoddy in a standard match.

Before you go omfg

Have a look



Its Base stats

HP - 50

ATT - 95

DEF - 90

SP.ATT - 95

SP.DEF- 90

Speed - 180

Its base stats are nice, but not ZOMFG UBERZORZ !!!! (apart from speed :p) its HP sucks however and the rest fail to reach base 100, but Jirachis, Celebi's etc do and yet they are OU. Only its speed is insane.

Compare these base stats to T-tar, Salamence, heatran, Cresselia, Metagross etc, trust me its not impressive compared to those. Its movepool is insane however, but so is Tyranitars really.

Ive always thought to myself "Surely its stats are too low for ubers ?" and thats probably what refelcts it being moved down to OU.

I was wanting to see what this guy could really do.

I was thinking of making it an "Anti lead" pokemon or "support pokemon"


Deoxys@Life Orb
Naive Nature
104 Atk / 252 SpA / 152 Spe
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Superpower / Shadow Ball / Grass Knot
- Psychic

Yeah this looks nice. Takes out all the common leads, Gyarados, Slamence, T-tar, Hippowdon, Gengar etc. The only thing that may wall this is Cressy and dusknoir, but they take a beating from shadow ball. its faster than weavile as well as Jolteon and aerodactyl.


Deoxys@Leftovers
Timid Nature
104 HP / 252 Sp.A / 152 Speed
~ Ice Beam / Thunderbolt / Psychic
~ Stealth Rock / Spikes
~ Knock Off /Thunderbolt / Psychic
~ Recover / Taunt

It even has an insane support movepool.


What do you think ?


Id also be interested of what you think about this thing being moved to OU..

 

[luke]

Yep, I participated in a tournament on Shoddy that was a test-run to see if Deoxys-E was suitable in OU. And from the data they collected, they did determine it was best run in OU, a top-tier OU like Tyranitar, Blissey, and Infernape. It's distribution of stats really let's it down. I personally like the Sweeper set Azelf. Difficult to get much support out of it.

 

[sims796]

What would it need Timid for? To me, that's like a Calm Blissey. Overkill. What is going to outspeed it, Ninjask?

 

[Dark Azelf]

What would it need Timid for? To me, that's like a Calm Blissey. Overkill. What is going to outspeed it, Ninjask?

So you dont need so many speed EVS and so they can be distributed elsewhere, allowing it to sweep.

Calm Blissey in what is should be Ubers though (to deal with specs mewtwo and kyogre and stuff), but in OU yeah its overkill.




Im not really sure what a surefire counter would be for it, i mean you could revenge kill it with a Choice Scarf Ninjask with X-Scissor, Choice Scarf Weavile, Choice Scarf Aerodactyl with Night Slash and Crunch respectively (God how stupid does that sound, pokemon in the top 25 speed of all pokemon need a scarf to outspeed this thing =/). Its movepool is stupid though so a counter is hard to find.

Cressy or dusknoir still look the best to me, only if its not packing shadow ball.

Loquacity, you said you participated in that shoddy tourney to see if deoxys was compatible with OU right ? Was there a /the/ counter for it ?

I cant wait to use that in a rmt threat "You team is Deoxys [E] weak" lol

 

[luke]

Blissey was a tough counter is Deoxys was used Special-based. You ignored it's Physical Movepool, which isn't as deep, but is still effective. I like a Mixed Deoxys-E:

Deoxys-E @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EV Spread: 192 Atk/158 SAtk/160 Spd
Naive Nature (Spd +, SDef -)

Psycho Boost
Zen Headbutt
Extremespeed / Rock Slide
Thunderbolt

Those EVs allow it to outrun Choice Scarf Gengar, which isn't that common. So EVs can be syphoned from Speed and put into its Attack and Special Attack. Adjust based on your biggest threats.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Blissey was a tough counter is Deoxys was used Special-based. You ignored it's Physical Movepool, which isn't as deep, but is still effective. I like a Mixed Deoxys-E:

Deoxys-E @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EV Spread: 192 Atk/158 SAtk/160 Spd
Naive Nature (Spd +, SDef -)

Psycho Boost
Zen Headbutt
Extremespeed / Rock Slide
Thunderbolt

Those EVs allow it to outrun Choice Scarf Gengar, which isn't that common. So EVs can be syphoned from Speed and put into its Attack and Special Attack. Adjust based on your biggest threats.

Wow, now that set looks nice. How could i overlook its physical movepool :O. Ill run 160 speed evs, as Scarf gengar is a beast.

Ive had a look and Metagross and Jirachi look good as counters aswell.

Anyways It seems i have a bit of soft re-setting to do, good job i saved the ticket on my emerald hahaha, time to dominate the metagame =p.

Ill guarantee i will get one at least one disconnection on wifi by a person who claims im using an "Uber" lol

 

[sims796]

So, it's biggest flaw is the fact that is doesn't hit all too hard? I mean, 95-90 for offense doesn't seem too scary, despite his movepool.

 

[Dark Azelf]

So, it's biggest flaw is the fact that is doesn't hit all too hard? I mean, 95-90 for offense doesn't seem too scary, despite his movepool.

Its offenses are ok, above average, but nothing special.

Its sucky hp lets it down aswell, base 50 isnt good at all.


It looks awesome though, i really want to try it out.