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RMT, please?

Eos Aduro

The Kid with the Bullet Soul
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    Ok, so here is my team that I want rated.

    Tyranitar-Leftovers
    Quiet-252 HP, 184 Special Attack, 72 Speed (Im SURE I messed those up)
    Dark Pulse
    Focus Punch
    Ice Beam
    Substitute

    Its the Boah! BEST LEAD EVER!!!!

    Heatran-Choice Scarf
    Modest-252 HP, 252 speed, 4 HP (Archer your EVs are wrong, 116 speed makes it have a top speed with scarf of 282)
    Fire Blast
    Dragon Pulse
    HP Ice
    Earth Power

    Special Sweeper, Im not sure on this guy...

    Weavile-Choice Band/Expert Belt/Life Orb/I dunno
    Jolly-252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Ice Punch
    Brick Break
    Night Slash
    Pursuit/Ice Shard/Swords Dance/Fake Out

    Physical Sweeper, yeah whatever.

    Grumpig-LEftovers
    Calm-252 HP, 52 Def, 200 SpDef
    Thunder Wave
    Charge Beam
    Psychic
    Rest

    Im trying him out, he helps with the fighting weak a bit.

    Gliscor-Leftovers
    Impiish-252 HP, 184 Defense, 72 Attack
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Roost
    Stealth Rock

    Physical Wall, ebenfits from Tyranitar very well

    Vaporeon-Leftovers
    Calm-252 HP, 164 SpDef, 92 Def
    Substitute
    Baton Pass
    Wish
    Surf

    Sub and Wish passing, very helpful.

    Well any suggestions would be appreciated.
     
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    Outlawed

    Think you can beat me?
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    Ok, so here is my team that I want rated.

    Tyranitar-Leftovers
    Jolly-252 Spd/ 252 Atk/ 4 hp
    Crunch
    Stone Edge
    Stealth Rock
    Filler

    Its the Boah! BEST LEAD EVER!!!!
    Not realy.... Aerodactyl for me.

    Heatran-Choice Scarf
    Modest- EVs Please???
    Flamethrower
    Dragon Pulse
    Dark Pulse
    Earth Power
    Not Expert on this so i'll leave it alone

    Special Sweeper, Im not sure on this guy...

    Weavile-Choice Band
    Jolly-252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Ice Punch
    Brick Break
    Night Slash
    Pursuit/Ice Shard

    There is a special spread for speed that they run on this, but I like speed over kill :p I don't think more HP will help it. Also, Pursuit is for Zam and Gengar who think they can switch out but die. and pleashe Jolly.

    Blissey-Leftovers
    Bold-252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpDef (Yes, I use these EVs and I like'em)
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Toxic/Substitute
    Teh EV's are a bit wrong, it needs more sp.def just a bit more lol

    Duh :P

    Gliscor-Leftovers
    Impiish-252 HP, 184 Defense, 72 Attack
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Roost
    Stealth Rock
    Not expert on this

    Physical Wall, ebenfits from Tyranitar very well

    Vaporeon-Leftovers
    Calm-252 HP, 164 SpDef, 92 Def
    Substitute
    Baton Pass
    Wish
    Surf

    Sub and Wish passing, very helpful.
    Yes.

    Well any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Fixes in quote.
    Also watch out from Fighters, they can pretty much hurt you. specially the ones with Thunder Punch.
     

    Outlawed

    Think you can beat me?
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    Dude look at your moveset, that isnt a mixed sweeper. That is a special sweeper, you are just throwing it's attack away. It could work as a nice surpurse factor but your enemy should know soon and start sending out counters.
     

    Anti

    return of the king
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    Just pointing out Aerodactyl is a failure of a lead simply due to the fact that one of the most common leads today, Hippowdon, just sets up the rocks on you. also cool people who run Bulky Water leads do the same :(

    Also gliscor walls fighters pretty bad. That, dusknoir, and Weezing are great at walling fighters and I don't see them as a problem as long as Gliscor stays healthy, which is easy to pull off with roost.

    Real problem here is Weavile IMO, only Vaporeon is a really safe switch and Night slash will hurt a lot coming from STBa and a CB.

    Also SR on Tar is no. Its WAY better at attacking and gliscor already SRs.

    also Adamant Weavile is >:0

    Actually looking back at the fighters thing, special fighters seem to be the real problem here. I'm looking at you Lucario. Seriously nothing can even hope of switching into SpecsLuke's Aura Sphere.

    Well Outlawed, I agree with you more than I usually agree with other members :P

    But seriously that fighting hole could be petrifying, especially if anything on the other team blows up on Gliscor to open up what would be a Heracross massacre.
     

    Outlawed

    Think you can beat me?
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    I run Dactyl with Taunt actually.
    Bulky waters are a problem. However, that is not an issue. I run Aerodactyl as an SR setter. with taunt I stop the enemy from SRing me. and then I safely live on.
    Also, if I use traunt on first turn, will they still be able to set something?? like if they already used SR. and does it stay for the rest of the game or does it disappear on a switch?

    I just noticed something intresting.
    Infernape
    Grass Knot
    Flamethrower
    Stealth Rock
    Taunt

    Naive.
    this deals with anything other than Dactyl and Gyara :p
     

    Loto

    Fear Nuckle!
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    SR stays for the rest of the came unless you rapid spin it away or taunt BEFORE they use it. Once it's set tho you need a spinner. Or deal with the switch damage. ;p

    Thats not a good infernape set. It's not meant to taunt considering infernape is so fragile >_>
     

    Outlawed

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    So if taunt is used on the first turn by me and SR was picked as move for my enemy, does the taunt work? or would SR work the Taunt takes effect?
     
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    why toxic for bliss? change to ice beam/thunder wave but i prefer ice beam.
     
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    Ok, so here is my team that I want rated.

    Tyranitar-Leftovers
    Quiet-252 HP, 184 Special Attack, 72 Speed (Im SURE I messed those up) You gave 4 SAtks to Spd for the Standard, but I use the spread you listed.
    Dark Pulse
    Focus Punch
    Ice Beam/Flamethrower (Focus Punch hit almost anything that is a problem, except GyroZong. Bad news.
    Substitute

    Its the Boah! BEST LEAD EVER!!!! Fine.

    Heatran-Choice Scarf
    Modest- EVs Please??? 252 SAtk / 116 Spd / 140 HP
    Flamethrower/Overheat
    Dragon Pulse
    Dark Pulse
    Earth Power

    Special Sweeper, Im not sure on this guy... Those EVs reach 224(336 Scarfed) Spd, outdoing jolly Garchomp.

    Weavile-Life Orb
    JOLLYJOLLYJOLLY-252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Ice Punch
    Brick Break
    Night Slash
    Swords Dance

    Physical Sweeper, yeah whatever.

    Blissey-Leftovers
    Bold-252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpDef (Yes, I use these EVs and I like'em)
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Toxic

    Duh :P Toxic is nice and I prefer slightly more SDef, just to screw up damage calcs.

    Gliscor-Leftovers
    Impiish-252 HP, 184 Defense, 72 Attack
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Roost
    Stealth Rock

    Physical Wall, benefits from Tyranitar very well Fits nicely.

    Vaporeon-Leftovers
    Calm-252 HP, 164 SpDef, 92 Def
    Substitute
    Baton Pass
    Wish
    Surf

    Sub and Wish passing, very helpful. (Specially bulky Vaporeons are nice.)

    Well any suggestions would be appreciated.

    EDIT IN BOLD
    Fits together alright, but you need a Ghost. You have 4 Fighting weaknesses (2 are 4x) and possibly a spinner, but its not as if you have a major SR weak, but along with Sandstream, It could really rack up the damage.
     

    Angelic Diablo

    Scyther >> You
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    So if taunt is used on the first turn by me and SR was picked as move for my enemy, does the taunt work? or would SR work the Taunt takes effect?

    Depends who is faster, if you are, then Taunt prevents them from using SR. If they are faster then there will be floating stones around your team and then they will be Taunted.
     

    Jimmyray

    Bish Bash Bosh
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    I've learned the hard way NEVER to use Swords Dance on a Weavile without focus sash. Aerial Ace or Ice Shard. As for your TTar, I hate mixed ones, they PHAIL for me. Explosion on Heatran perhaps? And give Blissey TWave over Toxic!
     

    Ársa

    k.
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    Ok, so here is my team that I want rated.

    Tyranitar-Leftovers
    Quiet-252 HP, 188 Special Attack, 68 Speed
    Dark Pulse
    Focus Punch
    Ice Beam
    Substitute

    Ok, if you say so.

    Heatran-Choice Scarf
    Modest- EVs 252 Sp. Atk, 204 Spd, 52 HP
    Fire Blast
    Dragon Pulse/HP [ICE]
    Dark Pulse/Explosion
    Earth Power

    Fire Blast over Flamethrower please, HP Ice if you can get it, and Explosion hits Bliss for some reliable damage. Dark Pulse may be your option though.

    Weavile-Choice Band
    Jolly-252 Attack, 220 Speed, 32 HP
    Ice Punch
    Brick Break
    Night Slash
    Ice Shard

    Band does more, I don't much like SD Weavile, you'll just be drawing in Skarm or a Scarf user. Ice Shard OHKO's Garchomp (All Dragons) etc. You know the drill. Band > SD. Jolly please.

    Blissey-Leftovers
    Bold-252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpDef (Yes, I use these EVs and I like'em)
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss
    Aromatherapy
    Ice Beam/Thunderbolt

    Ice Beam or Thunderbolt please. Toxic isn't the best, and you're walled completely by Ghosts, especially Gengar who you're meant to be walling.

    Gliscor-Leftovers
    Impiish-252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Roost
    Stealth Rock

    May I ask why so much attack?

    Vaporeon-Leftovers
    Bold-252 HP, 164 SpDef, 92 Def ???
    Substitute/Ice Beam
    Baton Pass
    Wish/Ice Beam
    Surf

    Bold please, dunno about the EV's, I run Ice Beam over Wish on mine, so I don't have the EV spread you want I think...

    Well any suggestions would be appreciated.

    After all that is said and done, CB or SD Weavile can rampage your team if the opponent runs 252 Spd. EV's. Perhaps try Weezing over Gliscor for your Physical Wall, it also walls Ground attacks on Heatran and takes CB/CS Heracross to the cleaners.

    Weezing@Black Sludge
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

    Fire Blast
    Thunderbolt
    Haze/WoW
    Pain Split

    Regards,

    ~T_S
     

    Eos Aduro

    The Kid with the Bullet Soul
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    Ok, people, Thats TYRANIBOAH!!! And its AWESOME! You've probably not ever seen it used is all, it actually is WAY better than physical. Well the fighting weak is probably best solved with removing Weavile, and want Gliscor to stay since he benefits from Boah. Hmmm, Weavile could be replaced for maybe Heracross, he stops fighting attacks well.
     

    Outlawed

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    yeah it's Tyranitar Boah. but you are using it wrong.
    Special T-Tar really can't do anything and with quiet nature you are asking for weavile to come down there and do baaaad things to you since focus blast keeps on mising.
     

    luke

    Master of the Elements
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    No, he's using it right. That's the standard wall breaker. Tyranitar can use Special Attack surprisingly well.
     

    Outlawed

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    I think special Tar is a waste of space. Maybe 1 special attack to surpirse yes, but throwing away it's atk to ME is meh.
    personal opinion.
     

    Dark Azelf

    ☽𖤐☾𓃶𐕣
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    I think special Tar is a waste of space. Maybe 1 special attack to surpirse yes, but throwing away it's atk to ME is meh.
    personal opinion.

    Its not special, its mixed.


    Focus Punch kills blissey, Snorlax etc.

    It makes 101 HP Subs, which cannot be broken by a single seismic toss.

    Thunderbolt beats Gyarados, Skarmory, Starmie, Suicune etc OR in his case Ice Beam beats bulky ground types, 2hkoing Donphan, Hippowdon, OHKoing Garchomp, Gliscor etc.

    Dark pulse beats Dusknoir, Cresselia, Celebi, Uxie, etc.


    Your not throwing away its attack, your evening them out so it can mix sweep/tank.

    Use it before you knock it plesh =)

    Special T-Tar really can't do anything and with quiet nature you are asking for weavile to come down there and do baaaad things to you since focus blast keeps on mising


    Edit : Weavile gets raped if you have a sub up btw. Hence Focus Punch
     

    Anti

    return of the king
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    Whoever said Twave on Blissey, please notice nothing on this team really benefits from para support...

    BTW Boah is really good in the right hands. Don't just assume it sucks. Actually it's my favorite Tyranitar set.

    Also Jimmyray, would it really be a bright idea to use SD Weavile with a focus sash when Tyranitar is the lead of this team?

    Also people seriously underestimate toxic Blissey. Some things will want to outstall it and you can spam bulky grounds with a status they won't like so much. You can disable Gyarados and Garchomp switching in as well.

    IMO Thunder Wave is meh on blissey since Toxic will help it out way more.
     

    Eos Aduro

    The Kid with the Bullet Soul
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    Thank you Anti, and Im thinking of switching Gengar in for Heatran to mmake up for the fighting weak, and ideas?
     
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