"ROAR" going first??

[luckyCHARMS]

ok so yeah i wus battling this guy from serebii nd i had my claydol up against his skarmory .. he previously set out SR from an earlier turn so i use rapid spid but to my surprise skarm went first with a roar?! so i just went along with it knowing that its a second turn move no matter the speed. my weavile wus forced out. i try ice punching it but yet again roar went first?! my swampert wus forced out so i try switching out to claydol but he roars yet again?! before my switch?! am i going mad or am i going madd?!?! is there even such a cheat for that or is there some fine print rule about roar that i dont kno about?? help me out ppl

 

[scwizard]

The bulbapedia article doesn't say anything about it always going second:
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Roar

Also I'm pretty sure I've seen it go first before.

 

[luckyCHARMS]

it doesnt say anything about it being a second turn move anywhere but it just is .. im guessing youve never seen roar used eh?

 

[Zet]

switching usually goes first =|

 

[Lumine]

As the dude above said, question answered gg people

 

[sims796]

Obviously, you guys NEVER seen Roar. ROAR & WHIRLWIND ALWAYS GOES LAST. DESPITE SPEED.

The guy obviously cheated. There's a reason Roar & Whirlwind goes last-to prevent that very situation. That Skarmory was invincible. It could never be touched, since it'll always go first & force a switch.

 

[kohei]

Obviously, you guys NEVER seen Roar. ROAR & WHIRLWIND ALWAYS GOES LAST. DESPITE SPEED.

The guy obviously cheated. There's a reason Roar & Whirlwind goes last-to prevent that very situation. That Skarmory was invincible. It could never be touched, since it'll always go first & force a switch.

Truth.

However, I'm interested in how the guy actually managed to cheat the "cast speed" of Roar.

 

[Angelic Diablo]

Trick Room doesn't effect Speed priorities right?

(Only suggesting it because CHARMS ever so loves Trick Room)

For the record, both Whirlwind and Roar have a speed priority at 250

 

[Nacon]

yea... which brings to question.... was this fight in trick room?

 

[sims796]

I think it goes last even in a Trick Room team.

Only Baton Pass & U-Turn involes speed.

 

[scwizard]

Obviously, you guys NEVER seen Roar. ROAR & WHIRLWIND ALWAYS GOES LAST. DESPITE SPEED.

That's what I thought, but what he was saying confused me. I wouldn't think it would be possible to hack stuff like that.

 

[Phatkav]

He cheated. Simple

Though I wonder how he was able to hack the game and make Roar always goes first. PokeSav doesn't do it and I don't believe there is an AR code that does it.

This guy is good hacker.

 

[Shiny Umbreon]

Questions about battling go in the Strategies & Movesets forum.

-MOVED-

 

[Shiraishi]

I believe you mean -MOVED- Shiny, :x I've heard about magical instances in which the laws of speed are defied(for one turn w/o hax item). maybe thats what happened..?

 

[Azonic]

Don't you mean Moved? Shiny Umbreon?

The battler obviously cheated. Roar / Whirlwind always go last

 

[scwizard]

It says on marriland that it's priority is -5.

 

[Kreaps]

The only time Roar/Whirlwind would go second if it's between two Pokemon who both used Roar/Whirlwind, then the faster of the two Pokemon goes first. It happened to me once and that caught me by surprise.

 

[luckyCHARMS]

nd to answer if trickroom were up .. it wus not. even if it were up .. roar/whirlwind still goes last .. mann i got crazy cheated! .. but im wondering how the dude did it .. i didnt think i wus possible to hack in such a way .. crazy hacking skills i guess

 

[Dark Azelf]

By any chance he didnt use Steep Talk with Skarmory did he , because that bypasses it going last.