Chit-Chat: ROM Hacking Daily Chit Chat

[machomuu]

DS emulation isn't that good

Heh, that's funny, Satoshi.

 

[Phazon Elemental]

I haven't attempted to emulate a DS game in a while, but apparently DS emulation is getting better compared to what I remember (i.e. could really only just be called functional). Someone I know LP'ed Lock's Quest using a DS emulator with only a minimum of bugginess.

I think I'm going to stick to futzing around with third gen, for the time being. (I still need to look into a few things, though.)

 

[Shadowraze]

I haven't attempted to emulate a DS game in a while, but apparently DS emulation is getting better compared to what I remember (i.e. could really only just be called functional). Someone I know LP'ed Lock's Quest using a DS emulator with only a minimum of bugginess.

I think I'm going to stick to futzing around with third gen, for the time being. (I still need to look into a few things, though.)

I can play DS games pretty smooth now unlike last year DS Emulation has come a long way I'd say.

 

[machomuu]

It's not a new thing, really. DS emulation's been capable for at least 5 years. I remember previewing Platinum prior to its release in English and it working perfectly, as well as spending HOURS in the early Rune Factory games (1 and 2 specifically).

So it's not a matter of emulation getting better, because it's been great for years. Heck, I'd say that emulation isn't apart of the problem at all.

 

[Phazon Elemental]

To be fair, I haven't attempted to use a DS emulator in several years.

 

[Satoshi Ookami]

I don't understand what you mean by profitable.

In terms of fans playing the hack.

 

[Logan]

In terms of fans playing the hack.

It shouldn't matter about how many people play the hack. If you're ROM Hacking for popularity then you should re-assess your priorities imo.

 

[Satoshi Ookami]

It shouldn't matter about how many people play the hack. If you're ROM Hacking for popularity then you should re-assess your priorities imo.

If you hack for yourself how can you evaluate the quality?

 

[Logan]

If you hack for yourself how can you evaluate the quality?

I didn't say it was hacking for yourself. Hacking is for fun and should remain that way, quality feedback from other people is vital. What I said was you shouldn't hack for popularity.

 

[Satoshi Ookami]

I didn't say it was hacking for yourself. Hacking is for fun and should remain that way, quality feedback from other people is vital. What I said was you shouldn't hack for popularity.

Where did I say anything about popularity?
Fans was just a different way to describe "people who play the hack" just because it was shorter.

 

[Logan]

Where did I say anything about popularity?
Fans was just a different way to describe "people who play the hack" just because it was shorter.

Saying profitablity and fans is talking about popularity though.

 

[Renegade]

Okay, enough of the popularity stuff, guys...

I have a question that I thought would be decent discussion. Recently, a lot of hacks have shown numerous amounts of animated tiles (grass, trees, underwater movement, other shrubbery, etc). Does anyone else think all of this animation is a bit too much and can end up decreasing the visual appeal in a hack or do the animations, no matter how many, only create positive emotions on the player?

I believe there can really only be so much going on on the screen at a time, or else things just get too... dizzy? movementy? You get the idea.

 

[machomuu]

Well, really, Pokemon is pretty simplistic when it comes to animation. If you play other prominent RPGs, you'll see that animation is pretty commonplace, even for sprites (in fact, I actually consider the lack of animation on sprites something of a disappointment, but it's corrected in Gen5, to some extent).

In terms of tiles, 3rd gen is pretty static, and I think that animation makes the world feel more alive.

 

[Renegade]

Well, really, Pokemon is pretty simplistic when it comes to animation. If you play other prominent RPGs, you'll see that animation is pretty commonplace, even for sprites (in fact, I actually consider the lack of animation on sprites something of a disappointment, but it's corrected in Gen5, to some extent).

What do you mean by 5th gen corrected it? I don't remember any animation in the sprites in Unova, so a specific example would be nice. :)

In terms of tiles, 3rd gen is pretty static, and I think that animation makes the world feel more alive.

I agree with this.

 

[machomuu]

What do you mean by 5th gen corrected it? I don't remember any animation in the sprites in Unova, so a specific example would be nice. :)

In general. While there wasn't too as much animation as I would have liked, there are many instances throughout the story that you can see characters move in ways where, if it had been any of the previous games, they just would have used the movement animation. I shouldn't say "corrected" specifically, but there is more animation in that one than in previous generations, IIRC. Not to say they still aren't static. There are no emotion-based animations and non-standard ones are still pretty difficult to come by.

 

[Phazon Elemental]

Yeah, for sure, BW and B2W2 were just generally a bit more lively than the near-static third generation, but they were also operating on a more powerful system. That said, of course, the GBA is far from incapable and if you can make your animations look good -- and especially look good together -- go for it.

 

[Danny0317]

What do you guys think about the type effectiveness thing being changed in hacks? Like making water weak to posion and stuff like that? Do you like that or does it ruin it for you, or are you indifferent to it?

 

[Spherical Ice]

I tend not to like it unless it's just updating the mechanics to what they are in Gen 6 (i.e. steel not resisting dark, steel not resisting ghost, etc.). If there's a thematic reason it's okay, but unless I'm beaten over the head with the fact that it's changed in-game I'll likely forget and just get annoyed, which is really just unideal.

 

[Mana1]

I think for type advantages to change there would have to be a really significant reason ><. Most of the current ones make perfect sense anyway.

I suppose, if you're adding a new type, you might have to tweak other types advantages for balance - but otherwise I prefer to leave it alone.

 

[Phazon Elemental]

Personally, I would rather they stuck to an existing type chart. Changing from that will just throw me off and make me not like the game.