I don't think you should let it go . you're right it is not fair that your ho-oh doesn't count . yes you warped to get there but it's not like you had the tickets to go get there . in the same way mew is not accessable those pokemon should count also . YES you can get ho-oh thru col but look what you have to do capture every shadow pokemon then purify every shadow pokemon then beat the out game battle tower with your ingame team JUST TO FRAGGIN GET HO-OH and you cant even sr for it so after a week or two of hard work you end up just haing to repeat the process . and lugia while the odds arent so against you like lugia is pretty much the type of deal save before you fight the guy that has lugia , capture lugia , purify lugia PAIN IN THE ARSENAL .
Ho-oh is somewhat psychotic, but possible. Kim got a shiny Latios in Emerald without resetting for it, so it's possible that Ho-oh could be gotten the same way. Such a Ho-oh would be extremely rare, indeed, and permitting teleportation to get one on FR/LG/Em only serves to devalue such a rare find.
Lugia is reasonable. If your Purification Chamber's already set up, you need only catch the Lugia, clobber Greevil, stick the thing in the chamber and purify, and see if it's red. Easier than Jirachi, which people have done.
its not fair at all that you allow use of a cheat device to get to mew when there are people who don't have access to the tickets or col / xd to get lugia and ho-oh .
Permitting them is not fair to the people who don't have access to AR.
if anything you should go on ebay and buy yourself the old seachart because thts a legitmate way of getting mew without cheating .
There is no "old sea map" that could be gotten on eBay. The only OSM giveaway was for the Japanese Movie 9 promotion, and it's over.
just because you want mew doesn't mean you should change the rules to benifit you and exclude other peoples catchs . also making it ok to warp becuase there is no other way to ge tto deoxys and mew than your only one step away from saying its ok to hack in celebi long as you don't put the shiny code and hunt it because nintendo didnt give me an event that was close by that i could go to .
Rule #1: The outcome must *exactly* match that of a Nintendo promotion, so Celebi is still completely off the map unless the JAA GBA program they were using is leaked.
you need to either A stick by the rules or B bend them so everyone can benifit . if hacking does'nt count at all then fine shinyhunters ho-oh doesnt count . but if you're going to make eceptions then his should be allowed .
I've already explained to my satisfaction why this isn't the case.
YES Metal Mario makes the cards but it's not his decision what goes on the cards if he is making the cards for the club .
Which is exactly why I came to a consensus with Ryan/Yami/LDD as to what would be allowed on the cards.
same way he and a few others (even tho most of you liked it ) did'nt want exo making an official site unless the club wanted it (btw he was willing to work with teh club and give co-owners access but some people >.> attacked him and he just ended up leaving )
No one attacked him. We said there's already a site underway, but he's free to contribute to it. If I *did* make his site official, you'd be attacking me right now for snubbing Haunter Master.
MM can not say what is allowed on the CLUB card wether he likes it or not .
But the club can. And did.
If he doesnt agree and doesn't want someones catch on their card then he can either suck it up and do his job as card maker for the club and make it ,
The club has spoken. If you don't like what we'll allow on the cards,
YOU can suck it up or leave.
QUIT and make cards for noone , or finaly say he is 100% owner of the club and that it's a dictatorship and its his rules and then make cards for who he wants how he wants .
It is a dictatorship, or more of an oligarchy. If the co-owners say something, it goes. Sorry, but that's the
only way a club like this can hold together. There's no way to assemble a fair democratic process on the internet, and with no rules, the club would quickly disintegrate.
yes I know in the absense of owners co-owners become temp owners and have full rule changing authority . BUT MM is but one co-owner . while I sense it does not matter in the long run (Because LDD and Yami will eventualy agree anyways THo I should hope yami would have a diffrence of opinion with his constant suspicion of people and hackers ) he still cannot make those rules final . YES I FRAGGING KNOW MM YOU SAID YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR WHAT THEY SAY IM JUST POINTING IT OUT .
Thank you for having the intelligence to refute your own argument.
as for that club crap about exo leaving MM and not continuing working on it . Aaryn left and never updated the damn list , Skinny Green Man didnt update the dex , Pazzkat is gone , you were gone and no cards were being made , so wtf are you smoking ? they left and come back for a week or two every six months (maybe longer for one of the listed XP ) . ok fine people have real life issues woot thats great but I already gave a speach about passing on ownership when you can't handle things . On that note , inactiness is perfect reason for co-owners to pass on ownership , not posting every week is one thing not posting every month is another . just becuase the coowners don't want to loss their position in the hierarchy of the club doesn't mean they shouldn't do what best for the club . GRANTED you can't just give away co-ownership to anyone but if you're not going to be around either A find sumone wh you can give it too or B give tempship to someone .
Inactivity's a good reason to elect new owners, but there's no logic in forefitting your privileges. You've demonstrated that you can handle the job, so why would absence change anything? For this same reason, Ryan shouldn't give up the ownership.
I also like how MM and FuFu are both telling me and SH to make our own cards. well now I could , it would be tedious at first but if I really wanted to make my own SHC card I could. what would happen if I did ? first off MM would throw a hissy fit because its his model and make and its his card (noone remembers that nova made her own custome card and got reamed for it? ) and yes I did not forget that you gave them the templates to make cards and then once again dissapeared
I said you can make your own club
art. That doesn't mean an exact rip-off of my card design, it means something original. Also, an exact rip-off, aside from being art theft, leads to much confusion as to what your standing in terms of club-accepted shinies is.
Second of all I'm not the card maker for the group thats not my job and so if I did make a card I would make one for me and say screw the lot of you I didnt sign up to make you all cards (unlike MM who while yes has volunteered to make the cards still is apointed card maker for the group and has no choice just check afore mentioned list ofMM options ).
That's just it. I'm doing the club a service with these cards. Before Shuko, Ryan, and eventually myself, came up with the idea to make them, we had nothing. We could always go back to having nothing if that's what you'd prefer.
Third of all I would put every last shiny zigzagoon( and one linoone XP) I have down from the berry fix and since thats just a shiny clutch to get more stars I would get side comments AGAIN ( which btw even without my promotional clutch I still have more shiny pokemon then the lot of you and got a shiny treecko to boot XP and if/when I ask for another SHC card I should hope you include my cltuch shiny pkmn )
The cert shiny rule is there for a reason. Your Zig collection could moreso be thought of as "collateral damage." (Before the advent of D/P and the new rules, LDD and you
did have all your Ziggies on your cards.) The rule was instated as a pre-emptive measure against possible future games that give out free shinies, such as the G/S/C Red Gyarados. A player could simply keep restarting their game to build a collection of them, much like people already do with legendaries. Everyone would end up with a card containing dozens of RGs or whatever, which is clearly against the spirit of the club and of shiny hunting. Since a shiny is still a shiny, I allow for one to appear, but even this is a favour.
on that note of my "clutch" the whole trading issue needs to be better fixed mroe then warping . if you are going to alow traded shiny pokemon you have no choice but to allow all trades even from this gen becuase unless someone fess' up to them being clones anyone and everyone cna say they got form someone they trust . while my personal feelings doesnt liek that because of gts and cloning what other choice do you have ? either you say trades do or don't count otherwise you will just end up alienating more members like you did with shinyhunters ho-oh .
There's nothing inherently wrong with trading. Nintendo put it into the games. Claiming a clone to be authentic constitutes lying, and it's no different than any other kind of lying. I already stated that Pal Parked GTS shinies should be treated as clones unless otherwise proven, so it's really in the court of members to follow this rule. If they don't, how is it any different than plain old fashioned lying.
Shido, that post was rude, and constituted more of a personal attack than anything at me taking control of the club.
1-Full respect between members of the club, any insult or misrespect will be payed with expulsion of the club.
That was extremely disrespectful. You have your warning. If you persist, you will be kicked from the club. It's just that simple.
I did a few Beldum resets, but I was doing other stuff in the game and EVing my shiny Abra.
