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The (allmost perfect) Ice team

Darkness_Dreams

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    • Froslass (F) @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Snow Cloak
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
    Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Taunt
    - Spikes
    - Destiny Bond
    - Ice Beam

    Basic set up spikes then destiny bond. taut to deal with status and such like.
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    Articuno @ Leftovers
    Ability: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SAtk
    Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Roost
    - Roar
    - Substitute
    - Ice Beam

    The zapdos for ice types, Personly I love this little guy roar works with SR and spikes. roost to srug off damage from SR ect.
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    Abomasnow (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Snow Warning
    EVs: 252 HP/138 Atk/120 Spd
    Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Leech Seed
    - Substitute
    - Ice Shard
    - Seed Bomb

    Subseeder can be annoying. Please Please Please don't tell me to put him in lead.
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    Hitmontop (M) @ Expert Belt
    Ability: Technician
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Bullet Punch
    - Fake Out
    - Rapid Spin
    - Mach Punch

    Rapid spiner and a GOOD Priority sweeper when needed.
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    Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Fang
    - Waterfall
    - Dragon Dance
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    Mamoswine (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Ability: Snow Cloak
    EVs: 108 HP/252 Atk/80 Def/70 Spd
    Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Stealth Rock
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Fang
    - Superpower

    Heatran wannbie. sets up SR super power to deal with blissey EQ and ice fang for stab.
    the EVS are made to keep him alive while keeping his speed/atk up.
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    StrickeN

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    • Seen Oct 7, 2010
    Honestly, I think you'd be better of getting up some hail.

    it's really helpful, so :P Obamasnow might be worth a thought.
     

    Darkness_Dreams

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    • StrickeN said:
    Honestly, I think you'd be better of getting up some hail.

    it's really helpful, so :P Obamasnow might be worth a thought.
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    aha! but.
    1) Nothing has blizzard 2)hail only helps two of my pokemon, 3)everyone will expect a OBAMA-snow 4) the hail will hit my manta/hintmontop.
     

    DarkTyphlosion157

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    • Everyone expected YacheChomp, and that was so powerful it got moved up to Ubers.

    And Hail helps on its own, four Pokemon being immune to it while your opponent has 2 tops is good enough.

    Onto the individual rates...

    - Lapras is a rather bad DDer to be honest, its speed and attack are kinda low, plus SR weakness and no recovery.

    - Hitmontop isn't going to sweep much. Stone Edge/Rapid Spin/Toxic/Close Combat NOW. Also Impish + Leftovers.

    - There are many better Fire/Fighting resists out there y'know...plus Mantine sucks in OU a bit anyway.

    - Mamoswine? Heatran wannabe? They're two different brands of detergent!

    No Walrein or Tentacruel makes me sad to be honest, plus the overeliance on Rapid Spin...this could use one heck of a remake.
     
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    Matt-O

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    • Darkness_Dreams said:
    aha! but.
    1) Nothing has blizzard 2)hail only helps two of my pokemon, 3)everyone will expect a OBAMA-snow 4) the hail will hit my manta/hintmontop.
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    1. Give them blizzard since in hail it will have more power for the same accuracy.

    2. It also hurts enemies. Life Orbers especially hate it.

    3. As already stated, everyone expected Yachechomp. There are tons of things people expect, that doesn't mean they are ineffective.

    4. Who cares? Mantine has Lefties, he'll be fine. If you take a look at most weather teams, they don't all consist of Pkmn that benefit from the weather. There are tons of people who use T-Tar even though the SS hurts their other Pkmn.

    Please, use Obamasnow. He will help your ice team immensly.
     

    Darkness_Dreams

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    • ugh...=|
    Everyones making this into a standard hail team =(

    okay okay i'll put OMBAMA in =)
    but no walrein/crule bleh at them ¬¬

    @DarkTyphlosion157
    I get the laparas point. however mamorswine is a soild poke, im just taking off speed EV's and making him bluky like heatran ;] works too.
    Gyra > Mantine then xD
    and last point NO just NO at himontop xD tec + mach punch/BP/Fake out + stab +life orbB = sweep ;]
     

    DarkTyphlosion157

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    • When I mentioned Fire/Fighting resist, I meant Tentacreul y'know...though sure, Gyara COULD work...

    Very odd Obamasnow set. Most run Blizzard, y'know, STAB 100% acc 120 power move with great offensive type...

    You absolutely must try Stallrein. IT IS INSANE, I SWEAR. Protect/Sub/Toxic/Surf owns absolutely everything

    Plus, if you are to keep using Priotop, you are Tyranitar weak.
     

    Darkness_Dreams

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    • DarkTyphlosion157 said:
    When I mentioned Fire/Fighting resist, I meant Tentacreul y'know...though sure, Gyara COULD work...

    Very odd Obamasnow set. Most run Blizzard, y'know, STAB 100% acc 120 power move with great offensive type...

    You absolutely must try Stallrein. IT IS INSANE, I SWEAR. Protect/Sub/Toxic/Surf owns absolutely everything

    Plus, if you are to keep using Priotop, you are Tyranitar weak.
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    tenta would help why ? =/ and its the old standard hail team thing again xD

    Sub-seed Obama is not ODD ? O_o in fact its one of the few good sets.

    I have tryed it...articuno is better I assure you xD

    I'll run some clacs on Priotop VS tyranitar...

    Edit:
    Mach Punch to a Max def/hp + Nature T-tar
    Damage: 196 - 231
    Damage: 48.51% - 57.18%
    two hit kill....
     
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    DarkTyphlosion157

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    • No Tyranitars put EVs in Defence. Well, not anything near max.

    It was odd becuase of Seed Bomb and Ice Shard. SubSeed is normal.

    Tentacruel counters all variations of Mixape, provides a secondary Rapid Spinner, absorbs Toxic Spikes which screw Top over and is just plain awesome really

    Plus run some calcs of what damage your Priotop takes against the standard CBTar. Make sure to take SR and Hail into account.

    Also not seeing the point of the bulk on Mamoswine.
     
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