The Annoying HMs thread

[Anto]

There are certain ones that just BUG me

it's like you use it once or twice in the game, but you'd have to have a Pokemon with you that knows it

Flash - used like twice in the entire game, get a flashlight retard!!!
Cut - so useless... he can't fly over the bush or something? or I donno cut it with a knife?!


those would be the two that annoy me the most, what's yours ??

 

[Sacr3d Fire]

I agree with your choice but dive is annoying me because you only have to use it lke 3 times in the game and this HM sucks at all.

 

[Kombat]

I disliked Flash as its so worthless its became a TM. Then Dive came and went. Now we have Rock Climb which will go soon. Laos wasnt Whirlpool a HM in GSC that you only used once to get to Lugia!?!

 

[PunxsatownyPhil]

ROCK SMASH WITH ITS BASE POWER OF 20 is sooooo annoying.

 

[Serene Grace]

Even though they are moves in the anime; HM's are mostly game specific. This means that this thread belongs in General Pokemon Gaming, not here.

 

[Flare Riqueza]

I hate Flash and Defog.

Cut and Rock Smash are ok if I have a Scizor...but he has better options.

Dive? naff. Although 2x damage from Surf doesn't really matter to anything that can use Dive.

Fly? naff. might as well make it 100% accuracy....

Whirlpool? Okish.....needed for Dragon's Den, not just Lugia guys! But overall annoying.

Waterfall? Nice move...but surely Surfers should be able to climb waterfalls anyway?

Personally, I reckon you should just unlock the ability after winning. Say....your pokemon grew a lot from the training in the gym, so now it's strong enough?

 

[PEPITO1O1O]

Flash
Defog
Cut
Rock Smash
Whirlpool
Rock Climb

And sometimes:
Waterfall
Strenght

 

[Timbjerr]

The only really crappy ones are Flash/Defog, which aren't even needed in the overworld if you know what you're doing, and Cut/Rock Smash, which tend to be used less in the overworld as the game goes on.

Fly is a good attack for stallers, and holds it own quite well in power at base 95.
Surf is a very reliable and decently powerful water attack.
Strength is actually quite good as well. It has the same base power as Body Slam, just without the paralysis chance.
Waterfall = physical surf
Rock Climb = see strength

I've actually never found it necessary to use an HM slave beyond the first half of the game. :P

 

[Jack Kentnon]

I hate all of them. Except for Surf, and Strength. Here's why:

Fly is a two trun attack that can miss (but it's alot more convienient than walking everywhere), Flash was a useless accuracy reducing attack that had a chance to hit (but it 'lit up dark caves'), Rocksmash having a base power of 20 (but it removes rocks from your path), Whirlpool: fire spin but with water(but you sometimes used it to get rid of whirlpools), Dive: dig, but with water (Iwill admit, goinng underwater was a highpoint for me), Cut is inaccurate and weak(but you had to use it to get small trees out of your way), and finally De fog (you can use it to get rid of the fog...). Why? Why are they hard to get rid of? Why can't I just use items intead? Couldent there have been a better way to put obsticles in my way? Why De Fog, for the love of all that is good in this world, why Defog?


Rockclimb is okay though.

 

[dooxer]

You know, I just think if they could make rock smash 40 base power, we might have something good for early game...
and make flash actually hit them lol. hard to make them miss if you keep missing.
the only water HM I use often is surf. it's flamethrower/thunderbolt/icebeam for water.

if they could make HMs worthwhile, we wouldn't need HM slaves...

 

[Sydian]

If Rock Climb and Strength were Rock type and/or Fighting type moves, I don't think I'd have that much of a problem with either of them. It's just with HMs on my main team, I feel like they're carrying a heavy weight on their shoulders, and I don't like that feeling. I don't feel as bad with Fly and Surf because they're the most useful HMs and they're decent attacks at that, but sometimes, I'd rather have my water Pokemon have a different STAB move than Surf or Waterfall. Every other HM can rot and burn. I hate them all, especially Defog. That was basically just inventing another annoying hazard so they could give us a super special awesome new HM. No thanks.

 

[HugSomebody]

Awww man HM's bother me. Although they're necessary for game progression, they don't make sense to me. Why would I teach my Pokemon how to surf or how to fly? There isn't anything 'hidden' about that to me. xD

 

[Chris337]

I keep pokemon with fly and surf in my party like mostly everyone, because they're the most useful and actually quite powerful. In my current game I have Pinsir for strength/rock smash/cut, and Gyarados for waterfall/whirlpool, which for the most part aren't great in battle. Rock climb/flash/defog/whatever else can **** off, I just have some random pokemon in the box who can learn those. It's really annoying to have so many HMs in one game, 5 is enough.

 

[The Doctor]

Basically every HM i dislike EXCEPT FLY. It has its uses. It is the most used HM ever

* Edit - Thanks Sydian for pointing my mistake out

 

[Weatherman Kiyoshi]

Mostly the ones that don't have any battle prowess.

Rock Smash; would actually be usful it it had more than 5% power. >.>"
Flash; OH DEAR, YOU DROPPED MY ACCURACY! *kills*
Whirlpool; I love the idea of it as an HM, but power is awful.

the only useful ones out of OverWorld is Fly and Surf.

 

[Emlam]

I have Red and Yellow - don't mind Flash earlyish in the game, I use it with Minimize when I'm trying to catch Pokemon that are too strong for me. :p Then I can freeze them or put them to sleep without dying first.

Cut, me no likey. I give it to Farfetch'd and then never use Farfetch'd for anything else, because its trainer gave it a stupid name and I don't want it on my team. ><