[Challenge] The Monotype Challenge v8, Tera Edition

[Explorer of Time]

Typically when other challenges disallow the use of some legendaries, they use this list https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Tree#Restrictions so I would suggest just using that. Galar didn't have a battle facility that would ban the use of certain pokemon so I propose adding Melmetal and Zarude to the banned list (BST of 600) in addition to what you already have

I'm already aware of this list, but it has some issues. Most notably, it bans literally every Mythical without concern for balance. Nintendo probably did this because they're unobtainable through normal gameplay in their games, but this challenge also extends to romhacks and fangames that may allow Mythicals to be caught, even before the postgame. I'd like to give these Mythicals a similar treatment to the Battle Facility banlist, and let the non-broken ones through. (Also, the Battle Tree list bans Cosmog and Cosmoem, which have the dubious honor of being the two weakest Pokemon in the series, because they're the pre-evos of the box legends.)

I've spent some time taking a look at the Smogon Ubers list for Mythicals to ban/allow as another starting point, but it does take into account a different metagame that Single-player Pokemon doesn't have. FWIW, Melmetal is OU and Zarude is UU.

Deoxys, Darkrai, Genesect, and Marshadow have been consistently in Ubers since their debuts, making them somewhat easy inclusions. Shaymin's Sky Forme has also been consistently in Ubers, but its Land Forme has never been in it, so I'm considering a ban on Sky Forme but not Land Forme. (Sky Forme would also be problematic for mono-Flying runs because it reverts to Land Forme at night, and would be unusable at certain times of day because of RTC stuff.)

Mew has been an Uber in the first five gens, but not since. I'm leaning towards banning it because its "learn all TMs" gimmick will allow a lot of moves that most Psychic-types can't learn and go against the spirit of a mono-Psychic challenge.

Celebi has been an Uber in Gen 2 but has rapidly declined since, making it a likely exclusion from the ban list. Manaphy is an Uber in Gen 4 and 5, but OU in every generation afterward. I'm leaning towards allowing it. Magearna is an Uber in Gen 8 because of the lack of Megas and Z-Moves that can counter it, but most romhacks and fangames that allow it to be caught before the postgame will include them, so I'm considering allowing it as well.

 

[Reginald Cosmic]

I'm looking at my post from last night now. Maybe I should've done a "spoiler" tag, so the story was collapsible. I'm sorry for the huge wall of text.

 

[Explorer of Time]

Nah, it's completely fine. It doesn't take up more than one screen on my desktop and it's interesting to read. Really, the only things people really should be putting in a spoiler are their team movesets, since those take up a lot of space if they have a full team.

 

[Kostucha]

some smogon nonsense

Sorry, but using smogon tier lists to value whether a pokemon should be allowed for in-game challenges sounds like the dumbest idea ever, PvE =/= PvP. It really is best to just use the battle tree list, those mythicals are absolutely busted in-game. Like sure, Cosmog/Cosmoem are very weak and the inclusion makes little sense but no one is going to use them anyway.

 

[Explorer of Time]

Some of them are completely busted, yes, but others aren't. Celebi, with its seven weaknesses and jack-of-all-trades stats, is not exactly better than Garchomp, which has better typing, better stat distribution, the same BST, and has been allowed in every single incarnation of this thread. And because they're mythicals, they'd only be available before the postgame in romhacks and fangames, which often have a higher level of difficulty that makes competitive battling (and thus Smogon) kinda sorta relevant.

That being said, after doing some more research, determining which ones are busted is going to be more work than I thought, and I plan to mostly stick to the Battle Tree list for now. (minus Phione and Cosmog/Cosmoem since they're useless and Keldeo since it's basically on-par with the other Swords of Justice that aren't on the list)

 

[Poohbear1]

Ultimate Normal Mono-type Challenge

Pokémon Blue

Rainbow Badge

Spoiler:

Rainbow Badge

-Backtrack to Cerulean City, Head thru Route 9, avoiding most of the trainers and traveling thru Rock Tunnel without Flash.
-Mewoth evolved into Persian.
-Skip all the trainers on Route 10, heal up at Lavander Town Pokecenter.
-Skip most of the trainers on Route 8.
-Arrive at Celadon City.
-Headed to Route 16 and caught a Dodou.
-Brought 2 Fresh Water, a soda pop and lemonade on top of Celadon City Department top floor.
-Boxed Fearow, Wigglytuff, and Raticate to added Dodou to my party.
-Give the extra fresh water to the guard and got access to Saffron City and TM 29 Psychic.
-Backtrack to Celedon City and clear out the Team Rocket Hideout in Celadon Game Corner and grabbing the Silph Scope.
-Taught TM 29 Psychic to Clefable.
-Return to Celadon City Gym and battle all the gym trainers.
-Brought TM 05 Mega Kick from the Celadon City Department Store and taught it to Clefable, replacing Mega Punch.
-Taught TM 24 Thunderbolt to Clefable.
-Headed Back to Lavander Town, enter the Pokemon Tower, defeat my rival and battle the Cubone's Mother ghost.
-Dodou evolved into Dodrio at level 30.
-Backtracked to Route 16, caught the Snorlax and travel down to Fuchsia City thru Route 17-18.
-Went hunting for a long time in the Safari Zone for a Tauros and Kangaskhan. Also grab the Gold Teeth and HM 04 Surf.
-Eventually caught a Tauros and Kangaskhan.
-Taught Rockslide to Kangaskhan.
-Taught Thunderwave to Clefable, replacing Sing.
-Flew back to Celadon City and play at the game corner for TMs Thunder, Blizzard, and Hyper Beam. (For 3 Days)
-Taught Bodyslam, Hyper Beam and Blizzard to Tauros.
-Taught Ice Beam and Hyper Beam to Snorlax.
-Taught Thunder and Hyper Beam to Persian.
-Taught Hyperbeam to Dodrio.
-Clear out the trainers on Route 12.
-Backtrack to Saffron City and clear out the Fighting Dojo's trainers.
-Clear out Silph Co of Team Rocket, my Rival and Giovanni. Taught Tauros TM 26 Earthquake.
-Return to Celadon City Gym and won against Erika.

Erika's Gym Battle
Dodrio's Drill Peck KO Victreebel, Tangela, and Vileplume.

Poohbea's Party

Spoiler:

Dodrio lvl 35
94/91/63/89/51
-Peck
-Hyper Beam
-Fly
-Drill Peck

Kangaskhan lvl 33
123/78/62/67/44
-Rock Slide
-Mega Punch
-Hyper Beam
-Surf

Snorlax lvl 34
157/94/56/34/61
-Headbutt
-Amnesia
-Hyper Beam
-Ice Beam

Clefable lvl 34
116/60/68/61/73
-Psychic
-Mega Kick
-Thunderbolt
-Thunderwave

Tauros lvl 34
107/78/78/93/66
-Earthquake
-Hyper Beam
-Bodyslam
-Blizzard

Persian lvl 34
103/64/58/92/58
-Scratch
-Bubblebeam
-Thunder
-Hyper Beam

 

[Kostucha]

The difference is that Garchomp and other pseudo legendaries start off weak and take a lot of effort to train. Typically they reach full potential just before the league. Also they don't cover many types, you mostly get dragon, maybe flying, and a select few types for each gen.
It's a complete opposite with mythicals - completely busted from the moment you get them and you can get the very early depending on the rom hack. They also cover a wide variety of types.

In the Celebi example you provided, sure, it's probably not better than a Garchomp, but Garchomp is avaiable only for two - already easy - monotypes. On the other side you have two types that are usually starved for any good type coverage. It would be more sensible to compare Celebi to Exeggutor and it outclasses it in most ways.

Also consider that any mythicals part of the regional dex fall under Trading and Hacking rule 6 - allowing people playing base games to hack them in freely. Please just stick to the Battle tree list, it just opens a pandora's box that will only be a massive nightmare to deal with later, it's not worth it.

 

[Explorer of Time]

The difference is that Garchomp and other pseudo legendaries start off weak and take a lot of effort to train. Typically they reach full potential just before the league. Also they don't cover many types, you mostly get dragon, maybe flying, and a select few types for each gen.
It's a complete opposite with mythicals - completely busted from the moment you get them and you can get the very early depending on the rom hack. They also cover a wide variety of types.

In the Celebi example you provided, sure, it's probably not better than a Garchomp, but Garchomp is avaiable only for two - already easy - monotypes. On the other side you have two types that are usually starved for any good type coverage. It would be more sensible to compare Celebi to Exeggutor and it outclasses it in most ways.

You have a point there. I kinda assumed that most romhacks would wait until very late in the game to allow any Mythicals to be caught, like Radical Red and Unbound do. If I'm just wrong on that part, then yeah, the Battle Tree list it is.

Also consider that any mythicals part of the regional dex fall under Trading and Hacking rule 6 - allowing people playing base games to hack them in freely. Please just stick to the Battle tree list, it just opens a pandora's box that will only be a massive nightmare to deal with later, it's not worth it.

Aannnnd that's a loophole carried over from the last thread that needs to be closed before the updated Battle Tree list is reimplemented. Not intentional at all. I've already edited Rule 6 to close it preemptively.

 

[Explorer of Time]

Alright, here's the preliminary updated version of the Battle Tree banlist:

Mewtwo, Mew, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Celebi, Latios, Latias, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Heatran, Giratina, Cresselia, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Landorus, Kyurem, Meloetta, Genesect, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde (50% Forme and Complete Forme), Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma, Magearna, Marshadow, Zeraora, Melmetal, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Calyrex (Ice/Shadow Rider), Zarude, Koraidon, Miraidon, Fakemon with a BST of 600 or higher that are part of the No Eggs Discovered Egg Group.


Proposed Pokemon to remove from the Battle Tree List: Phione, Keldeo, Zygarde 10% Forme, Cosmog, and Cosmoem.

Cosmog and Cosmoem are useless, Zygarde 10% Forme is an outright weaker version of Zygarde that's balanced with other Pokemon, Phione's weak and arguably isn't a mythical at all since you can hatch an infinite number of them, and Keldeo is extremely mechanically similar to the other Swords of Justice, and should be allowed or banned alongside the other three. Plus, most romhacks will treat them as a set and have them available at similar times.


Proposed Legendaries to add to the Battle Tree list: Latios, Latias, Cresselia, Heatran, Landorus, Melmetal, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Calyrex (Ice/Shadow Rider), Zarude, Koraidon, Miraidon, Fakemon with a BST of 600 or higher that are part of the No Eggs Discovered Egg Group.

All have a BST of 600 or higher. Latios or Latias are gifted in the midgame of ORAS and can be very game-breaking if used, Landorus is a notoriously strong Pokemon, Heatran is one of the best Fire-types in the series, and Cresselia isn't the best but setting the BST cap at 600 for Legends/Mythicals/etc. still provides a consistent and easy-to-understand line for allowing and disallowing fakemon and newly-released Legendaries. The rest are self-explanatory since they were released after Gen VII.



Another pair of possible restrictions on Legendaries I've been thinking of:

1: Require the player to have already have trained a Pokemon of the Legendary's level before using the legendary, to stop them from rushing off to capture, say, their type's Legendary Beast in Johto right after the Burned Tower.

2: Limit the player to one Legendary in their party, for games that have a lot of available Legendaries of one type.

 

[Kostucha]

The Landorus and Cresselia exclusion feels like you're still looking at VGC/smogon usage lists :P (please stop). Battle tree list + 600+ BST legends make a nice and proper list already with clear rules of what counts. Don't add/remove pokemon based on your personal bias.

I feel like the second option would just be best in general. One legendary is already more than you need (I would never use them personally anyway)

 

[Explorer of Time]

The Landorus and Cresselia exclusion feels like you're still looking at VGC/smogon usage lists :P (please stop). Battle tree list + 600+ BST legends make a nice and proper list already with clear rules of what counts. Don't add/remove pokemon based on your personal bias.

I feel like the second option would just be best in general. One legendary is already more than you need (I would never use them personally anyway)

Landorus and Cresselia do have 600 BST (even though the other two in Landorus's trio don't), but I see your point. I'll wait around a week in case other people have feedback, and, if nothing changes, update the Standard Mode rules to allow one Legendary with less than 600 BST and keep all the 600+ BST legends/mythicals banned.

EDIT: Wait, Cresselia got a BST decrease in Gen IX, somehow. I see what you meant and I'll make a special note regarding its BST in different games.

 

[StenirRPG]

Fire Ultimate
Blue / Third and Final Entry

That...Elite Four was painful. But first, everything up to the Elite Four.

First, I beat Koga's gym as soon as I could, got a Snorlax for Surf, caught a Spearow for Fly, and then went over to Pallet Town and surfed down to Cinnbar. There, in the Mansion, I picked up Ponyta...and spent two hours searching for Magmar before finally catching it. 10% chance pfft

After that, a lot of training. I pushed everything to level 40, then took on every trainer in Blaine's gym before taking him down. Every trainer in Silph Co before taking Giovanni down. Every trainer in Sabrina's gym before taking her down. None of them were really hard.

Giovanni's gym was the same, and I honestly thought this was going to be hard, but it really wasn't. I had Dig, and a lot of FIre moves, so I was doing quite the bit of special damage. One move I've sort of found new appreciation for is Fire Spin, at least in Gen 1 where the available moves are limited. The fact that it is basically Fire Wrap is nice, because I tend to do more damage with it against some teams than using Flamethrower, simply because of the multi-turn effect. Having FIre Blast is also nice.

The big challenge of this run? Lance's Gyarados (and Dragonite) as well Rival's Blastoise. Lorelei was just a lot of spamming Fire moves. Bruno was spamming Psychic (I had taught to Magmar) and so was Agatha. It took until early 50s for Magmar to get through Agatha fairly easily. My team ended up finally netting the win only after most were over L50.

Lance's Gyarados was eventually taken down by Rapidash using Stomp and getting a lot of flinches. I had as many runs that didn't get flinches as I did getting through with flinches, so having one run where it was flinch-central was fine by me. Dragonite was only easily taken down by the insistance on using Barrier while my Charizard spammed crit-Slashes.

The battle against the Champion was interesting. I only made it there twice - the very first time when I got super lucky to make ti that far, and the final winning run. Both times I made it to the Blastoise, but Hydro Pump stinks with a Fire team. Flareon made it through the first three all by item simply due to a combination of Sand-Attack and Body Slam, which is no easy feat because the Pidgeot is hard to survive. Arcanine took it down, but a few uses of Stomp later, both it and Exeggutor are down. Blastoise takes a couple of Stomps, and then a couple of Slashes, and a Full Restore, than a few more Slashes, and finally, I just use a single Quick Attack and it crits and down it goes.

After three days of slowly training throughout each day, I was happy to win this one. I probably could have had an easier E4 by getting all my team to 55, but I didn't really think that was super necessary. Hey, I learned something new about FIre Spin and Confuse Ray being actually decent...well, in Gen 1, at least.

Alright, on to Gen 2!

Elite Four Team:

Spoiler:

Flare, L48 Flareon
Body Slam / Bite / Fire Spin / Sand-Attack

Magma, L55 Magmar
Flamethrower / Psychic / Strength / Confuse Ray

Vulpi, L52 Ninetales
Flamethrower / Dig / Quick Attack / Confuse Ray

Charm, L51 Charizard
Flamethrower / Slash / Rage / Leer

Ponyt, L51 Rapidash
Stomp / Take Down / Fire Spin / Fire Blast

 

[Poohbear1]

Ultimate Normal Mono-type Challenge

Pokémon Blue

Marsh Badge + Soul Badge + Volcano Badge + Earth Badge + Rival Battle + Elite Four.

Spoiler:

-Clear out Route 16-18 of trainers.
-Head to Fuchsia City and clear out its gym trainers.
-Clear out Route 12-15 of trainers.
-Flew back to Saffron City, heal at the Poke Center, battle Sabrina and won.

Sabrina's Gym Battle
-Tauros Earthquake takes out Kadabra.
-Tauros Earthquake + Bodyslam to KO Mr. Mime and Venomoth.
-Tauros Bodyslam x2 to take out Alakazam.

-Flew to Fuschia City and Battle Koga.

Koga's Gym Battle
-Tauros Earthquake + Bodyslam to KO Koffing.
-Kangaskhan's Mega Punch + Hyper Beam to take out Muk.
-Kangaskhan's Mega Punch x2 to take out Koffing.
-Koga Weezing self-destruck took out my Kangaskan,letting me win.

-Flew to Pallet Town, and surf to Cinnabar Island, taking out the trainers along the way.
-Clear out the Pokémon Mansion and got the Secret Key.
-Enter the Cinnabar Island Gym and Battle Blaine

Blaine's Gym Battle
Kangaskhan's Rockslide took out Growlithe and Ponyta.
Kangaskhan's Rockslide + Surf took out Rapidash.
Kangaskhan's Rockslide x2 before Arcanine's Ember + Fire Blast took out my Kangaskhan.
Persian's Bubblebeam x2 KO Arcanine.

-Flew to Lavander Town and head up to Route 10 to clear out the trainers.
-Flew to Cerulean City and clear out the trainers on Route 9.
-Flew to Viridian City, enter the gym and battle Giovanni.

Giovanni's Gym Battle
-Tauros Blizzard KO Rhyhorn and Dugtrio.
-Switch to Clefable, use Psychic x2 to take out Nidoqueen and Nidoking.
-Switch to Persian, use Bubblebeam x2 to take out Rhydon.

-Battle my rival on Route 22.

Rival Battle
-Persian's Thunder KO his Pidgeot.
-Switch to Kangaskan and use surf on his Rhyhorn.
-Kangaskhan's Rockslide + Mega Punch to take out his Growlithe.
-Two Mega Punches from Kangaskhan took out his Exeggcute.
-Switch to Snorlax and use 2 bodyslams to Ko his Alakazam.
-Switch to Dodrio, use 2 Fly and 1 hyperbeam to get his Blastoise to yellow health before Dodrio Fainted.
-Use Clefable's Thunderbolt to take out his Blastoise.

-Travel thru Victory Road, clearing out the trainers.
-Heal at the Poke center at the Indigo Plateau.
-Level up my Pokémon against Elite Four, which means slowly gaining levels and losing a lot.

 

[Explorer of Time]

update

Have you beaten the Champion yet, or not? I need to know before updating your challenge status.

 

[Poohbear1]

No, I haven't beaten the Elite Four or Champion yet, sorry, I should've said that in my previous post. I am using the Elite Four to level my Pokémon instead of using Victory Road, they are in the mid 40s.

 

[Explorer of Time]

All right, here are the proposed new Legendary rules for Standard Mode. I'll implement these on Wednesday, unless anyone has any objections or corrections. (I know that no official Legendary has Truant as its ability, but I'm trying to cover potential fakemon that might have it.)

1. You may not use any Legendary Pokémon with a base stat total of 600 or higher in trainer battles, unless that Pokémon has Slow Start or Truant as its ability. If a Legendary Pokémon has multiple forms, only those forms with a base stat total equal to or above 600 are prohibited. For official Pokémon, this includes: Mewtwo, Mew, Ho-Oh, Lugia, Celebi, Latios, Latias, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Heatran, Giratina, Cresselia (If not using its Gen IX stats), Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Landorus, Kyurem, Meloetta, Genesect, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde 50% Forme, Zygarde Complete Forme, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma, Magearna, Marshadow, Zeraora, Melmetal, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Ice Rider Calyrex, Shadow Rider Calyrex, Zarude, Koraidon, and Miraidon. Any Legendary Fakemon with a base stat total of 600+ is also prohibited (unless it has one of the two handicap abilities), as are any official Legendaries not listed here that have had their base stat total or ability modified to be in breach of this rule.
2. You may not use more than one Legendary Pokémon in your team at any one time.
3. If you are playing a game or romhack where NPC trainers that you battle would be in violation of either of the above rules, to keep a level playing field, you may use up to as many Legendaries as they do, and/or Legendaries that have a base stat total of up to that of their highest-BST Legendary. This rule takes effect after the boss battle (Gym Leader, Champion, Team Leader, etc.) before the trainer that has rule-breaking Legendaries.
4. A Pokémon is considered to be Legendary under these rules if it is obtained only through limited static encounters, cannot be bred, and has a base stat total of 570 or higher. For the sake of simplicity, any mention of Legendaries in these rules also includes Ultra Beasts and Mythicals that fit these criteria. These Pokémon may still be caught for out-of-battle purposes.

Gen 1 Specific Rules: If playing Standard Mode of a Gen 1 game, or a romhack or fangame that uses the Special stat instead of Special Attack and Special Defense, Legendary Pokémon with a base stat total of 500 or higher are prohibited instead of those with a base stat total of 600 or higher, and Legendary Pokémon are defined by having a base stat total of 475 or higher instead of 570 or higher.

 

[StenirRPG]

Ultimate Fire Run
Gold / #1 / The First Four Gyms

In this post (i.e., TL;DR)

Spoiler:

1.) New Pokemon - Cyndaquil
2.) Rival 1
3.) Complete First Gym
4.) Complete Second Gym
5.) Rival 2
6.) New Pokemon - Growlithe
7.) Complete Third Gym
8.) Rival 3
9.) New Pokemon - Magmar
10.) Complete Fourth Gym

The full read:

Spoiler:

Always nice when it's a flat 10 steps. Or 5 steps. Or some multiple. I figure that's a good way to start off posts with a TL;DR at the beginning showing the main things I did at a high level.

Now for the slightly longer, but not as much as I used to, explanation:

Step 1: Get Cyndaquil. Name it Cynda. Seems the Fire run has taken on the "only use the first five" mantra, but when I get to Magmar, I add "II" at the end since it's my second use.

Step 2: Rival 1. Pfft. Pushover since I'm a little bit higher than his Pokemon.

Step 3: First Gym. Nothing bad here. I went through Sprout Tower to build up some levels, and that makes the Gym easy.

Step 4: Second Gym. It's Bug. I'm Fire, and I'm already a Quilava. I have Fire move. Bug burn.

Step 5: Rival 2. I had to try this a second time because Smokescreen didn't work as well as it could have (i.e., Water Gun got through a few times). Second time, no problem. Only got hit once by it. Smokescreen ftw.

Step 6: Get Growlithe. In order to pick up Growlithe at this point, I use my Paras HM friend to use Cut to sneak around National Park. Just on the other side is a small patch of grash before the Sudowoodo (it's like 2x5 or 2x4 and sandwiched between two trainers). In there, I can find a Growlithe. So, I pick that up. I went out of my way to do this, fearing Whitney's Rollout, because I'm weak to it. So, time to train that up.

Step 7: Third Gym. After fighting all the trainers to get some last minute experience and levels, I heal up and go after Whitney...and Smokescreen once again helps. After that, I can pretty much do whatever I want. Bite, Ember, Quick Attack, etc. The Miltank did get two uses of Rollout in, but it was Rollout hit, Rollout miss, Rollout hit...so damage, but not much.

Step 8: Rival 3. Burned Tower. Only reason I went here is because I want Magmar, and you can find them on the basement floor. I thought about getting Eevee for Flareon, but from what I found out, it's very limited as to how many stones you get, so I figured Growlithe needed it more, and I'll eventually have more Pokemon anyways. If needed, I can always come back and get it. This one was a little more...problematic as far as Rival fights go. Not hard, just getting a little frustrating. Haunter goes down to Bite from Growlithe, Magnemite goes down to Ember. I switch to Quilava to be ready, and take down Zubat easy, then it's back to Smokescreen to save my team from Croconaw. Which...oddly wasn't bad because the rival must have been hit over the head as he starts spamming Rage. Which keeps missing. Anyways...two attempts here and I make it through.

Step 9: Get Magmar. This one took me about five resets since I don't have much money and only 7 great balls. The spawn rate kinda sucks (I think it was 10% during the day, otherwise 5%)...and it kept breaking out of my balls. Well, finally, I catch one, and name it "Magma II". Figure that's what I'll do for the rest of the Fire Ultimate to see how much I end up catching.

Step 10: Use Bite. I mean, Fourth Gym. But yeah, this is Ghost...Growlithe has a Dark move. So, it's spam Bite until Growlithe goes down, and then Fire Punch from Magmar to do a bit of damage to end the match.

Trying to decide if I go east or west from here.

My team:

Spoiler:

Cynda, L28 Quilava
HP 83 / Atk 53 / Def 45 / SpA 57 / SpD 49 / Spe 62
Ember / Quick Attack / Smokescreen / Headbutt

Growl, L23 Growlithe
HP 61 / Atk 45 / Def 30 / SpA 45 / SpD 35 / Spe 36
Bite / Roar / Ember / Headbutt

Magma II, L23 Magmar
HP 66 / Atk 52 / Def 33 / SpA 53 / SpD 47 / Spe 57
Ember / Headbutt / Smog / Fire Punch

 

[Kostucha]

Finished up the Water monotype in Platinum that I started like half a year ago. It's the easiest type so it mostly went without issues, especially once Gyarados picked up Dragon Dance.

Hall of Fame:

Spoiler:

Team:

Spoiler:

Mist, Brave, Intimidate, lv.56 @Mystic Water
- Aqua Tail
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Dragon Dance

Hafu, Quiet, Torrent, lv.55 @NeverMeltIce
- Surf
- Grass Knot
- Flash Cannon
- Ice Beam

Quib, Docile, Water Absorb, lv.54 @Metronome
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Rain Dance
- Waterfall

Kool, Naughty, Clear Body, lv.55 @Poison Barb
- Surf
- Poison Jab
- Giga Drain
- Toxic Spikes

Gonna tackle Normal type next

 

[StenirRPG]

Ultimate Fire Run
Gold / #2 / The Second Four Gyms and Elite Four Round 1

In this post (i.e., TL;DR)

Spoiler:

1.) Get Surf.
2.) Complete Fifth Gym.
3.) Complete Sixth Gym.
4.) Complete Rocket Storyline.
5.) Complete Seventh Gym.
6.) Complete Eighth Gym.
7.) Forget Waterfall.
8.) Elite Four

The full read:

Spoiler:

Step 1: Pick up Surf in Ecruteak. Relatively easy when you have Pokemon like Magmar Fire Punch'ing everything only to switch to Headbutt when needed.

Step 2: Lighthouse and the Fifth Gym. The Lighthouse wasn't much of a problem. I think I skipped a trainer or two at the end, but I wasn't too worried about it. I knew the Rocket storyline was almost here and I'd get a bit of grinding done there. As for the Gym itself, it honestly was both worse and easier than I thought. For that Poli-piece-of-death that I was worried about, Headbutt kept it at bay with three flinches. That's the most I've seen in a long time in a single battle. Up to that point, however, the Fighting types do a lot of damage to my team, so after each battle I go heal up just to ensure I am good to go.

Step 3: Fire Punch the whole way through Jasmine's team. That's all I have to say here, which is understandable given my team and her team.

Step 4: Catch a Gyarados (because I'll need it for Waterfall and my Krabby can't learn that). Watch Lance Hyper Beam a person because he's nice like that. Then starts the two-part end to Team Rocket. Well, four part, I guess, since you do the Mahogany part, then Radio Tower part 1, Basement, Radio Tower part 2. Relatively easy experience. I heal between the different portions, and it's a nice grind. Gets my Pokemon even in levels, though this is Pokemon so that won't stay the same for long.

Step 5: It's an Ice Gym. Fire awesome.

Step 6: Okay, that cavern kinda sucks...if you forget Waterfall. But then I thought I had to grind a little to be able to take on Clair and her dragons...only for me to realize I could do a little better by teaching my now Typhlosion Rollout. So, what happened the first two attempts is that I fought one Dragonair and then fought the Kingdra. My solution? Smokescreen x6 the Dragonair, healing up along the way as needed. At full health and with Accuracy on that Dragonair as low as possible, start Rollout. With three Rollouts, Dragonair goes down. Out comes Kingdra. The fourth Rollout in the set barely avoids hitting red, and Clair wastes time using a Hyper Potion. Fifth Rollout does take it out. After that, just more of the same. Rollout - the move that feels cheap until you remember Whitney didn't mind.

Step 7: I had to backtrack for Waterfall because I stupidly forgot it. Hence Step 7.

Step 8: Elite Four. Well, Rollout gets me through Will. Slowbro was the worst here and it's just Headbutt and hope. Koga is just Sunny Day and then Fire moves. Bruno is basically the same as Koga. Karen is a mix of Headbutt, Fire moves, and Rollout. Lance was actually stupidly easy - same as Clair...Rollout. His team all have Flying, so two uses of Rollout (assuming they all hit) takes out his team. That Gyarados does suck, but this worked so I'm all good about it.

Up next: The Kanto-ur. Kan-tour? The tour of the Kanto gyms. And then Elite Four round 2 and an attempt at Red. I can't wait to finally get a Fire Stone.

Team Stats:

Spoiler:

Cynda, L46 Typhlosion
HP 153 / Atk 107 / Def 93 / SpA 121 / SpD 99 / Spe 121
Flame Wheel / Headbutt / Rollout / Smokescreen

Growl, L39 Growlithe
HP 102 / Atk 80 / Def 52 / SpA 77 / SpD 61 / Spe 63
Bite / Roar / Flame Wheel / Headbutt

Magma II, L43 Magmar
HP 120 / Atk 99 / Def 63 / SpA 101 / SpD 88 / Spe 107
Headbutt / Flamethrower / Sunny Day / Strength

 

[Poohbear1]

Ultimate Normal Mono-type Challenge

Pokémon Blue

Elite Four Battle

Spoiler:

Lorelei
Clefable's Thunderbolt took out her Dewgong, Cloyster, and Slowbro .
Switch to Kangaskhan and took out Jyxn with two Mega Punch.
Kanaskhan use 2 Rock Slides before being taken out by 2 blizzards from Lapras.
Switch to Persian and use thunder to take out her lapras.

Use a revive and full restored on Kangaskhan.

Bruno
-Use Kangaskhan's Surf to take out Onix
-Switch to Dodrio and use drill peck to ko Hitmonchan.
-Use another Drill Peck to KO Hitmonlee.
-Switch to Snorlax and use Ice Beam to one hit his Onix.
-Switch to Dodrio again to Drill Peck crit his Machamp.

Agatha
-Use Tauros' Earthquake to Ko Gengar.
-Switch to Kangaskhan and use Rock Slide x2 on Golbat.
-Switch back to Tauros and use Earthquake on Haunter.
-Tauros Earthquake + Bodyslam to take out Arbok.
-Tauros Eaqrthquake x2 to take out Gengar.

Lance
-Persian's Thunderbolt + Slash to KO Gyarados.
-Switch to Snorlax and use Ice Beam x2 on both of his Dragonair,Aerodacytl and his Dragonite.

Rival
-Tauros Thunder KO his Pidgeot.
-Switch to Persian and use Slash x2 to take out his Alakazam.
-Use a Persian's Bubblebeam to crit his Rhydon.
-Switch to Kangaskhan and use Rock Slide + Mega Punch on Arcanine.
-Use Mega Punch x3 on his Exeggutor.
-Switch to Clefable, use thunderbolt x2 on Blastoise before being taken out.
-Switch in Dodrio and use Drill Peck for the win.

Poohbea's Party

Spoiler:

Tauros lvl 53
169/135/134/155/115
-Earthquake
-Thunder
-Body Slam
-Blizzard

Dodrio lvl 52
138/147/104/144/88
-Tri Attack
-Hyper Beam
-Fly
-Drill Peck

Clefable lvl 52
175/99/115/103/123
-Psychic
-Mega Kick
-Thunderbolt
-Thunderwave

Kangaskhan lvl 53
199/138/115/122/85
-Rock Slide
-Mega Punch
-Fissure
-Surf

Persian lvl 53
159/110/97/153/102
-Slash
-Bubblebeam
-Thunder
-Hyper Beam

Snorlax lvl 52
242/155/100/67/105
-Body Slam
-Strength
-Double-Edge
-Ice Beam

Ultimate Normal Mono-type Challenge: Pokémon Blue-Finished