The Official Deoxys-E Discussion

[Syaoran]

Taunt goes through subs and can stop defensive Deoxys-E. Sadly the best taunter, Gyarados is hammered by Thunderbolt and also Crobat which can go down with STAB Psychic or Thunderbolt / Ice Beam. But remember it can only have 4 moves, so it will have to give something up for a good defensive moveset.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Taunt goes through subs and can stop defensive Deoxys-E. Sadly the best taunter, Gyarados is hammered by Thunderbolt and also Crobat which can go down with STAB Psychic or Thunderbolt / Ice Beam. But remember it can only have 4 moves, so it will have to give something up for a good defensive moveset.

Defensive Doexys - E packs Taunt aswell unfortunately =[

 

[ben_king18]

Sorry, what is a Deoxys-E

 

[luke]

The Speed form of Deoxys.

 

[sims796]

I personally don't care for it. I had a match with Deano, who had used Deoxys. He won, but it was a little hax involed, which threw off my decision on Deo.

Well, It had used Psyhic on my Forry, which was a critical. Forry barely survived in the yellow. One more Psychic knocked him out. Then, my Gya came. Without a single DD, it KOed Deo with Waterfall. Or two, I don't remember.

With better moves, however, I feel his Deoxys would have surpassed what it had performed.

I thank God that it doesn't get a Fire moove, or else he should be an uber.

 

[Dark Azelf]

I personally don't care for it. I had a match with Deano, who had used Deoxys. He won, but it was a little hax involed, which threw off my decision on Deo.

Well, It had used Psyhic on my Forry, which was a critical. Forry barely survived in the yellow. One more Psychic knocked him out. Then, my Gya came. Without a single DD, it KOed Deo with Waterfall. Or two, I don't remember.

With better moves, however, I feel his Deoxys would have surpassed what it had performed.

I thank God that it doesn't get a Fire moove, or else he should be an uber.

It gets Fire Punch via move tutor in emerald.


The pressure stall set is far more threatening than the sweeper IMO.

 

[Faceless*]

Enough of the sets, any counters for Deoxys-Speed?

Extremespeed/Aqua Jet/Stealth Rock

/Or/

Choice Scarf/Walls

any others recommended?

 

[sims796]

Counters my arse. That is why I think he should be uber. Despite its 95 base, it can still hit hard, what with its fantastic movepool.

I don't think first-hit moves are enough. It can hit hard enough to hurt those that can use Aqua-Attack Shard. SR counters almost anything, that's a bit moot.

 

[Anti]

The best I can think of is a CBgross with Bullet Punch, bnut even that sounds shaky.

Choice Scarf Alakazam would work, but would have little use outside of that.

 

[Faceless*]

Yeah, Deoxy's has almost the exact same bulk as Starmie, but Deoxys has uber-speed with a killer moveset

The best counter i can think of it Stealh Rock combined with Focus Sash Weavile with Pursuit/Ice Shard, or even Spiritomb

 

[sims796]

The best I can think of is a CBgross with Bullet Punch, bnut even that sounds shaky.

Choice Scarf Alakazam would work, but would have little use outside of that.

Unforunately, that's not a good thing to say.

Like Shedinja. I hear he can do pretty well in ubers. But, well, we know how it is in other versions.

 

[Faceless*]

People using Deoxys-E usually overestimate it's capabilities and get owned themselves, I've beaten a few people using Deoxys-E after they tried a Brick Break on my Blissey

 

[Anti]

Unforunately, that's not a good thing to say.

Like Shedinja. I hear he can do pretty well in ubers. But, well, we know how it is in other versions.

I don't really get what you're saying...

I'm not promoting D-E one bit for OUs, I think it's uber-ific. But I don't make those decisions.

And I loved when somebody thought they could own my Kingdra with Deoxys and got owned, it was lol

 

[Faceless*]

Kingdra is something different, it only has one weakness, I guess this is why they made Gyaradoss stupid Flying type =P

Honestly, Deoxys in my opinion is sometimes just too overestimated, much like some Baton Passing UU's like the Eeveelutions.

 

[shedinjask]

This is the same kind of thing that keeps Primeape in UU. It has no true, sure-fire counters. However, for it to be too good for UU the Primeape user would have to predict perfectly every time. It simply fails to O/2HKO a lot of things without CB, and that is its weakness, one that Deoxys-S shares.

So since the sweeper set is OU, the stall sets are what you really have to worry about. If it gets up a Sub it is nearly unstoppable, though the same can be said about a lot of OUs. And then there's the CounterCoat set, which is a great set to be using. Takes out one or two every match for me, sometimes more.

 

[_Prince_]

i battled T_s yesterday. I must say defensive deoxys-s was so easy to take out than i thought it would. It caused like 0% harm to my team. Calmcune was more threatening, it was going to sweep all 6 of his pokes, untill he *coughran-awaycough* but yeah a crunch from CB T-tar does loads to defensive version of deoxys-s even if it has raised its defences a few times. Just ask him yourselves.

 

[Ársa]

It was 3am in the morning, and the match was going no-where. I couldn't do anything with my team, as I had no counter for CMcune. Trust me when I say, it is definately a lot more deadly when it can get in and set-up without other stat-ups to contend with. (Your CMcune was already on full when I sent Deoxys in, because I couldn't KO it.)

As for the T-Tar attack, I only had 2 Cosmic Power, and it did just over half. That is pretty damn good for a STAB'd CB'd Crunch from 405 Attack.

~T_S

 

[Ársa]

All you did was copy and paste. You want to show me up don't you Prince?

~T_S

 

[_Prince_]

All you did was copy and paste. You want to show me up don't you Prince?

~T_S

No sorry, i'm posting through my phone. Must have got messed up or something.

 

[Ársa]

Well let's sort it out in the PC Wifi Tourny. I just won my match with Shiraishi today, so you'd better win yours.

~T_S