I second that^
I want Rhyperior to be moved up to BL too but that won't happen. It seems everyone else can handle that thing but me. Its just one of those pokemon that is the bane of my existence.
I second that^
I want Rhyperior to be moved up to BL too but that won't happen. It seems everyone else can handle that thing but me. Its just one of those pokemon that is the bane of my existence.
With 4 Speed EVs, Milotic outruns 252 Speed Rhyperior and OHKOes it with Surf, while being OHKOed by no attack outside of Adamant Choice Band Rock Wrecker with Stealth Rock (extremely unlikely).
Pokemon such as Venusaur, Azumarill, Tangrowth and Sceptile also exist to take its attacks/OHKO it. Azumarill can even cause massive damage to the Rock Polish set thanks to priority. And remember our good friends Weezing, Poliwrath, Feraligatr, Torterra, Hitmontop and Hariyama? Aside from the special attackers that can OHKO it with non-STAB attacks (Alakazam). Rhyperior will never be a Pokemon which is particularly hard to deal with. Throwing a Pokemon on your team that can outspeed +2 Rhyperior and packs a grass/water move, preferably STAB, effectively means that Rhyperior will not sweep your team. Rhyperior in BL? Wait 'till Heracross moves down~
EDIT: And to all those who think Alakazam will be suspect, Alakazam's absolute #1 counter in the whole game is actually a UU Pokemon. Spiritomb. Plus it's not like Absol, Sneasel, Chansey, Choice Scarf and Physical Priority exist now is it? (:
Hitmontop because it gets foresight allowing tit to spin on ghosts. I use it in OU because of that reason:laugh:Which is the best non OU rapid spinner? It doesn't have to know entry hazards of it's own.
Which is the best non OU rapid spinner? It doesn't have to know entry hazards of it's own.
Which is the best non OU rapid spinner? It doesn't have to know entry hazards of it's own.
So any word on a Suspect test for Cresselia and Porygon-Z and maybe Zam?
I second that^
I want Rhyperior to be moved up to BL too but that won't happen. It seems everyone else can handle that thing but me. Its just one of those pokemon that is the bane of my existence.
"Maybe you're just bad?"
Why has no one mentioned Donphan as a UU Rapid Spinner? Unlike others, ghosts can't really switch in on Donphan without risking large sums of damage. 120 Base Attack with STAB Earthquake and Assurance is nothing to sneeze at, especially in the cases of Haunter/Froslass/Rotom/Mismagius who are risking OHKOes.
Donphan also gets rocks of its own, and is a fantastic physical tank; one of the very best answers to Aggron in the game.
Cloyster and Torkoal aren't terrible either; Torkoal is the only rapid spinner who doesn't risk a burn from incoming ghosts, and Spiritomb won't enjoy being burnt, nor Froslass hit with a STAB fire attack. Torkoal also functions as a perfectly viable stop to physical Arcanine, Venusaur etc
Why has no one mentioned Donphan as a UU Rapid Spinner? Unlike others, ghosts can't really switch in on Donphan without risking large sums of damage. 120 Base Attack with STAB Earthquake and Assurance is nothing to sneeze at, especially in the cases of Haunter/Froslass/Rotom/Mismagius who are risking OHKOes.
Donphan also gets rocks of its own, and is a fantastic physical tank; one of the very best answers to Aggron in the game.
Cloyster and Torkoal aren't terrible either; Torkoal is the only rapid spinner who doesn't risk a burn from incoming ghosts, and Spiritomb won't enjoy being burnt, nor Froslass hit with a STAB fire attack. Torkoal also functions as a perfectly viable stop to physical Arcanine, Venusaur etc