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Sonata

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    You don't have to read this, I rambled on a lot and don't even know if I answered your question and I probably repeated a bunch and contradicted myself.

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    Oryx

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    You asked a lot of deep questions here. I'm going to split them up for ease of answering.

    1. why do you like the opposite sex? What is so attractive about them? I like the masculine form. Not to say that I like men that are ripped, but the way men are built on the whole, the proportions in general of men, the muscular structure of men, etc. I also find that male genitalia is...ahem...superior to imitations.

    2. How did you realised you liked the opposite sex? My first crush was in sixth grade. It wasn't sexual in the least; the most physical thing I ever wanted to do with him was hug him. Realizing straightness is a strange concept, as it's part of the overarching structure; part of straight privilege is not having a need to come out even in your own mind, because your sexuality has been supported and assumed since birth. I never had to question my attraction to boys when I was young, or wonder if there was anything more to my sexuality.

    3. Why won't you chose your own gender even if it's just to experiment? Or how do you know about without even trying? Sexuality isn't about how good someone is in bed, it's about who I'm sexually attracted to. The body responds to physical sexual stimulation no matter who is performing it, so it's not about what your body responds to. It's about who you want to have sex with; because I don't want to have sex with women and I do want to have sex with men, I am straight.

    4. What is so repulsive about your own gender even though you have the same genitals and appearence of your own gender? Does it mean if you look at a mirror you are grossed out at your own appearence? My gender isn't repulsive at all; I think women are quite beautiful and in some ways more beautiful than men. Straight people can masturbate without wanting to handle another person's genitalia of their gender.
     

    Cherrim

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    I can't really imagine being "just" gay or straight, for lack of a better word. I've always found both men and women attractive and the concept of not being attracted to either of those sexes is just... it feels so foreign to me? I literally can't even imagine it. Like there are definitely people I find more attractive than others and some people I am not sexually attracted to at all but on the whole it seems so weird to me that the vast majority of people are only attracted to one sex.

    I've been attracted to both sexes since before I even knew what sexuality or sexual orientation really was. I didn't understand my feelings towards girls back then but upon reflection, I had crushes on girls too. (I tended to play with/befriend guys more often as a kid so I had more crushes on boys back then but that ended up changing as the scale tipped and I met more female friends instead.) Porn is a whole other discussion, I know, but when I discovered it as a kid, I didn't even realize there was such a thing as the "male gaze" because the way I saw the female body presented in it was pretty pleasing to me too. :P
    Interesting. I think I would be partially bi if i was not so bussy trying to defend my gay side. I just don't want for it to banish. In case of converting that is not that simple because really nobody is feeling what I feel and practically that in a sense would be suicide on my part. If I was to date a girl I would have to simply relate to the girl not feel the pressure that I have to date her because I need to prove a point. Again the female body does not repulse me but I also feel neutrality and ambiguity. I also haven't known how to be in a relationship being friend or relationship with a girl. I haven't done the same to a man but there is defenitly feelings there. If I was forced to convert I wouod pretty much prefer killing myself than lose does feelings. Forcing someone to like someone because theu must do is spiritual suicide. I pretty much prefer to kill myself (even though there is a possibility my mind will fade away also).
    Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
    I don't think anyone is really 100% gay or straight. Being either one doesn't mean you have to shun the other gender and completely remove them from your potential dating (/sex) pool. Just let yourself like what you like and don't worry about the label of sexual orientation. If that means you're only interested in guys... great! If it means you're mainly interested in guys but you're open to experimentation with girls... also great! If it means you don't want to do anything at all, it's your prerogative. I wouldn't worry too much about "defending your gay side". I don't know what your life offline is like but eventually you'll be out of there and able to embrace however you truly want to be, so no need to force yourself to try to be straight or anything if it's only going to make you miserable. Life's too short for that kind of thing. And here at PC and online? Honestly, here at PC I tend to assume people are gay until proven straight hahaha. No one here, at least, will judge you either way; so you can be yourself, no matter what that self is. :)
     
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    why do you like the opposite sex? What is so attractive about them? How did you realised you liked the opposite sex? Why won't you chose your own gender even if it's just to experiment? Or how do you know about without even trying? What is so repulsive about your own gender even though you have the same genitals and appearence of your own gender? Does it mean if you look at a mirror you are grossed out at your own appearence?
    I don't know. I just can't imagine having a woman in bed with me, expecting me to do sexy things to her. I have had small crushes on girls, actually. Back when I was just into my teenage years, it was. But I rather quickly realized that what I could feel for boys was so much more, so I never tried to pursue anything with a girl. I wouldn't choose a girl when there's eligible boys.

    I'm definitely not grossed out by my own appearance when I look in the mirror, haha, why would I be? I like my body (even though it could be trimmed down on a few points, harhar). I just want to be one side of the coin in a sexual relationship and have my partner be the other.

    If I was with another woman, wouldn't I constantly compare myself to her? One of us would be the good looking one and the other one the not-as-good looking one? Isn't that a problem for gay people? I've been wondering :x

    All in all, I like what I like and I can't really explain it. I can very well think of a woman as attractive. Not sexy, but cute, beautiful even. I can become very emotionally attached to girls. But not sexually interested. Men, on the other hand, grr. Here, I'll illustrate with some examples close to my heart:

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    Nihilego

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    Hmmm. :\ I think you're looking at this in a really black-and-white way, assuming that because I'm straight I'm "repulsed" by my own sex and that I "won't" ever experiment. It's almost as if you think that all straight people are militantly against the idea of doing anything with someone of their own sex and automatically find anything other than that disgusting, which... isn't really the case at all a lot of the time. I know that of the number of straight people I've talked to about this who've reacted in that way is the minority and honestly if I may say so, for you, I don't really think it's very healthy that you presume that this is what we think of you because most of the time from what I've experienced, it isn't. Perhaps it's just where I live or who I'm friends with or whatever, but eh.

    To be fair I'm probably a bit of a more extreme case since doing stuff with another man is actually something I've thought about before. I think I watched a South Park episode where Butters was described as bi-curious. I'm not sure if that's a thing irl or not (it just sounds like a fancy term for a straight guy who wonders what it'd be like with another man, because apparently everything needs a label) but go ahead and describe me as that if you like, haha. I've definitely had mancrushes and I've definitely thought about it. It's actually funny since I know the offer's there (don't ask how i know that.) although I doubt I'll be taking it - and I feel like that's how I know I'm straight. Because while, sure, I'd be interested in what it's like, I know that it'd not be right for me because it'd literally be nothing more than experimentation. With a girl it's more than just 'to see what it's like'; it's because it's what you're comfortable with and you enjoy it. The idea of trying with a guy isn't repulsive or anything like that to me, but I know it'd be pure experimentation and not something that I'd automatically think was for me. If that makes sense? Maybe I'm explaining it badly but it makes sense in my head, haha. That's all definitely just me being weird and not typical of straight guys, though.

    Of course it's not all about the sexual side of things, but unless you're outright asexual, that's a big deal - especially looking at relationship-level stuff and if it's all based on "I wonder what it's like" then it's not what's natural for me. Experimentation is a great thing but with something so intimate and personal I feel it's just best to play it by what feels natural to you.

    or maybe im just basically bi idk 8D
     

    Ivysaur

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    1. why do you like the opposite sex?

    What is so attractive about them? Well, I find curvaceous bodies attractive and that description tends to describe women more than anything.

    2. How did you realised you liked the opposite sex?

    Again, and this the main problem of how gay people have been treated historically as opposed to straights, I did not "realize", I just... went along with it. When you are told it's "normal" to like the opposite sex, you don't mark the day you decide you like the opposite sex because you don't consider it anything worth remembering.

    3. What is so repulsive about your own gender even though you have the same genitals and appearence of your own gender? Does it mean if you look at a mirror you are grossed out at your own appearence?

    No, I'm not grossed out, and I once had a crush on a man during my high school years. But the thing is, I don't find the male body attractive. It doesn't turn me on. When I was at the gym getting undressed to take a shower and I looked at the naked male bodies around me, the last thing I felt was arousal. If anything, I'd look at the genitals to measure -ahem-, but that's it. In contrast, I can find some girls attractive even dressed.

    4. Why won't you chose your own gender even if it's just to experiment? Or how do you know about without even trying?

    The problem is that there isn't much to "try" here. It's hard for me to work sexually with a man because my own gentitals won't cooperate. It's like... why won't you eat fried bugs for lunch? Well, some people eat them, maybe they are actually very tasty, but I look at them and the last thing I feel is hunger.
     
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    maccrash

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    FOOLISH AND NAIVE!


    **** all of you gay ass people, go take your penis sucking antics elsewhere. I hate you all, your opinions are meaningless. Why? Because **** you that's why, I don't need to justify myself against you abominations of nature.

    Your statement therefore evaluates to false.

    It's absurd to present an argument that shies away from absolutes (saying no one can be 100% of anything) and then say that "no one will judge you, whatever you are" which is basically an absolute statement, because a logically minded person such as myself will then question the entire basis of your previous argument.
    omg I don't even know what's happening in this post

    1. Why do you like the opposite sex?
    they're prettier than guys. I dunno. I'm not sure why I do, it just kinda happens that way.

    2. How did you realise you liked the opposite sex?
    I've pretty much known my entire life; there was no one moment of realization haha. I guess it's because it's pretty much impossible for me to think of a guy in a sexual light that I know I'm straight, I guess? this is harder to articulate than I thought.

    3. Why won't you chose your own gender even if it's just to experiment? Or how do you know about without even trying?
    I guess I would try to experiment if given the chance but like, it's not something that I'm actively going to seek out. and like Razor Leaf/Axton/whatever said above me, another reason I know I'm straight is because trying anything with a guy would be just that: experimentation. nothing more, nothing less. and that's not very intimate.

    4. What is so repulsive about your own gender even though you have the same genitals and appearence of your own gender? Does it mean if you look at a mirror you are grossed out at your own appearence?
    it's not repulsive, per se. it's just not arousing, haha. I don't have to resist the urge to vomit whenever I see a penis... that sounded weird. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not repulsed. when I look in the mirror I'm not grossed out, either. in fact, I feel pretty neutral when I look in the mirror. it feels normal.
     
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    I don't know. I just can't imagine having a woman in bed with me, expecting me to do sexy things to her. I have had small crushes on girls, actually. Back when I was just into my teenage years, it was. But I rather quickly realized that what I could feel for boys was so much more, so I never tried to pursue anything with a girl. I wouldn't choose a girl when there's eligible boys.

    I'm definitely not grossed out by my own appearance when I look in the mirror, haha, why would I be? I like my body (even though it could be trimmed down on a few points, harhar). I just want to be one side of the coin in a sexual relationship and have my partner be the other.

    If I was with another woman, wouldn't I constantly compare myself to her? One of us would be the good looking one and the other one the not-as-good looking one? Isn't that a problem for gay people? I've been wondering :x

    All in all, I like what I like and I can't really explain it. I can very well think of a woman as attractive. Not sexy, but cute, beautiful even. I can become very emotionally attached to girls. But not sexually interested. Men, on the other hand, grr. Here, I'll illustrate with some examples close to my heart:

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    You know, this is how I feel with those reaction to the pictures, but switched (and altered a little slightly). I find myself looking at other guys with traits that I desire and wanting to look more like them nearly every single day, but I don't think that with women. When I look at a woman I'm attracted to, I feel hot. Have you ever drunk alcohol, and had that warming sensation happen to you? That's what it feels like. And then I feel a knot in my stomach - like butterflies, and yet every time I think of them I can't help but be happy. And then, when I focus on them, I get sexual thoughts that turn me on. I want to be with them. Romantically, sexually, emotionally. That's how attraction works. We've all experienced that. But I don't feel that attraction to women who aren't my type, physically. I don't find every woman to be attractive.

    I find the guys that I look at to be attractive too, but I think I look at them with a more admiration and maybe a bit of envy than the kind of attraction you would get towards your girlfriend or your boyfriend - your spouse or your partner, or potential love interests, if that makes sense. The things I find attractive on them, I want. Not to experience, but to own. I was confused about my sexuality for a long time in my life, because I found both sexes to be attractive, and I didn't really start to really become interested in sex until a year and a half ago. I thought that, because I looked at other guys the way I did, I couldn't be straight. I never spoke to anyone about them. But because of the reaction that I get from women as opposed to men I find to be attractive, that's what inclines me to label myself as such, especially now that I'm interested in sex as much as I am.

    You can't choose what you're attracted to, just like you can't really choose what you video games, movies, or music you like, or choose the effects your attractions have on you. You just do. You know? That's how I feel when I'm trying to describe my attraction. I don't know why I like something I like. I just do. I don't know why I'm attracted to the things that I am. I don't know why I consider girl A to be attractive and girl B to not be. I'm just attracted to things about girl A that aren't part of girl B. So I'm afraid I can't really tell you why I find them to be attractive, but I do. That's not to say I don't know what I like about girl A, physically. But I don't know the rationalization behind my attraction, which is what I feel you're asking. There are just things I find aesthetically pleasing about her that stimulate me. I don't know why I'm not stimulated the same way with a man I find attractive.
     
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    Easy to be an homophobe when you are at the other side are you? You did not answer the questions above that are the point of the discussion but I guess you directly gave your answer. You can discuss what things you like about women then and why would you never consider a man. That's all. If you for whatever reason do not like the idea of homosexuality then explain in your own words.

    I wont hide myself to everyone that comes with your actitude because that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! That tires me out so no this thread is staying. Aswell as all the other gay people who are just trying to make sense out of straight people.

    Seriously. This is the type of people who I've grown resentment to. You know a group of people can only handle so much hatered. When trying to normalize the state of being you much share your hatred with the ones that made you carry it in the first place. In other words I want to shoot your kind. I wish you were all gay. If I was to be born by where you live I would help you get tortured and feel bad about your sexuality despite myself being gay. I will make every man you like hate you. I would physically abuse your homophobic kind and bend your minds to the beauty of loving one's gender. If I was Lucy Fur. I would personally like to see you burn in Hell. May your privelage light turn into a dark bloody hell, and... I'm pretty much done here. That's how you sound. I really don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about what your kind has to say. I'm vaccined against homphobes. Have a nice day! :)

    I see you have a profile to keep in this place. Very well I assume this rant is part of your character.

    Yeah this is only a response for this guy not anybody else.

    I realize that you're fairly new and Drakow isn't as active as he used to be, but I've never known him to be genuinely homophobic...he just likes to say controversial things for the sake of making a point. In this case the hypocrisy of making the non-absolute statement, "No one is 100% gay or 100% straight" followed by the decidedly more absolute statement "no one will judge anyone here". ^_^;
     
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    Um idk why I'm straight I just find myself sexually attracted to men and not women. I'm not repulsed by females I just don't get aroused by them. I have experimented with girls before though and I enjoyed it, but I felt no attraction.

    I guess I love the masculinity in a man and some appendages hehe. It's strange, but I find the sexiest thing in a man is when he breaks in front of me or what I mean is more like when he shows me his soft side.
     

    lozzop

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    These are a pretty complicated questions for me haha XD I'm pansexual, so I'm attracted to all genders and sexualities, male, female, transgender, straight, gay and all the other ones :) Basically it means you're happy to fall in love with whom you fall in love with, whatever they may appear on the outside, regardless of gender, sex and sexuality, which means I'm attracted to personality a lot as well. Expanding on Doctor's post, when i see a picture of a beautiful woman I usually have pretty conflicted feelings, because I probably don't know what their personality is, half of me is like, 'oh she's so pretty I want to be like her and know more about her', and then the other half of me is like 'I wanna hit that thing'. I find it strange that people can only love a woman or only love a man, I could never choose between them and everybody I see I have the potential to become sexually attracted to, depending on their personality, like Aerial Ace said, you don't know why you're attracted to somebody a part from a few clues, certain specifications about them you enjoy. Being a human is weird guys. :)
     

    T The Manager

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    Why do you like the opposite sex? Easy, I'm not attracted to the same sex. I like women and only women but I do have a handful of male friends.

    What is so attractive about them? Everything. Literally, everything.

    How did you realised you liked the opposite sex? Don't remember, maybe that first time I looked into a girls beautiful eyes?

    Why won't you chose your own gender even if it's just to experiment? Because I'm attracted to the opposite sex (women) and I can't degrade myself by experimenting with the same sex.

    Or how do you know about without even trying? I don't

    What is so repulsive about your own gender even though you have the same genitals and appearence of your own gender? I never thought about this and I'm in no way disgusted by the same sex I just couldn't see myself doing anything sexual or pre sexual with the same sex. Whether I got a stick and balls or not it doesn't mean I'm disgusted by it, i'd just rather see my own and not other males if that makes sense.

    Does it mean if you look at a mirror you are grossed out at your own appearence? No, I like my appearance because I gotta stay looking top notch and fresh for women. Just because I'm strait doesn't mean I'm grossed out I just don't swing that way, that's all.

    Now to all the gay people in here. I'm not against you being gay it's just that I'm not gay. You can be gay and I wont think nothing of it.
     

    TRIFORCE89

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    1. why do you like the opposite sex? What is so attractive about them?
    However I feel about the female form, and why, is probably about the same for you and males. It makes sense and feels natural to me. If you need some actual reasons, I dunno... they're different. Which makes them intriguing and enticing. Soft, beautiful, curvy. Which is pleasing.

    Beyond the physical, I just generally find women - at least those that I know - to be more mature and intelligent. And those are desirable qualities for me in a potential partner.

    2. How did you realised you liked the opposite sex?
    I've held crushes on the opposite sex since I was in kindergarten. lol And that never changed.

    3. Why won't you chose your own gender even if it's just to experiment? Or how do you know about without even trying?
    Well.... you shouldn't be "choosing", you should just know. Nothing about males has ever struck my fancy in that way. I don't need to try to know that.

    4. What is so repulsive about your own gender even though you have the same genitals and appearence of your own gender? Does it mean if you look at a mirror you are grossed out at your own appearence?
    I don't think my gender's repulsive or gross. I'm just not interested. I don't think one has to be preferred and the other despised. Just... there. Does nothing for me. I know myself and my gender. I don't need to explore it through someone else.
     
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    Umm, that's actually a ma'am, not a sir. I do agree that it was a hilarious way to sum up an issue. Some people find sexual attraction in men, others in women, a few in both, it's as simple as that.

    There's probably some coding in our genetics that determines what will appeal to us, what you are pre-determined to be moreso than what you learn.

    ShiningRaichu's DNA dictates that he is 100% a fan of the ♥♥♥♥ as much as I am of beavers. Overwhelming answers in the thread seem to dictate that we have no choice in our sexuality, it just is the way it is. I can't really understand how gays (particularly men) could like their own gender but they probably feel the same about me liking women, we can agree to disagree.

    My apologies ma'am ;P. Attraction is strange for me as it is everyone else though. I took one look at my last woman and that was it, I wanted her. Found out later she had great personality to go with. A guy with a guy and a girl with a girl isn't a strange thought for me though, I've been asked many times if I'd experiment with another guy.. Although I said no, I never would rule it out. Is that gay? I dunno, but for me, it's all normal. I just love the touch and the feelings I get from another human.
     

    Shining Raichu

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    I had a report to move this thread to D&D because it was discussiony but I ignored it because I felt it fit here too, but I don't want it anymore so I'm gonna shoot it off there where it can flourish into a discussion about the nature of attraction.
     

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    Eh, I don't really know why I'm attracted to women, I just am. I imagine the reasons are similar to why gays and lesbians are attracted to the same sex...something chemical.
     
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    1. Why do you like the opposite sex? What is so attractive about them?
    I like feeling masculine. I'm rather skinny and don't have all too much muscle so most guys could overpower me physically. I like the femininity that women have, the way they are naturally less physically impressive and how they like to be the 'little spoon'.
    I guess the normal ways guys are attracted to girls as well, the primal sexual urges that arise from a woman's physicality in order to reproduce. I sort of categorise all males as men regardless of their sexual orientation and therefore they don't interest me as a sexual option.

    2. How did you realised you liked the opposite sex?
    At first I just assumed it was how it was, I never though about alternate sexualities. I just liked girls from the start and it wasn't until I noticed homosexuality specifically that I started thinking about sexuality. I'll admit I did experiment to a small degree with guys, but it definitely made me uncomfortable to be even a little bit sexual with a dude. I imagine it to be similar to how a gay guy feels when he is getting sexual with a girl.

    3. Why won't you chose your own gender even if it's just to experiment? Or how do you know about without even trying?
    I have always sort of disregarded empathy, and therefore shrugged off any influence about other people's personal bias, so despite having a homophobic father I was open to new things without real fear of consequence. I mean I had to discover for myself what was so "wrong" about it. So I did, and I concluded that it wasn't for me.

    4. What is so repulsive about your own gender even though you have the same genitals and appearance of your own gender? Does it mean if you look at a mirror you are grossed out at your own appearance?
    It has nothing to do with appearances, I don't find the human body repulsive male or female. I can comfortably say "wow that guy is so gorgeous" and still have no sexual intention towards him. Instead I take an analytical stance and try and see why he's attractive because maybe I can adapt that into me.
    I actually like my body most of the time, I go through brief phases where I'll feel particularly sexy and it impacts my self-esteem to a massive degree.

    I have always wondered, is it possible for someone who is homosexual to be turned on by the image of themselves? Like mirrors, infinite amounts of pornography or is it less exciting than I imagine?
     
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