Session Start: Sun Dec 14 00:34:58 2008
Session Ident: #tpc-romhacking
* Now talking in #tpc-romhacking
* Topic is 'Spam and Die!<3 | The Official Pokecommunity ROM Hacking Channel | 13RHN Issue 15 Out Now |
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=4178840&postcount=282 '
* Set by Cierra on Sat Dec 13 21:30:37
<&Thrace> ;_;
<&Thrace> ok
<&Thrace> well
<&Thrace> please continue
<&Britney_Spears> So
<&Britney_Spears> all we have to do
<&Britney_Spears> Is wait for Kyledove's permission to use the tiles?
<+interdpth> Lol
<+interdpth> I hope they read all the r rules :(
<&Thrace> yup
<&Thrace> @Luke
<&Thrace> anyways
<&Britney_Spears> Alright
<&Thrace> whenever you want to start interdpth
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<+interdpth> Well uh
<+interdpth> HEY WHO IS ACTIVE RIGHT NOW?
<megiddo> me
<element> me
<&Thrace> me
<+interdpth> Ok
<+interdpth> Uh
<megiddo> I'll summon jssse
<megiddo> jesse*
<+interdpth> Let me decide the lesson plan
<megiddo> kk
<element> oh so this is a class?
<Jesse> I'm here
<+interdpth> Let me verify my toolset
<Lone> me
<Lone> now
<+interdpth> Everyone got ruby ready?
<megiddo> no
<+interdpth> liek if u aint pirate
<Lone> ys
<element> for what>
<+interdpth> din get duh fck outz
<Lone> why ruby
<Lone> :(
<+interdpth> Because
<element> what is happening?
<+interdpth> I'm using Ruby.
<Lone> i'm loggin' this<censored>
<~Sotomura> For the note
<~Sotomura> The swear filter is on
<~Sotomura> Any way around it = temp. ban
<Lone> ok?
<Lone> >_>
<Lone> Anywho
<Lone> Ruby, ready
<element> What is happening?
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<Lone> hex editing class element
<+interdpth> So I can curse all I want and it'll be censored?
<element> oh okay *downloads ruby*
<+interdpth> Like
<&Thrace> no
<&Thrace> don't curse
<+interdpth> I curse
<+interdpth> I've always cursed ;(
<+interdpth> Ask Soto
<~Sotomura> That I acknowledge
<&Thrace> everyone is ready now interdpth
<~Sotomura> However, it's simply not tolerated
<&Thrace> please continue
<~Sotomura> D;
<+interdpth> I will curse allow me too for dis class and i'll watch myself after
<element> should I use hex workshop or hexecute?
<megiddo> I have ruby ready now
<+interdpth> We will be using this toolset
<+interdpth>
https://interdpth.arc-nova.org/Tools.zip
<Jesse> I has ruby
<Jesse> Cos I rule
<Jesse> Wait
<Jesse> Ah nvm
<+interdpth> We're going straight in to finding and editing compressed graphics
<Jesse> Alright
<+interdpth> Eew jitters
<+interdpth> One sec
<~Sotomura> interdpth...
<~Sotomura> Is that copy of hex workshop hacked? :|
<element> k im ready
<~Sotomura> I'll warn you now
<+interdpth> Only if you follow the instructions
<+interdpth> 8D
<~Sotomura> But if I catch you giving warez instructions
<~Sotomura> Or downloads
<+interdpth> I'm not
<Lone> what the heck is mzm
<Lone> anywho
<Lone> continue
<+interdpth> This is the set I used for my last class
<+interdpth> So bleh
<+interdpth> Anyway
<megiddo> still downloading
<+interdpth> We will be looking for the title screen
<+interdpth> Let me grab it's number so we can edit that
<+interdpth> This lesson will cover finding GFX
<+interdpth> er lz compressed GFX
<+interdpth> editing reinserting
<+interdpth> Then reinserting a bigger picture and repointing with a hex editor
<&Thrace> awesome :D
<Lone> !
<megiddo> :P
<+interdpth> This is stupid easy
<element> should be usefull
<+interdpth> So you'll be getting what takes some people years to understand in an hour or two
<Jesse> Sounds kewlkats
<Lone> xd
<+interdpth> Who's scared of hex editing and the dread LZ COMPRESSION
<+interdpth> ?
<+interdpth> Oh blah
<megiddo> xp
<+interdpth> mzm.zip shouldn't've been in there
<Jesse> Rofl
<+interdpth> Just delete that folks
<Lone> y
<Lone> what is it
<Lone> ;x
<Jesse> Ur mum
<Jesse> Nah jk
<Jesse> I'll be good
<Lone> OH<censored>
<Lone> zero mission
<Lone> yes
06 * Lone keeps
<Jesse> Rofl
<+interdpth> That's what I hax
<megiddo> :P
<Jesse> Awesome
<Lone> I've been looking for this
<Lone> lol
<+interdpth> Crap
<+interdpth> I got a bad dump XD
<Lone> xd
<megiddo> :o
<element> this is more like a circus
<Lone> xd
<Jesse> Yeah
<+interdpth> Hence why I wanted to start at 7
<+interdpth> But oh well
<+interdpth> Give me a few minuts
<Jesse> Circuses are awesome
<+interdpth> minutes^
<Jesse> Rofl k
<megiddo> k
<Jesse> In that case, I'mma grab some food =D
<element> can I be one of those monkeys who craps on the crowed?
<element> crowd
<element> *
<Lone> okay guys
<Lone> can we be serious
<Lone> plz
<Lone> I'd like to actually learn something here
<Lone> ...not about monkeys crapping on circus crowds
<element> hes not here yet
<element> so
<Lone> Yeah I know
<Lone> But still
<Lone> >_>
<element> I might as well get a drink
<+interdpth> Why is VBA not working >_<
<Lone> your comp hates you
<megiddo> what's it doing
<element> crapping on the crowd
<+interdpth> There we go
<megiddo> :D
<Jesse> Back
<Jesse> mmmm
<Jesse> Pop
<Jesse> And beer
<Jesse> Rofl
<megiddo> Lol
<Jesse> Jk
<element> I have orange crush!
<Jesse> I has Dr. Pepper and Mountain Dew
<element> mixed with booze
<Jesse> Rofl
<Jesse> Mine's straight
<+interdpth> Ble
<+interdpth> h
<+interdpth> Ugl picture
<element> unlike yunghove
<+interdpth> Anyway
<+interdpth> Whenever one is ready let me know
<Jesse> I'm ready
<element> ready
<Lone> ready
<megiddo> same
<+interdpth> Alright
<+interdpth> Fire up the vba in the tool set and load ruby
<+interdpth> Click tools then click logging
<+interdpth> and check swi
<+interdpth> Then click ok
<+interdpth> Press A on the screen
<+interdpth> Then A once more and you should see the groudon
<+interdpth> Tell me when you're there
<megiddo> ther
<Jesse> There
<megiddo> there*
<+interdpth> And you seee a crapload of text in the window?
<megiddo> yep
<Jesse> no
<Jesse> Crap
<element> there
<element> no\
<Jesse> What the poop
<megiddo> logging window
<Lone> ...
<Lone> eh
<element> i dont see it
<Lone> It's under tools
<Lone> click Loggin
<Jesse> I see nothing
<Lone> uh
<Lone> what the hell
<Lone> When I load up Ruby it brings a giant white scren
<Lone> *screen
<+interdpth>
https://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/3/12/13/f_untitledm_db9333f.png simiar
<Jesse> Rofl
<Lone> It normally works
<Lone> o_o
<Jesse> Crashed
<element> crashed
<+interdpth> Similar
<+interdpth> Put the rom in a different directory then vba
<+interdpth> and try
<+interdpth> that's what I had to do
<Jesse> This is bull
<element> k now it worked
<Lone> it already is
<Lone> >_>
<megiddo> :D
<Jesse> I don't see any text in the damn window
<Jesse> Same with me
<+interdpth> You're using the one from the toolset right?
<Lone> yes
<+interdpth> And you clicked ok
<element> keep the logging window open
<megiddo> is this vbadsl-h?
<+interdpth> Before getting to the groudon screen
<+interdpth> No
<megiddo> kk
<+interdpth> It's VBA developer edition
<megiddo> ah
<Jesse> Oh
<Lone> It just brings a white screen when I load the rom
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<megiddo> :/
<Lone> not even getting to logging
<Lone> it all works
<~Sotomura> How good is No$GBA as a debugger?
<Lone> but white screen comes up and nothing happens
<+interdpth> Put the rom in a different directory
<+interdpth> Soto: Amazing
<Jesse> This is bull
<Jesse> hmm
<Lone> same thing
<element> then the rom is<censored>
<element> wait
<Lone> it works fine on my other VBA
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<element> wasnt that cencored?
<Lone> ys
<element> oh
<element> not for me\
<+interdpth> Ok
<+interdpth> Well
<+interdpth> we learned how to do that
<+interdpth> >_>
<+interdpth> Now
<+interdpth> Well
<+interdpth> I still need to explain
<+interdpth> For those that don't work
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<+interdpth> Wait until I give you guys the go ahead to join us
<+interdpth> For the ones that the logging did work for
<+interdpth> Please open up note pad
<+interdpth> Right click the logging window where the text is
<megiddo> k
<+interdpth> right click, select all and copy
<+interdpth> then paste into notepad tell me when you're done
<megiddo> done
<element> done
<liger66> can c\some one help my i think i stuffed the time zone conversion
<+interdpth> Are you here for the class?
<liger66> and im a bit late
<liger66> yea
<+interdpth> We actually began earlier then supposed too
<Lone> oh
<Lone> that roms crap
<megiddo> LZ77UnCompVram: 0x08e9c798,0x06000000
<+interdpth> No
<Lone> but it works fine when i use it as a base for other things
<+interdpth> That's not what we want
<Lone> odd
<Lone> o_O
<megiddo> what is it
<+interdpth> Stop skipping
<megiddo> i'm just wondering
<+interdpth> Alrighht
<+interdpth> In note pad
<+interdpth> Go to the top
<megiddo> i'm there
<+interdpth> ctrl + f and type in LZ77UnCompVram
<+interdpth> Too get the area
<+interdpth> Now we want to know where the gfx decompressed too
<+interdpth> So go tools -> Map viewer
<+interdpth> BG0 obviously
<megiddo> done
<Jesse> Err
<Jesse> I'll jsut skip this thing
<+interdpth> We want the char base
<Jesse> Cos the stupid VBA is<censored>
<Jesse> :P
<+interdpth> 0x6008000
<megiddo> :P
<+interdpth> Jesse this part is almost over
<Jesse> k
<+interdpth> So look for that in one of the LZ things
<+interdpth> And you'll find LZ77UnCompVram: 0x08393250,0x06008000
<megiddo> the nlz tool?
<element> k found it
<+interdpth> To the ones it didn't work
<+interdpth> You can join in now
<Jesse> ok
<+interdpth> One sec
<+interdpth> We have a new guy
<Jesse> k
<Jesse> liger?
<liger66> sorry
<+interdpth> yeah
<Jesse> If it wasn't for adam, I would have been late also
<Jesse> :P
<element> so what now?
<Jesse> Hold on
<Jesse> He's gotta tell liger what to do
<Lone> give me a few seconds and I can finally join
<element> oh okay sorry
<Jesse> :P
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<Jesse> hmm
<Lone> what the<censored>
<Lone> that rom's bad too
<Jesse> Is that another late person?
<Jesse> hmm
<gamefreak> me?
<megiddo> are you here for the lessons?
<wakachamo> lol, lessons
<gamefreak> kind of
<gamefreak> i just wanted to see what he was doing :)
<Jesse> I see
<+interdpth> Ok
<Jesse> And waka what's so funny?
<+interdpth> We'll just pot the log
<+interdpth> Anyway
<+interdpth> Open up nlz
<+interdpth> open up ruby
<+interdpth> Tell me whence
<megiddo> done
<element> it says I need network framework
<wakachamo> Jesse: And waka what's so funny?<-- do I even know you?
<Jesse> Done
<Jesse> You sure don't
<wakachamo> k, miss TB Pro
<+interdpth> Element
<+interdpth> Do you have unlz?
<+interdpth> Either will work
<element> yeah
<element> okay
<+interdpth> Just takes longer in unlz
<element> no matter
<+interdpth> Everybody navigate to 0x393250 in the respective lz thingies
<Lone> THERE
<Lone> finally
<megiddo> done
<Jesse> I cannot
<Jesse> :P
<+interdpth> Why so Jesse?
<Jesse> Uhh
<megiddo> is there a way to get a more normal palette
<Jesse> Oh, is this in NLZ?
<element> mine is like static on a tv
<+interdpth> Whichever you want to use
<Jesse> I thought you meant in Notepad:P
<element> is it right if it looks like tv static?
<megiddo> nope
<megiddo> it should look like groudon
<element> ill search for it
<Jesse> Yeah
<Jesse> It looks like groudon
<+interdpth> I'll wait
<Lone> thank god i'm copying this all or i'd be lost
<megiddo> :P
<Jesse> :P
<Lone> map viewer...
<element> found it
<Jesse> skip ahead
<Jesse> Open NLZ
<Jesse> And goto 393250
<Lone> k
<+interdpth> Ok
<Lone> ty
<+interdpth> Everyone see groudon's tiles
<Jesse> Yw
<element> yeah
<Lone> yes
<Jesse> Yep, i do.
<megiddo> ;)
<+interdpth> Alright
<+interdpth> Click Raw dump in nlz
<+interdpth> call it
<+interdpth> groudon.bin
<+interdpth> same for unlz
<Jesse> Done
<megiddo> done
<element> done
<+interdpth> Now let's use Tile Molestor from teh toolset
<Jesse> Mkay
<element> lol molestor
<+interdpth> Molester^
<megiddo> have to extract it
<+interdpth> Open groundoun.bin
<Jesse> Hold on a sec
<element> I cant find it
<element> ill just download another one
<Lone> er
<Lone> Hold on
<Lone> I have a question
<Jesse> What the crap
<element> do we have to use tile molestor?
<Lone> can I close the notepad from earlier
<Jesse> I extracted it but it's not there rofl
<+interdpth> Yeah lone
<+interdpth> TM
<+interdpth> TLP
<+interdpth> YYCHR
<Lone> k
<+interdpth> Watever
<+interdpth> Just open it
<Jesse> Alright
<Jesse> I'm usin TLP
<+interdpth> and draw a nice smilie face somewhere on groudon
<+interdpth> or something and save
<EarthsVisitor> o.o
<megiddo> goto all files
<Jesse> What the crap
<megiddo> in tm
<megiddo> what codec
<Jesse> It's not the same thing
<Jesse> Lol
<EarthsVisitor> Started early?
<element> it wont take the groudon
<megiddo> it opened mine
<Jesse> Mine too\
<Jesse> But
<Jesse> It
<Jesse> 's not the same
<+interdpth> -.-
<+interdpth> OK
<Jesse> It's all these weird green lines Rofl
<+interdpth> WE LEARN SOMETHING
<element> it doesnt support
<element> bin
<Jesse> All files
<+interdpth> -.-
<Jesse> Click all files
<+interdpth> Just rename it to GBA
<megiddo> 4 bpp reverse?
<megiddo> or something else
<+interdpth> Yeah
<megiddo> i see it now
<megiddo> :P
<element> not the same
<megiddo> saved
<Lone> k
<Lone> got it
<+interdpth> Element what's wrong?
<Jesse> Yeah Element I feel ya
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06 * +interdpth has to diagonose all problems so others don't get confused
<element> it's like static
