Which Sounds Better?

[Johny_Hungry]

Marowak [I love this pokemon!]
Item: Thick Club
EV's: 4 Hp 252 Attk 252 Spd
Nature: Joly [+Spd. -Sp. Atk] Adamant [+Atk, -Sp Atk]
Moves:
[]EarthQuake []Double Edge
[]Stone Edge []Fire Punch/Focus Punch

OR:

Item: Thick Club
EV's: 4 Hp 252 Attk 252 Spd
Nature: Joly [+Spd. -Sp. Atk] Adamant [+Atk, -Sp Atk]
Moves:
[]Earth Quake
[]Double Edge/Fire Punch/ Stone Edge
[]Sword Dance
[]Double Edge/Fire Punch/ Stone Edge


Some other moves [to replace some of them if one would recomend them]
Bonemerang
Thunder Punch
Rock Slide

Both Natuers should be Rock Head but my question is, which one seems better?

I think the first one seems best, but finding both those natures have been a pain in the ass, like seriously! Is there any easy way to get the needed nature for a pokemon? Eh, just which one sounds better to ya?

 

[MewthreeXL]

Ditto with desired nature + everstone.

 

[Iceman3k]

Unless you have access to Emerald, then Fire Punch shouldn't be in that listing. Anyway, go with the second set. It's important to pack Swords Dance in case they want to try to Physical Wall it.

Also, keep in mind that Marowak will not work effectively without Speed BPed to it.

 

[Johny_Hungry]

Ditto with desired nature + everstone.

Huh?

What'll that do for meh?

 

[Shiraishi]

A female pokemon(or Ditto) with everstone makes the chances of getting the nature passed down 50%. Thats why most people have Dittos for every nature.

 

[Johny_Hungry]

OK, ok, thats good to know... now i gotta hunt down some dittos... geeze this is gonna take a while.

 

[sims796]

Don't underestimate Bone Club. Same power as Earthquake, plus the power to break weak subs & do damage, at the cost of 10% accuracy.

 

[Arsibiyez]

Don't underestimate Bone Club. Same power as Earthquake, plus the power to break weak subs & do damage, at the cost of 10% accuracy.

Besides the flinch, EQ >>> Bone Club.
Bonemerang must be what you're saying. That's the one with potential to break subs and cause damage in the same turn.

 

[sims796]

Besides the flinch, EQ >>> Bone Club.
Bonemerang must be what you're saying. That's the one with potential to break subs and cause damage in the same turn.

HAhahah, yeah, Bonemerang, thanks for catching me.

Hey, Bone Club can do 65 damage! Weeeeee...

 

[Samson]

bonemarang is still pointless anyway as most pokes who set up subs are faster than marowak and will get what they wanted to get done achieved.

 

[Nacon]

but you'll still inflict damage on 'em... heck.. you have a chance of KO'ing 'em.. with the exception of the BP tanks out there.

 

[Iceman3k]

bonemarang is still pointless anyway as most pokes who set up subs are faster than marowak and will get what they wanted to get done achieved.

Even if they cracked the first attack and Subbed first, Marowak will still break the Sub, then do additional Damage if it's powerful enough.

 

[Arsibiyez]

It's pretty much the point that without enough speed, you'll be slower than a lot of opponent's subbing Pokemon. The trick would be to deal 75 base damage (including STAB) and attempt to destroy the sub, and deal another 75 base damage to the Pokemon behind it. But if Wak had any Speed BP'd to it, then EQ would be the more apt move to use.

 

[Johny_Hungry]

Honestly though... it is the EQ that im leanin more towards. Its more powerful, and has been one of my all time fav moves.

Bonemerang though is amazin, maybe i'll run it in place of fire punc/focus pucn/etc. on the first set. I mean with the Thick Club doublin Marowak's attack i really dont think sword dance is needed, errr more along the lines of, i really wouldn't want to waste the turn increasing attack, just pull of a switch out.

 

[Arsibiyez]

When you look at it mathematically, EQ and Bonemerang have the same total damage. Both result in a total of 150 power. It's just that Bonemerang hits twice, and each time has a chance of becoming a critical hit. But the catch is that Bonemerang's accuracy is only 90. The point is, both moves have their pros and cons, so the final decision will still be up to you.

 

[Johny_Hungry]

Why not run both?
I mean sacraficing the fighting or fire attack wouldn't be that much of a cost, would it?

 

[Iceman3k]

Why not run both?
I mean sacraficing the fighting or fire attack wouldn't be that much of a cost, would it?

Except it's stupid and pointless to run 2 of the same type attack on one Pokemon. Also, Fire Blast stays on hand to deal with Skarmory / Forretress / Bronzong and other Steel Types that don't take a lot of damage from Ground.

 

[sims796]

When you look at it mathematically, EQ and Bonemerang have the same total damage. Both result in a total of 150 power. It's just that Bonemerang hits twice, and each time has a chance of becoming a critical hit. But the catch is that Bonemerang's accuracy is only 90. The point is, both moves have their pros and cons, so the final decision will still be up to you.

You forgot, Bonemerang (NOT Bone Club :P) has the power to break weak Subs, while doing damage. Great for those who are planning to Subpass.

 

[˚° ﺎ ﮟ סּ ﻛ °˚]

bonemarang is still pointless anyway as most pokes who set up subs are faster than marowak and will get what they wanted to get done achieved.

not realy

alot of snorlax movesets use substitute and focus punch

and u could screw up any poke thats using focus punch with bonemarang