Wow, cluelessness rules supreme...o.o I'm afraid that I have no choice but to comment.
First of all, let's not have all this nonsense about including first-stage/baby pokémon, you might feel awfully clever about it but it's painfully obvious that they are (with a couple of exceptions) inferior to their evolved counterparts. Now to move on...
enyce said:
piggey evolves into pidgeotto and pidgeot. SO nothing is wrong wit pidgey and it evolves quite fast.
And that helps how, exactly? If you want to talk weak, made-to-be-forgotten pokémon then Pidgeot is a very good place to start. It has a hopelessly weak statline for a 3rd stage pokémon in which the only good stat is the Speed which is, unfortunately, more or less out of the window because of the medicore Attack stat and narrow movepool...Aerial Ace, Steel Wing, and Double-Edge are just about all of the effective (or at least semi-effective) moves you can stick on a Pidgeot outside of the influence of BattleNet/Cheat programs. I think this one is near the very bottom of the list. -.-
enyce said:
I thought snorlax was something else, but hes good.
Rattata is not worth it for hyper fang, Lugia is a good pokemon, aeroblast is worth it. Parasect, i never ever ever ever have a pokemon with quad weaknesses on me. With the exception for Charizard and Dragonite. Parasects death is guranteeed with a fire move, charizard would be killed with a rock move. Dragonite is dead with some ice. Parasect is a useless pokemon with a good attack thats all. Same goes for rattata.
Of course you don't train Raticate for Hyper Fang...Super Fang possibly, if you've got the strategy for it, but not Hyper Fang (80 power, 90 accuracy, minor flinch chance). However, Raticate is a decent, easy-to-raise, early-game sweeper with a commendably wide movepool. It's not the best, but it does its job.
enyce said:
Miltank isnt worth my time either.
Yeah, most N00Bs tend to think that. Miltank is actually a formidable tank/cleric pokémon since it's capable of learning both the HP recovery move Milk Drink and the status recovery move Heal Bell and has enough defenses and HP to keep it alive as well as a fair range of physical moves (Earthquake, Body Slam/Return/Double-edge, Shadow Ball, Brick Break) and an above-average Attack stat to make use of them. Furthermore, the Thick Fat trait works wonders from a defensive perspective since it halves damage from both Fire and Ice attacks. It's not quite on par with Snorlax, but certainly a top-notch pokémon, and completely out of the league of over-appreciated ones like Pidgeot which you seem so keen on defending.
enyce said:
Ursaring??? Who the hell is ursaring? did you really have to pull every normal type you know?. Is that the bear who evolves from teddiursa? I dont even use clefable like that anyway.
Wow...that comment makes you sound like you really know what you're talking about. Yeah, Ursaring is the evolved form of Teddiursa and happen to possess a tremendous Attack stat as well the 'Guts' trait. If you'd ever been hit by a Sleep Talking Ursaring, you'd know not to take them too lightly. Once again, this isn't one of the best due to the lack of Speed and Defenses, but it's once again far from the worst.
enyce said:
Most of the time, my team is. Charmeleon/Typlosion, Blastoise, Raichu, Espeon, Houndoom (because its a dark type), Venusaur..... In the older GSC series. I dont know anything about the 3rd generation.....I stopped after the second
Dont tell me when you play pokemon you pack a team full of normal types?
Any intelligent player uses a wide variety of types, but only a fool dismisses a whole large range of pokémon species without every giving them a try. And anyway, using Charmeleon...if it isn't for sentimental reasons then it's not a good move. You might think of it as an oh-so-clever way of avoiding the 4x Rock weakness of Charizard, but the fact of the matter is that Zard's significantly better statline, slightly wider movepool, and immunity to Earthquake far outweigh that penalty. Also, Espeon isn't really all that great since it's got a very poor movepool for a special sweeper (Psychic is the only one from its learnset that does real damage ingame) and doesn't really have the moves or stats for anything else. I have one on my team, but only out of nostalgia...not because I think it's T3H L33T PKMN 111oneoneone!!!
Light Azumarill said:
I know this was said a while back but... I can't take it!!
Lanturn is totally NOT the worst pokemon. And neither is Azumarill. Both of which were spelled wrong in the original post. -.- I mean come on... that's saying that Stantler is a better pokemon than those two... or that Sentret is... or Pichu and Smoochum. Gimme a break.
Sorry Melissa, but you chose a very poor first example of a pokémon weaker than Lanturn and Azumarill. It's actually got a fair deal of most stats, as well as a quite decent selection of physical moves (Earthquake/ Return/Shadow Ball, anyone?) and furthermore, the additional benefit of Hypnosis is a nice way of disrupting your opponent's team. I'd say it's about on par with Lanturn, perhaps slightly weaker...but I'd say that there are better examples of significantly weaker pokémon, such as Furret and Pidgeot, which would have served better. However, I still support the core of your argument. Lanturn kicks buttocks! XO It's got a whopping 125 base HP which lets it hold its own, despite a slightly-below-average Defense and an average Sp.Defense, and it's movepool is great (Surf, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, and Confuse Ray are all quite useful). Finally, the STAB it gets for Thunderbolt gives it an edge against other Water types while the 'Volt Absorb' trait protects it from electric attacks and it still has STAB on Surf which can be used to OHKO incoming Ground types. Overall, Lanturn is a well-rounded pokémon, which is why some people use it on NetBattle, even outside of the UU metagame.
As for Azumarill...it might look neglectable at first glance, but the 'Huge Power' trait (50% extra Attack) combined with its slightly above average defenses and high HP (100 in the base-stat) and lack of weaknesses due to its pure Water type makes it a quite formidable foe. The movepool could use some improvement, but Azumarill still has its uses and is most certainly not among the weakest.
Xtacy said:
...and Lugia is the only one who uses Aeroblast. And Parasect was the only one who learned Spore. These are all worthless attacks?
Correction, Breloom and Smeargle can also learn Spore, and both do are better choices than Parasect. Personally, I think it looks cool, but its type combination puts it at a horrible disadvantage (4x weakness against Fire and Flying, 2x Weakness against Rock, Poison and Ice with only a o.25 resistance against grass and a 0.5 resistance against Water and Fighting to compensate) and the statline is quite lacking. The horrible movepool isn't helping either, Spore is cool, but it lacks any proper physical moves with which to take advantage of the time the opponent spends in sleep while simultaneously possessing a weak Sp.Attack which criples what few Grass moves it can learn. Strongest STAB moves are Fury Cutter and Giga Drain...enough said...-.- As for Lugia's Aeroblast...it's a bleeding waste. =\ Lugia's Sp.Attack is a good bit higher than it's Attack, and since it's more defensively-minded anyway (Toxic, Recover, and Whirlwind are popular and effective move choices) that last slot tends to go to either Psychic or Ice Beam since they are more useful.
However, although I don't see the relevance between Metronome being a crappy attack and Clefable's power, said pokémon is inferior to Wigglytuff, in my opinion, since Wigglytuff has a much higher HP, making it an ideal candidate for baiting physical attackers with Counter. Clefable is mainly useful in double battle where the 'Follow Me' move (all opponents' attacks are targeted on the user) combined with its solid HP and defenses make it great for diverting attacks while you set up its partner for sweeping.
GreatLiver said:
Game wise I'd say Dunsparce just because it's plain, boring and bad. The only people who like it were those kids in the one episode that were ubsessed about them.
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Tremble, heretic. I shall devour your soul. >E Dunsparce is one of my very favourite pokémon (mostly appearance-wise ^-^) and certainly not boring! It's statline is pretty weak, yeah, but the 'Serene Grace' trait (Doubles the success chance for all 'added effect' attacks, Rock Slide, Body Slam etc.) open up some interesting opportunities. Ever tried to land a hit on a Dunsparce that's hit you into paralysis with a Body Slam (60% chance of causing it, 25% of preventing attack), followed it up with Attract (50% chance of preventing attack) and then started bombarding its now slower opponent with Rock Slide (60% flinch chance)? It's quite deadly...o.o
Jorah said:
Definatly Magikarp, the only moves it can learn are splash and flail. Yeah, that's going to defeat everything. And Woboffet, I think the only attack it can use is counter? Pikachu is kind of annoying, I bet everyone who watched the programme first and bought the game later thought that it could beat everything, which obviously it can't.
Dude, you are so missinformed. Wobbuffet can use both Counter and Mirror Coat, which, in effect, covers all direct attacks except for special attacks from Dark types and physical attacks from Ghost types. It can also learn Safeguard which protects it from status attacks and Encore to force opponents onto a specific move and so provide cover for a switch, has its signature trait 'Shadow Tag' which prevents opponents from switching out while its active, and possess a godly HP which lets it soak up attacks like no-one's bussiness. Wobbuffet weak? Don't make me laugh, as far as I know it's the only non-legendary pokémon which has been labled Uber. In fact, it's considered stronger than both the legendary cats (I won't stand any of this 'dog' nonsense) and the legendary birds.
2356 said:
TboneShukle, In Pokemon XD It Sux Badly, Its Attacks Are Really Weak And Pointless.
And have you ever considered that it might have been meant for something else than just straight-out attacking? <.< Shuckle is weak in XD since that game is mainly centered around double battles while Shuckle is at its best in a one-on-one stall. Yes, it's attack stats are absolutely horrendous, but its defenses are the highest in the game (Way higher than even the oh-so-famous Defense Deoxys) which makes it quite a tough nut to crack. The base HP is disgracefully low, however, which limits Shuckle's power, but with Toxic, Encore, Wrap, and Rest it's still quite a strong fighter in its own right. And incidentally, even Shuckle can work in physical attacking to some degree, I tried. And I'll have you know that my CB Shuckle in Netbattle once KOed a standard Celebi. There's 'weakest pokémon' for you. =P
As for you Feebas bashers...you need to die so bad. Feebas is cute and lovable and huggable and-and it's certainly better than Magikarp! xO ybur_angel would have your hides for slandering the poor little fishies, but since she's incapacitated at the moment I'm afraid that I shall have to do a little substitute work. *Pulls out borrowed blue cheese bazooka and fires it at all Feebas bashers* EAT CHEESE! >O
Ahem, back on topic...Feebas has a pretty weak statline, yeah, but its ability to learn a fair amount of TM, HM, and eggy moves still places it above the very worst fighters, and as it so happens, certain people have beaten the Emerald Pokémon League using only Feebas, so in your faces. =P Anyhow, training a Feebas is more about style than power. ^-^
Finally...Luvdisc, I agree, if I had to pick a single worst it would probably be that one. Now for personal reasons I hate Spinda more, but since that little mutant rabbit is better in a fight, I'll go for Luvdisc here. It's got a very stupid and unimaginative design which mostly makes it look like some kind of bean and it has nothing new to come with, be it by trait, type-combination or movepool. I wouldn't miss it if it was gone.
And that...should be enough ranting from me for a while. xD