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[jq]== Possible Origin ==
Would this bit of mine be appropriate to add to fun facts? It could probably use some editting. I tend to be guilty of run-on sentences. And it's really really long (although still not as long as everything I found regarding Yukari and Maribel) ~Tiamat
*The C64 version of the Album, "Dolls in Pseudo Paradise" depicts the murder of 7 of the 8 honest men who had come to Gensokyo by the only woman (a blonde woman) of the 8 honest men, after that blonde woman had stopped being human from hanging herself, that the "shrine maiden" (who officially is "probably Reimu", according to ZUN in the e-mails from ZUN's section of this wiki) thinks she saw before but can't remember. The blonde woman killed them because she wanted them to go back to the days when they were thieves and had fun. The popular version of the album reveals that this blonde human may have reincarnated into a younger human since then. Both show that she came from a western house in the forest (presumably the Forest of Magic). Could this be Alice's origins? For the part where she hanged herself (twice, actually), Alice kind of looks like a doll, herself, according to Perfect Memento, yet her spell cards include hanged hourai dolls. For the part where she lost her humanity, Perfect Memento states Alice is a youkai who once was human (it also states she became a youkai through training, but Akyu could be mistaken. Alernatively, it could be her training that allowed her to become a youkai instead of simply die after she hanged herself). For the murderer personality within her, Alice was caught by Aya possibly attempting to murder someone via a long distance spell which involved nailing your straw effigy to a tree (which is the same way the most wary of the 8 honest men was murdered) and had a particularly terrifying expression as she did it. The blonde woman and the most cowardly of the 8 honest men are one and the same (it is the coward who is the final one in the end, and that lost her humanity), and Alice is officially acknowledged to be a coward at heart. Before hanging herself a second time, the coward thinks back and the whole murder feels like a dream, and Bohemian Archive (Eirin's article) reveals that Alice is taking a medicine from Eirin to soothe her dreams. The murderer only wanted the 8 honest men to go back to their fun thieving days, and Alice appears to have a particular attachment to a to a certain thief (Marisa). Finally, Reimu to this day has trouble remembering who Alice is despite meeting Alice before, which is the same thing that happened when the "shrine maiden" saw the blonde woman of the 8 honest men at the end of the story. That and the album is named "Dolls in Pseudo Paradise" (the paradise is revealed to be Gensokyo at the end). The only woman of the 8 honest men is seen heading towards the exit to paradise (Gensokyo), but that could be a reference to Alice going to Makai before returning to Gensokyo again. Alice Margatroid's last name is also a reference to a character from a murder mystery, which is what the story of the 8 honest men is about. Long story short, the story of Dolls in Pseudo Paradise (of a girl who came to Gensokyo with 7 other men, lost her humanity, and killed them all while in a state of subconscious because she missed the old days when they were thieves) could actually be Alice's origins.
::That's a pretty huge text wall you got there. As informative as it is, unfortunately, it's not very widespread and would probably be too verbose for most people.
::However, I found this long unused [[Contemplations]] page. It doesn't get much attention right now, but it would be the most appropriate place to dump all those plausible theories of yours. ~~~~[/jq]
Response on a wiki talk page. Final response is different. Had to copy and paste it to move it to the bottom of the page for chronological consistency.