Well, obviously, everyone here should
adore remakes - we play
the exact same game every generation! [/rimshot...fizzles] (It's like they're
remakes and
Updated Rereleases simultaneously! >_>)
As you know, a lot of games recently are remade. With the newest remake to be announced being Zelda: Ocarina of Time for the 3DS. I think it's good to have remakes of games, but you might have your own opinions on them.
What are your views on game remakes?
As I said before, I think it's a good idea to remake those games which people really loved for newer consoles. The way I feel though, is that only certain games can be remade. You can remake a Zelda Game, or Starfox, but you can't really remake a game like Call of Duty for something else.
Sigh...OK, remakes are usually great works to be enjoyed. Typically, they are released in commemoration of a game's anniversary, whether it be 10th, 25th,
50th, 100th, etc. I can accept that. However, it gets to be slightly annoying when remakes are spawned like there is no tomorrow.
Final Fantasy 1 is the prime example. What is it, nearly
seven different versions of the thing? Actually, I'm glad it
did get remade in
Final Fantasy: Dawn of Souls, or otherwise I might have never gotten to play it. The PSP version does look purty...but I think it should be a while before the original
Final Fantasy 1 is touched again. It's been rereleased, remade, and ported
enough times as of now. -.- Actually, this may just be due to Square Enix's "remake" tendency...
In any case, remakes
can be good in that newer generations can experience older games that they might otherwise never have a chance to play. Along with
Dawn of Souls,
Pokemon FireRed Version has let me experience Kanto, and hopefully I can traverse Johto via
Pokemon HeartGold Version. The upcoming
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3DS will also achieve a similar thing for me by permitting me to access Hyrule in its
Ocarina of Time state.
However, I kind of have a slight issue with "remake ports"...
Super Mario 64 DS,
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3DS, and
StarFox 64 3DS best match this description. They are full-fledged
handheld remakes of
console games. Personally, I think that
SM64DS should have been either a Gamecube or a Wii game, with
LoZOoT3DS and
SF643DS being either Wii games or Project Cafe games. It just seems to be fitting and more experience-enhancing for them to be played on consoles, as they were originally console-ish experiences...
Especially concerning
Ocarina of Time - after having played
Twilight Princess on the Wii with motion controls, it's going to be
quite weird returning to analog controls setup, especially concerning a game that was originally a console release and could possibly benefit from the same motion controls. I guess it's just me, though. :/ I'm glad that
Ocarina of Time and
Star Fox 64 are getting remade on
some platform, at least. And an
Ocarina of Time Wii would
possibly interfere with
Skyward Sword's debut, anyway...
Sigh...anyway, I enjoyed
The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past and
Final Fantasy 1 as GBA handheld experiences, yet
those were originally released as console games, so I guess I can't nitpick too much.
And yeah, a
Call of Duty remake would just seem weird. :x
I greatly welcome remakes if I never played the original version, like Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen and HeartGold/SoulSilver. I also like remakes because of the improved graphics.
But sometimes the remakes are necessary. Sometimes the game is so old or is a console exclusive that not many people can obtain. A sucessful remake gives a new generation the chance to relish an older classic. Of course... well we all know and disdain the ones that flop. :D
I'm all for it. Especially when it's a remake of a game that is hard for most people to obtain otherwise, like Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon for example, as the original (Fire Emblem for the Famicom) was only ever released in Japan, therefore making it very hard for western audiences to get a copy, let alone play a copy.
All three of these quotes essentially reiterate the postive point of how remakes can grant a treasured gaming experience to a new generation of players. :)
But also, I love remakes purely for my nostalgia, also it gives the creators a chance to right past wrongs with the original game (The Water Temple in Ocarina of Time for example is apparently getting completely revamped for the 3DS remake).
That's another good point, too - removal of
Scrappy Mechanic-ish things in remakes can also rectify the flaws of the original game.
I like remakes of old games with new graphics and such, pretty much remade from the ground up but has the same story. Like I'd love a Final Fantasy VII or a Final Fantasy X remake. But if the remake is the same game, just polished a little and is just pretty much the exact same as the original then no... I'm not fond of them.
I'm confused...so do you like or dislike the
Pokemon games? :cer_confused: XD Because they could technically fall under
both of those possibilities - new storylines with each generation to constitute a new series of games, but if you want to get
really technical, they're just dolled-up rereleases of
Red and Blue Versions that just keep on getting prettier and prettier, as much as I hate to say it (actually, several Nintendo games could fit that).
About the
Pokemon remakes...while I'm grateful for the release of
FireRed (and
LeafGreen) that enabled me to journey through the Kanto region, there is almost freaking
nothing to do in them post-game! Aside from monotonously training Pokemon to Level 100, you have the relatively short Sevii Island sidequest, the Trainer Tower, and...that's pretty much it. Compared to the FRLG "pseudo-predecessors",
Ruby and Sapphire Versions, which had the Training, Battle Tower, Contests, Berry Watering, PokeBlock-making, and Mixing Records (
EDIT: AND the Trick House). OK, I may be embellishing RS a bit, but the Contests definitely made it so there was more to do! And
Emerald just blows
FireRed out of the water.
As for
HeartGold (and
SoulSilver)
Versions...they:
- retain and enhance essentially everything GS originally had, while managing to restore Viridian Forest and Cerulean Cave,
- shoehorn in the Crystal Suicune sidequest as a small "tribute" to Crystal,
- add the Pokeathlon,
- add a Johto Safari Zone,
- add the GB Sounds,
- port over the Sinnoh Battle Frontier (that was a bit of a detractor, but I'd rather have a clone Battle Frontier than a mundane singular Battle Tower facility)
- reintroduce the long-forgotten Follow-Me feature of Yellow Version,
- add the capability of Gym Leader rematches
- add the rare Shiny Leaves that can be pieced together to form a Crown
- add the PokeWalker that, unlike FRLG's bundled Wireless Adapter, isn't necessarily multiplayer-dependent,
- improve Pokemon breeding with the stat-enhancer items, and
- insert more Legendary Pokemon (I'm half-and-half on this - it's nice that we have stationary Birds, Mewtwo, and RS mascot legends to use in conjunction with Synchronize's Overworld effect, but isn't it a tad excessive to have legends from all four generations in one game?).
I mean, my GOSH.
FireRed just seems like...like a wisp or something after HGSS came out. It's like the only thing that could make HGSS
more awesome is if
they included the Super Contests from DPPt (I'm betting that there was/is
still space left on those cartridges despite all of the content that was jam-packed in). I've been able to have nearly endless replayability in
Emerald, but HG is
quite poised to snag the title of being "best Pokemon game ever"; I've already felt that BW fall short of expectations, and
Gray and RS3DS are presumably still in the works and cannot be judged just yet. Considering that Contest Conditions, Berries, Mixing Records, and the Game Corner have been tampered with
a lot in Generation 5, I'm a bit worried about whether RS3DS can surpass HGSS (which logically, they
should be able to if everything goes according to
keikaku). If RS3DS is just going to end up being shoddy 3DS
Ruby/Sapphire port
s, I'd rather
not see the Hoenn region disgraced in such a manner.
I'm a bit worried at how far "Pokemon remaking" is going to go, following the likely release of RS3DS. The only games that were essentially
necessary as remakes were
FireRed and
LeafGreen.
HeartGold and
SoulSilver were technically "for kicks", as all Johto Pokemon were available
somehow throughout all of the Generation 3 games - however, HGSS did make obtaining certain Johto Pokemon much
easier. RS3DS are even less necessary than HGSS were, but of course, I firmly believe that they will be made as tributes to
Ruby/Sapphire, with an anniversary commemoration likely.
After RS3DS, I think it should be a
long time before
any Pokemon games are remade again - something like the 25th anniversary of
Red and Blue. But even then, it just wouldn't be right for Pokemon to remake a game for
each and every Generation... Otherwise, it's going to get as annoying as the
Final Fantasy 1 situation...WE CAN ONLY TRAVEL THROUGH KANTO SO MANY TIMES! (and there's hardly anything to
do there, anyways...I mean, we needed the
Sevii Isles just for Trainer Tower to be
positioned somewhere! Without that tower which is limited in itself, exactly what are you supposed to do after you complete training?)
And also, what else can you add to DP and
Platinum? Sinnoh is in
3D; the sprites are decent; it supports online play...not much that can be done other than slight storyline tweaks and possibly adding the 3DS's 3D effect, which is hardly enough to warrant a remake...
Additionally, I feel that only games prior to the Nintendo Gamecube, PlayStation 2, and the XBox should be remade...everything else afterwards just seems too recent/modern, and most remakes tend to focus on either Graphics or Retcons these days...
Tl;dr - remakes can be good for reliving experiences, but too much of a good thing can be bad (remake oversaturation). Remakes should only be made for
warranted reasons (typically graphics upgrades) and only if they can do justice to the original game via its own merit (never mind what the adamant Nostalgia Filter people say). I hope RS3DS turns out to be great, and I honestly don't know what Pokemon's remake future is after that. >_>