Didn't I say this before? I mean how does it change anything if gay people were to be married. I mean it affects you in absolutely NO way if two gay people were to be married.
Exactly.
If I saw two gay people getting married on my way to school or my parent's work or whatever, It wouldn't effect my future.
I wouldn't be like:
"I GONNA STUDY HARDER TO GET BETTER GRADES IN SCHOOL! wait a minute... I see two gays getting married! MY FUTURE IS RUINED!!1"
I don't see that happening.
lol ur such a badass teen
Do not flame, bash or insult other people.
All couples of opposite sex are total crap? Every normal couple is total "fight to the death"?So, lets put it this way:
"Bob" and "Belle" completely HATE eachother.
When they were kids, they hit eachother.
When they were teens, they made eachother's lives misrable.
When they were adults, they threated eachother with knives.
"Dave" and "Steve" or "Suzy" and "Karen" (Witchever you perfer)
Completly LOVE eachother.
They wouldn't let anything happen to eachother,
and don't care what anybody says about them, because all they need is eachother.
So...
"Bob" and "Belle" can get married easily because "Bob" is a man, and "Belle" is a woman,
But "Dave" and "Steve" or "Suzy" and "Karen" can't get married because they are the same sex.
...
Wow.
I'm pretty sure you've said that once before, only to return.You guys seriously start insulting me if I don't post?
Well, I'm done posting in here.
No one is saying that. I'm sick of your straw-man crap. He's only saying that straight couples and gay couples are equally capable of being legitimate/illegitimate.All couples of opposite sex are total crap? Every normal couple is total "fight to the death"?
What small groups did you have in mind? Because I'm sure there do exist groups deserving of certain rights, and there are some that aren't. Don't give me arbitrary, made-up ones like 'murder advocates' or something.And this will affect our future. Again is a small group of people can get what they want, why can't other small groups get what they want?
Try thinking for yourself, dude. Don't just mindlessly parrot the political views of your parents.Gays don't even have legal sanction to get married yet, and I personally don't see that it is going to change. Again, liberals are going to be the downfall of this country.
What? You're saying gay people have no say in their future? That's insanity.I'm just tired of people who are gay arguing with me. Once again, this is a conflict between straight people; Straight people who are for it and who are against it.
And stop calling me a "homophobia". I've studied the pros and cons of homosexuality from the bible, and I cannot find one pro-homosexuality argument to be convincing from a scriptual standpoint. That is simply "What do I honestly and prayerfully see in the bible concerning homosexuality?"
It would be nice to say the the bible does not condemn homosexuality, but I would need strong proof because the stakes are extremely high, eternal salvation, or eternal damnation.
[EDIT: FOUND IT!]Leviticus 20:13; "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a women, both of them have done what is detestable. The must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."[/EDIT]
Marriage is god's gift to make a man and a women whole. God detests homosexuality, through the Old and the New Testament, his attictude has not changed.
Could you link me to such an article? One that isn't from Wikipedia or some blatantly illegitimate source? I'm not contesting the article in question yet, I'm just curious.And there isn't a single master gene that makes a person gay. Some of it is geneteic and some of it is environmental. It isn't genetic since, in families, it isn't passed down from generation to generation.
*reads article*
Dr. Simon LeVay studies the difference between gay and straight brains. He did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. He didn't show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting his work. Nor did he locate a gay center in the brain.
Again, source? And anyway, I would think that that also debunks the theory that nurture causes homosexuality instead of nature. Since identical twins would probably be raised in the exact same environment.And if homosexuality is genetic, homosexual identical twins would be both straight, or both homosexual. That is not the case, seeing as in some cases, one of them is gay, and the other is straight.
Even if it IS caused by the environment, does it still make that much of a difference? People don't pick and choose personal traits anyway. It's just based on a string of circumstances throughout a person's life, similar to how it would be in nature, except not before birth.In my opinion, homosexuality is caused by the personal traits of a person, like how they react and cope with their problems, matched with their outside influences causes them to lose control of their sexual orientation, and they are soothed by the same sex.
Oh? How is that?The topic of gay marriage is bad science matched with bad politics. There is no absolute evidence linking gay marriage to be biological, and people who believe it is, twist the truth to fit their opinions.
We're not saying it does. We're using something called an 'analogy' (look it up) to compare it to things that have happened in history.Oh shut up! Race has nothing to do with gay marriage.
You guys seriously start insulting me if I don't post?
Well, I'm done posting in here.
All couples of opposite sex are total crap? Every normal couple is total "fight to the death"?
And this will affect our future. Again is a small group of people can get what they want, why can't other small groups get what they want?
Gays don't even have legal sanction to get married yet, and I personally don't see that it is going to change. Again, liberals are going to be the downfall of this country.
I'm just tired of people who are gay arguing with me. Once again, this is a conflict between straight people; Straight people who are for it and who are against it.
And stop calling me a "homophobia". I've studied the pros and cons of homosexuality from the bible, and I cannot find one pro-homosexuality argument to be convincing from a scriptual standpoint. That is simply "What do I honestly and prayerfully see in the bible concerning homosexuality?"
It would be nice to say the the bible does not condemn homosexuality, but I would need strong proof because the stakes are extremely high, eternal salvation, or eternal damnation.
[EDIT: FOUND IT!]Leviticus 20:13; "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a women, both of them have done what is detestable. The must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."[/EDIT]
Marriage is god's gift to make a man and a women whole. God detests homosexuality, through the Old and the New Testament, his attictude has not changed.
And there isn't a single master gene that makes a person gay. Some of it is geneteic and some of it is environmental. It isn't genetic since, in families, it isn't passed down from generation to generation.
*reads article*
Dr. Simon LeVay studies the difference between gay and straight brains. He did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. He didn't show that gay men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting his work. Nor did he locate a gay center in the brain.
People who think that they were born that way are more likely to expect gay rights to be handed over, just like that. Which is obvious, being yelled at constantly over and over in this thread.
And if homosexuality is genetic, homosexual identical twins would be both straight, or both homosexual. That is not the case, seeing as in some cases, one of them is gay, and the other is straight.
In my opinion, homosexuality is caused by the personal traits of a person, like how they react and cope with their problems, matched with their outside influences causes them to lose control of their sexual orientation, and they are soothed by the same sex.
The topic of gay marriage is bad science matched with bad politics. There is no absolute evidence linking gay marriage to be biological, and people who believe it is, twist the truth to fit their opinions.
I'm done with this thread, everything I have just said is what I believe in. Again, I repeat this is what I believe in. this doesn't make me homophobic or prejudice against gays.
"Source?"Even if it IS caused by the environment, does it still make that much of a difference? People don't pick and choose personal traits anyway. It's just based on a string of circumstances throughout a person's life, similar to how it would be in nature, except not before birth.
Huh? Parents? wtf?Try thinking for yourself, dude. Don't just mindlessly parrot the political views of your parents.
"Source?"Again, source? And anyway, I would think that that also debunks the theory that nurture causes homosexuality instead of nature. Since identical twins would probably be raised in the exact same environment.
It would be nice to say the the bible does not condemn homosexuality, but I would need strong proof because the stakes are extremely high, eternal salvation, or eternal damnation.
Marriage is god's gift to make a man and a women whole. God detests homosexuality, through the Old and the New Testament, his attictude has not changed.
See, thats your problem, your basing your beliefs on a book that can't be historically proven.
If your answer is "cause the bible says its wrong", then your a compleat idiot.
I could pick up a copy of Harry Potter and say "wizards are real!! this book told me they are!!".
Just because a book says its true, not true, real, not real, good, bad, DOESN'T mean that its correct or accurate.
So your saying I can't get married cause your god (or book) says I can't?
Well your god also says to stone disobedient children, but I don't think you support that.
You just pick and choose witch laws of your bible to uphold based on your own bigotry.