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txteclipse

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  • For the "asking for a review" thing, why don't we just make it a thread? People can come in asking for a review, and others can either choose a fic to review or review fics in the order they came in. It would make this argument go away once and for all...
     

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  • For the "asking for a review" thing, why don't we just make it a thread? People can come in asking for a review, and others can either choose a fic to review or review fics in the order they came in. It would make this argument go away once and for all...

    Totally agree. Yeah, kind of like what the Serebii forums has. The only difference is in that thread there are members applying to be reviewers and the members that want a review can PM them. Probably here the members can apply if they want their fics to be reviewed and then the reviewers will decide which fic to review first.

    Yep, sounds good. :)
     

    Grovyle42(Griff8416)

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    New Topic? I dont know if this has been done or not..

    Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    I'm going to continue my current fic. I'm currently doing a one shot for the contest which goes a long with my fic. I am also DETERMINED to do a PMD fic. There is nothing that will stop me from that :p
     

    Percy Thrillington

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    Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    Ah, nice question.

    Yes, I have three more peices of work that I have planned currently; two one-shots (Battle Royale and Are we the Waiting?) and one more fan fiction for when I finish Operation Main Frame, called With or Without You.

    They are all closely related to the characters in Operation Main Frame, and they will have protagonists/antagonists from Operation Main Frame that had a smaller role, and give them the full role. I have to admit, With or Without You, well, I really want to write it now and forget about Operation Main Frame, but I won't, because I am resiliant.

    I spelled that wrong, didn't I?
     

    txteclipse

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  • Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    The R-Type fic, as I said before. However, I'm debating whether or not to write it at the same time as the fic I'm doing now. Has anyone written two fics at the same time, and if so, was it hard? I don't really want to start writing both and then end up writing neither because of over-writing. I guess it just comes down to how much time I have on my hands (which isn't much these days, lol).

    As for writer's block, I've discovered that reading helps a bit. If there's nothing going into your brain, nothing can really come out, I suppose.
     
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    purple_drake

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  • Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    You should not have asked that question. Seriously. XD

    I'm going to assume you only want to know about the Pokemon fandom, or we'll be here all day. :3 Anyone who doesn't want to listen to me rambling on about my various planned fics should just skip my post. Really. I mean it.

    To start with the one-shots, I want to do a rewrite of a fic I posted way back when called Brother My Brother, and is a companion piece to the chaptered fic I'm working on now. I also want to do a revamp of Keeping My Sanity: Mirrorscape (a Lance character study), to reflect my changed perception of the characters, and obviously I need to fix up At What Cost (which used to be my entry for the angst contest on SPPf; it's not working properly so I'm entering something else, but thanks to everyone who reviewed it) and Another Ordinary Day (which was my entry for the battle contest).

    Then there's The Eyes of the Abyss, which is kind of a companion piece to At What Cost. Where AWC is completely anime-centred, EotA is completely manga-centred, but they both have the same sort of theme and are intended to examine the completely different sides of Lance's character. I'd also love to do a couple of sequels of Mirrorscape (which was from Lance's PoV), from the PoVs of Steven and Wallace, but I lost the notes I did have for them, so they're on the backburner. >.<

    Speaking of Wallace and Steven, I was supposed to write a friendshippy fic for someone for Christmas, but every time I sat down to do it, nothing happened. >.< That one's called Of Pillows and Picture Books, and the storyline's kind of generic, but meh. :3 The other Steven and Wallace one I'm going to write might actually end up being a two- or three-shot, but it's basically an exploration of Originshipping without the story actually being a pairing. That one's called The 'Thin Red Line'.

    Then there's 'Disillusions', which is a trilogy of one-shots focussing on Lance (big surprise). The first one is actually my new entry for the angst contest on SPPf. It's called The Good Fight, and was originally supposed to only be a standalone, but then I decided there was more story to tell, so The Mighty Fallen and A Fool's Paradise came along. All of them have a kind of case-file tone to them.

    Then there's Legacy, which is intended to be a prequel to a larger fic the same way HotM was, but that particular series has been put on the backburner due to my dramatic shift in character perception.

    ...oh yeah, and that old one-shot I want to dust off and redo, the one about time travel. >.< Can't even remember what it's called now, but it was anime-based.

    *cough* So yeah. Now the chaptered fics. Skip me if I'm boring you. :3

    Obviously I'm going to finish the fic I'm working on now, Choice and Consequence, which is being difficult at the moment. >.< I keep on having to rewrite the same scene, it's driving me nuts. I also have its sequel planned, which is at the moment called Games of Dominance, but I've been considering changing it. Plus there's the collection of AU one-shots in which the shipwreck in HotM did not happen, called, ever-so-originally, Magma Tales.

    Then there's my OTs. The first one is based on FR/LG, so yeah, it's a journeyfic; it's called Pokemon Journeys: In the Company of Gods. The sequel is based on G/S/C (surprise surprise) and is called Pokemon Journeys: A Road Already Travelled. And yes, the 'Pokemon Journeys' thing is necessary and deliberate. :P I intend to make a bit of a point with these fics, so they may end up being slightly satirical in nature.

    The third OT I have planned is completely unrelated to the other two; it's not a journeyfic. It's called From Fledgling to Flyer and is intended to be an exploration of the Dragon Clan and their traditions, place in society, their training, etc. It follows a trainer from the day he's accepted as an Initiate to the day he becomes a full Clan member.

    There's an as-yet untitled crime fic I want to write, drawing inspiration off the Lake of Rage incident and including a number of anime characters. I also have a fic centering on the unown, which is, at the moment, called Twisted Memory and has a look at the unown's possible place in the universe as the guardians of Time (yes, I am aware that Dialga is the Time Pokemon, but I'm still ignoring Sinnoh), History, Chaos, etc.

    The last standalone I have planned is so far called Reign of Terror (gag me with a spoon) and is pretty much about a war in which the League is trying to take back Kanto, Johto and Hoenn from the three Teams. Not sure on details yet.

    ...oh yeah. Can't forget my Phantom of the Opera parody. :P Scriptfic, with Morty starring as Christine, Will as the Phantom and Eusine as Raoul... so I was influenced by yaoi shippers, so sue me. :P

    Finally there's that series I mentioned that's been put on the backburner because of my shift in character perception. The first chaptered fic is called Viridian and is basically about an original region in which pokemon have been enslaved and they're trying to rebel (wow, that sounds so cliche). The sequel, Twilight, actually has very little to do with the region but a lot to do with the protagonist afterwards having to come to terms with all the shite that happened to him in the first one, and then all this shite that's happening to him now because of all the shite that happened in the first one. Then there's the third chaptered fic in the series, Legend's Rising (blergh), which actually comes before all the others. It was originally supposed to be a standalone but got delegated to being in this series because it uses the same outdated character perception.

    ...I think I'm done. ^.^;; I told you you shouldn't have asked that question. And people wonder why I have so much trouble getting things out regularly. >.<

    ...well, you probably don't, but meh. :P Anybody who actually read this, say it with me: 'fangirl'.
     
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    Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    I'm trying to think up a One Shot, but I'm not sure that One Shots are my style of writing. I'll have to practice.

    As far as future fics, I'm planning two more fics:

    1. When the third game comes out, I'll make a fic based off it.
    2. If they remake Johto, I'll make a fic as well, similar to the Fire Red/Leaf Green saga of Pokemon Special.
     
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    For the "asking for a review" thing, why don't we just make it a thread? People can come in asking for a review, and others can either choose a fic to review or review fics in the order they came in. It would make this argument go away once and for all...
    Ask, and ye shall receive.

    Fanfiction Announcement Thread

    Dig it.

    It's up for tweaking. So if any improvements are wanted, just holler away. I might ignore you in the beginning, but for now, it's good.

    So from now on, all posts about new chapters/one-shots/fics go in that thread. The Lounge will just be a place for us to discuss writing (like a real lounge).

    Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?
    Maybe. Don't know. I'm still plugging away at the same fic that I've been working at for the past many years.
     

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    What is your favorite pokemon to write about/Which one would you most like to write about? Why?
    easily the Treecko line. As the anime has portrayed, they could be quite the melee fighters, and they've got a wide movepool to pull it off with (they've got a great selection of special moves as well). Now, several people like Grovyle more than Sceptile, but the way I see it, Sceptile is the perfect representation of power combined with speed. I'll agree, its Sugimori artwork isn't that great... makes it look kinda fat and laidback, but the anime managed to portray Ash's in a much better light, thankfully. With a slightly trimmer redesign, it really shouldn't be hard to picture it like a swift-moving assassin.... hell, some of my inspiration for its battle choreography comes from Renamon (Digimon Tamers). They look a little alike when you think about it: human posture, bulky thighs, legs that bend backwards, pointed snout (or rather something of a beak in Sceptile's case), and interestingly enough, they're both meant to be agile.

    As purple_drake mentioned, Unown's a very interesting Pokemon as well, albeit extremely under-appreciated (I find it interesting to collect the alphabets and see what each of their Hidden Powers is like.... it probably won't be used in competitive battling, but in single-player RPG tradition, it's always fun to go around picking off small fry in random battles ^^). And being so shrouded in mystery, and supposedly being related to legendaries, how could you not take advantage of that? Speaking of legendaries, a lot of them are interesting to write about as well, if only for all the creation myths that canon surrounds them with.

    Also, as much as I enjoy speedy fighters, I've got an appreciation for the slow types as well. In particular, my erogee will feature a number of small, stubby Pokemon (Cacnea, Aron, Trapinch), and as I probably mentioned before, I intend to portray speeds accurately and consistently from the games (as opposed to the route the anime took, in which a friggin' turtle zips all over the place -_-). It'd be interesting to see them battle in spite of their lack of movement, and outside of battle, I'm picturing their slow movements to appear rather cute, even making for some funny situations.

    Do you ever get that feeling in writing where you just don't want to write anymore?
    I've got a discontinued narrative and script, so I'd have to say "yes". I guess I lost interest because, aside from the fact that I started to think my narrative style sucked (not so much script, but still.... I wanted a manga from the offset), I felt the story was turning into a complete mess (which is all the more reason I am seriously planning things out ahead of time now). Back when I wrote a narrative, I was just getting out a story that my brother began and gave up on, and it wasn't until later I realized how many of his early ideas (as well as ideas for later that he told me about) really weren't working out, and overall seemed extremely half-assed at that (I'm currently wondering just what the hell I saw in them).

    For instance, "Hiro" (who was pretty much my brother's self-insert) and his friend "Chris" (my brother actually has a friend named that, too) are suddenly invited by Professor Elm to go to Newbark Town to discuss seeing the legendary beasts awaken when they just so happened to be there (as if they couldn't just discuss it with Elm right there when he happened to be visiting Ecruteak). Also, Kenta from the Crystal special (later given the English name Jimmy) joins up with Hiro, and trying to fit into anime continuity, he's finished half of his gyms and did some backtracking for whatever reason, so..... he's kinda left doing nothing but stagnating in the background half the time (and I doubt he would've done anything important anyway). The script wasn't much better.... sure, I took time to develop the characters more, and cut out several of the unnecessary things, but I feel I went overboard with my "attempts" to make the story seem more deep. Seriously, Hiro's homesickness seems kinda shoved into the reader's face.... no, more than that, it's outright jammed down their throats. What's even sadder: I didn't even agree with the theme I was trying to come up with.... I was going to have later chapters focus on getting Hiro try to appreciate Pokemon battling. So what, he's pretty much forced into it? And he's supposed to see it as more important than his regular life that he treasures so much? That's kinda ****ed up, wouldn't you think?

    Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?
    Of course... in fact, pretty much everything I've talked about is only in the planning stages right now (unless you want to count the serial, for which I've written and discontinued earlier versions of).

    Take the Harry Potter series - technically readers are forced to conveniently forget about the existence of time-travel in it in order for the story to work out at all, because the time-travel is too unrestricted and technically somebody could just go back in time and undo, say, the birth of Voldemort. (The only reason given in the books for not doing so is that in the particular context time-travel was actually used would involve the main characters seeing their own future selves in the past, which would freak them out too much - there are no technical restrictions on causing paradoxes at all.)

    the whole "you shouldn't see yourself in a different time" thing has gotta be one of the crappiest time-travel ideas I've heard of. In all actuality, your past (or even your future) selves are no doubt going to be affected by every small little detail that no doubt results from you being there in the first place, so seeing your own face is nothing more than pouring water into a pond. Even though no one asked, I would like to present my personal analysis on the whole matter of time travel.

    Some of you might be familiar with what's called "the butterfly effect", in which a butterfly fluttering its wings in one place can cause a hurricane in another. Now maybe it's not that extreme, but nonetheless, the butterfly's presence is causing a small change to occur in air currents. Should you place that butterfly there a few minutes ago, it'd no doubt be too insignificant to matter. However, the further back you go, the larger an impact every tiny change will have.... given a few years, possibly even centuries, that small change in air movement actually could cause a hurricane somewhere in the world.... or, it could slightly move a hurricane that one area was supposed to have over to a completely different area. Nonetheless, this shows how significant change over much build-up. Similarly, if you were to move just a grain of sand, it probably won't impact a rock during wind erosion (or it will hit a rock it wasn't supposed to hit). It doesn't sound like much, but given a million years, that could be a countless number of impacts that single grain was or wasn't supposed to make (quite easily the same number of impacts needed to take out a boulder).

    Chain events are also a problem. If you were to stop World War II from happening, certain soldiers who should've been killed will end up producing a child with someone who was supposed to move on and find another mate. Hell, every small conversation and event each person has in their life could easily effect their future partnership, lineage, as well as those of other people they encounter. And going back on the butterfly effect, one has to take how we're conceived into consideration. It's not so simple as "Marty's gotta make his parents kiss at the dance". Getting really technical here, we result from the combination of two single-cells. With millions of sperm fighting to get to that egg, so not only must the time of conception be exact, but causing your ancestors to shift so much as a millimeter will cause a different person to be born. One must also consider the diets the parents take to produce their sex cells (as well as the unborn fetus), and even if the right sperm made it to the egg, how can one insure the chances of the parents' genes dividing to match the genes that their offspring's supposed to have? Even the correct person could end up with traits from one parent that they should've had from the other.... being born the opposite sex is also an easy possibility.

    Thankfully, fiction often overlooks these sort of technicalities. Nonetheless, realistic time-travel (assuming my theories hold weight) is extremely dangerous and not to be taken lightly. Though, even fiction tends to have enough sense not to send someone back 200 years, cause/prevent a large incident, and expect everything to be completely fine in the present (unless it's applying the alternate universe theory, a theory I'm actually rather fond of).
     

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  • Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    ...I think I'm done. ^.^;; I told you you shouldn't have asked that question. And people wonder why I have so much trouble getting things out regularly. >.<

    ...well, you probably don't, but meh. :P Anybody who actually read this, say it with me: 'fangirl'.

    "Fangirl!" XD

    Don't worry, I'm acutally in the same boat as you, purple drake. XD All right, my time to ask this questions...

    For one shots, here are the plans I got:

    -Wanting to do the remake of "Forever Young". The plot and characters will be the same but the writing style will be quite different. I still hadn't have time to do it yet. >.>

    -A prequel to my first fic, "Heart of the Sea", which will be called, "The Other Side of the Sea" (sue me! XD). Bascially it's going to be a short backstory about the Whiscash in that story. Still didn't have time to write it.

    -A one shot that was originally going to be the entry for the tragic one shot contest but won't be able to enter because of school, work, and a few other things. :X It's going to be called "Will I Be Remembered?", bascially a one shot inspired by one of my friends' story and a thread at Serebii...and oh, it'll be on Cynthia. That's all I'm going to say at the moment. XD Probably might be able to do this in Spring Break.

    -My unfinished one shot "Midnight Song", which is mostly about a sailor one day hearing a Lapras' song. A short, short verison of "Moby Dick" I like to call it. XD Will finish this one day. XD

    -My finished one shot but thinking of rewriting it, "Mori", which is an OT one shot of a grass type trainer suddenly found a very simple village after gone through a blizzard and hanging out with a girl named Mori. Will edit that story one day. :X

    For chaptered fics:

    Spoiler:


    As for other chaptered fics, probably the one I mentioned in the spoiler might be my last Pokemon chaptered fic. School and work is eating a lot of my time and I so would like to write an original story or two one day. ^^;
     

    Grovyle42(Griff8416)

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    Do you ever get that feeling in writing where you just don't want to write anymore?

    It usually just lasts a day or two.

    What is your favorite pokemon to write about/Which one would you most like to write about? Why?

    I'm going to say Treecko and evos. They are my favorite pokemon, and, as Yamato-san brought up, quite fun to write in battles due to their moves and stature. I also love the overall personality.

    Due to the one shot contest over at serebii, I found myself really enjoying writing about Beedrills and their societies way of life which I came up with as sort of like the Red Army during WW2.
     

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    Hiro's homesickness seems kinda shoved into the reader's face.... no, more than that, it's outright jammed down their throats.

    speaking of which.... I would like to know a bit more about subtlety and how to go about handling it. As I've said before (I'm throwing this term around a lot... should I really bother, since most people here read through all my long-ass posts anyway?), I've learned a lot about story complexity through reading various anime reviews over the years. A lot of reviews do bring up how the themes are kinda shoved in your face, holding the viewer's hand through the whole thing instead of letting them figure things out themselves. I agree that making the theme too noticeable is annoying (especially when they blatantly say it several times throughout the series).... however, if it's too subtle, a lot of people could hate it (ex. Evangelion).

    Given, most people likely hate such stuff because they just missed the point, and once you do understand the point, it's all the more better because of it. Nonetheless, it would be a shame to have something that's overly confusing to most audiences, so having an easy-to-follow story with some deep underlying stuff seems like one of the better routes to take. Though, I would like to know how you go about making themes subtle without making them seem damn outright non-existent to even the most profound of viewers (if not something only the original author would know). To sum this up in a question, I guess I'm asking....

    How do you deal with subtlety?

    And if you anyone has anymore info on how to handle it, that would be much appreciated. Just a reminder to everyone, I'm still looking for more understanding on themes in general as well.
     

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  • How do you deal with subtlety?

    This one's a toughie. You can either use a few subtle things until the reader finally finds out what the subtleties have led up to and hope that they remember said subtleties, or you can be less subtle and keep pounding the points into the reader's head until they either figure out a plot segment early or get annoyed at being kept in the dark.

    My method is to do a few (one or two) allusions to whatever I want to be subtle about that will make the reader suspicious, but then not mention it again until I want them to remember said subtleties. Hopefully when they read whatever the "punchline" happens to be, they'll remember back to the subtle moments, smack their foreheads, and wonder why they didn't see it right away.

    It's a delicate balance, in any case, and I can't say for sure that I'm all that good at it in the first place. Good luck, though...
     

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    How do you deal with subtlety?

    Very subtly. It's a hard beast to tame and I can only hope I can wrestle it into place without people noticing.
     

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  • Off Topic *hopes not to annoy*

    Not to be off topic but I have a question that I can't seem to find the answer to...

    I'm very paranoid about fanfic and art theft. It's preventing me from actually showing off any of my work. I was wondering that if I post my works on DeviantArt; being sure to mention that I am indeed 'Hissy Fit', would it then be alright to post them here also?

    (Sorry if I worded that a bit funny. My aching head is affecting my thinking).
     

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  • Grovyle42(Griff4815) said:
    Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    Oh yes. Most of them are requests from Christmas that I have yet to finish because I suck. One of them is a one-shot involving my friends' OCs and an elevator, with my only explanation of why I have yet to write it being "I can't think of how to tackle this decently." The second is the next chapter of a collaborative work I've been doing with another friend titled Long Live the King. The third is a nameless serial (though I've been thinking about calling it Cross) involving the five Storage/Retrieval System developers and one too many references to Ouran High School Host Club. (Bill = Tamaki?) I plan on posting the latter to PC once I get off my rear and write it.

    The other serial I plan on doing may be released this October. It's a sci-fi fling that, when I proposed the plot bunny on my LiveJournal, successfully creeped out half my friends list.

    Lastly, I'm contemplating actually working on Project: Firefly (my most recent failed NaNo), although I don't like what I've done with it in the revamped version.

    And only now do I realize how much Bill fanfiction I write but fail to actually publish.

    Yamato-san said:
    How do you deal with subtlety?

    Unfortunately, my problem with subtlety is that I've realized exactly what you've realized: either that something is laid on so thick that it's smacking the reader in the face or that it's laid on so thin that the reader doesn't pick up on it. However, I personally believe that it's usually better to go with the latter than the former, as I feel it's safer to make something vague than risk insulting the intelligence of your reader. Not to mention the fact that if things are made to be obvious, it ruins the entire thing because, yes, being obvious completely defeats the purpose of attempting subtlety. Ergo, I lean to the side of ambiguity and don't worry too much about it. That is, if I attempt a theme at all. Most often, I really don't work with a theme in mind at all because from my own experience, if one attempts to be conscious about a theme, it just comes out thick. Likewise, not many professional writers go into a work and allow themes to take precedence over the actual story. That is, when they sit down to write, one would expect them to say first, "I want to write a story about a city built on the misery of one child" and maybe after that, "It's a story about the cruelty of society against the individual."

    While, yes, I understand the actual definition of a theme (that it's a broad idea represented in a work), the truth of the matter is that I try not to, well, try. Because of that, if my work happens to have an overall theme, I end up leaving only hints about it as I go through the events of the story, rather than attempt to actually have a conscious theme, if that makes sense.

    Hissy Fit said:
    I'm very paranoid about fanfic and art theft. It's preventing me from actually showing off any of my work. I was wondering that if I post my works on DeviantArt; being sure to mention that I am indeed 'Hissy Fit', would it then be alright to post them here also?

    If it's yours, then I don't see what's stopping you. A lot of us post our work on various sites as well.

    At which point, I hope to see your work soon.
     
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  • *wakes from the dead* Oh man, haven't been here in a while. I've recently been a little turned away from writing due to lack of interest. However, I feel that I owe it not only to my readers, but to myself for finishing at least one of my fics. With that said, lemme answer some of these questions:

    Do you have any fics/one shots planned for the future? If so, what?

    Hah, don't get me started. I HAD two one-shots and a whole new fic planed for '08, but I'm having some second thoughts. Before writing anything new, I intend to finish one of the two unfinished fics I already have (whichever I choose will be completely rewritten). I've also learned my lesson and will be sure to have many chapers under my belt before posting.

    What is your favorite pokemon to write about/Which one would you most like to write about? Why?

    I absolutely, and without a doubt love writing about Absols and Larvitars (big suprise, eh?). Since Absols are pretty rare in fics, I was able to add any personality I wanted when I wrote about one. I like Larvitars and its evos for the sole reason that it's just a cool Pokemon.
     

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    Most often, I really don't work with a theme in mind at all because from my own experience, if one attempts to be conscious about a theme, it just comes out thick. Likewise, not many professional writers go into a work and allow themes to take precedence over the actual story. That is, when they sit down to write, one would expect them to say first, "I want to write a story about a city built on the misery of one child" and maybe after that, "It's a story about the cruelty of society against the individual."

    While, yes, I understand the actual definition of a theme (that it's a broad idea represented in a work), the truth of the matter is that I try not to, well, try. Because of that, if my work happens to have an overall theme, I end up leaving only hints about it as I go through the events of the story, rather than attempt to actually have a conscious theme, if that makes sense.

    I didn't start my story with a theme in mind neither.... however, in my experience, if the story doesn't have some level of complexity to it, then the ending will more than likely end up seeming rather underwhelming. Predictable outcomes, a "What? That's it?" feeling, several events and characters ending up serving absolutely no purpose towards the plot whatsoever, and an overall sense of shallowness that doesn't leave you looking back on it for long. I really don't want my works to have that kind of feeling. Given, I guess this partly comes down to execution and how typical the scenarios are made out to be, but themes certainly seem to help craft something unique often times.
     

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  • *shrug* Just because you don't consciously add a theme to your story doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't have a level of complexity, but you've pretty much covered it with your last sentence -- that it depends on how you do it. You can still pull off an interesting story if you merely look at the events, rather than what it means metaphorically or philosophically or whatever you're going for in a conscious theme. Otherwise, something like Chekhov's gun would have no hope of ever really working. (That is, because a story is primarily entertainment, if a plot is executed with its own innate sense of intricacy, it still can be enjoyable to the majority of your audience. In other words, my advice: just keep track of what you added to the story and where you were going with it. Take it out and fix up the plot in the revision stages. Publish when ready.)

    Likewise, as you've brought up before, it's possible to create a feeling of flatness and singular dimensions (that is, the shallowness that you've just described) if you consciously attempt for a theme by overemphasizing what you're talking about, which in turn, for the reader, is equivalent to being smacked repeatedly in the head with a shovel. While I realize you don't follow the dub, consider the the first Pokemon movie. One of the major themes was that violence doesn't solve everything, and smack in the middle of the movie, you get some pretty trite dialogue out of the characters (such as James looking at the fighting Pokemon and muttering, "I was prepared for trouble... but not like this," a la anti-drug commercial).

    Additionally, you have to be careful with themes as well. Just like there's such a thing as bad poetry, there's such a thing as a bad theme. In other words, just because you write it doesn't exactly mean that you're achieving a level of depth. It may in itself cause your writing to become shallow because you end up either (A) sounding ridiculous in an obvious attempt to be pretentious or (B) writing about themes that have already been covered countless times. Sure, it's possible to avoid both points altogether or at least going for B and pulling it off anyway, but I'm just saying the risk is still there.

    So, yes, it really just depends on how the story is executed and the skills of the individual author. Some people pull off stories without really giving theme a particular precedence over plot, whereas others consciously make an attempt and still pull off an awesome literary work. Sorry if this really doesn't help you with your writing, although my advice to you is to just figure out what wouldn't be a predictable outcome and work from there. That and you're probably worrying yourself to death about something the average reader probably doesn't really think about. As in, I wouldn't worry about avoiding a shallow story too much if I were you. Speaking from experience, sometimes, the harder you try to avoid something, the more likely you are to hit it anyway. (I mean, I only really know of one or two reviewers who actually look for themes in a fanfiction... unless it smacks the reader over the head like the aforementioned shovel. Unless this isn't fanfiction, but even then, searching for themes, from what I can tell from various lit classes, is more of a critic thing than a conscious effort by the author. Only one story I've ever read has ever come across as attempting to push a theme, and that's "Those Who Walk Away From Omelas" by Ursula Le Guin. Everything else more or less felt like they just happened.)

    Edit: At least, I hope this made a bit of sense. Apologies if I've rambled.
     
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