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Myzou

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    Can anyone help me figure out a 6th? The only thing I notice I'm missing is a water type attack.

    Gallade@Scope Lens
    Jolly/Steadfast
    6 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
    Swords Dance
    Close Combat
    Night Slash
    Shadow Sneak/Psycho Cut

    Yanmega@Wise Glasses
    Modest/Speed Boost
    4 HP/252 SpA/252 Speed
    Protect
    HP Ice
    Bug Buzz
    Air Slash

    Gengar@Life Orb
    Timid/Levitate
    4HP/252SpA/252Speed
    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Focus Blast

    Roserade @ Expert Belt
    Timid/Natural Cure
    4 HP/252 SpA/252 Speed
    Leaf Storm
    Sludge Bomb
    Shadow Ball
    HP Fire

    Froslass @ Focus Sash
    Timid/Snow Cloak
    6 HP/252 SpA/252 Speed
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Shadow Ball
    HP Fighting

    To explain Items: I don't like to copy, and on top of that, I don't use Choice Items.

    I was considering Milotic, but I'm not quite sure...
     
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    Well all you have is sweepers so wall it up. Meaning replace half your team with some good walling and put some more walling in that last slot.
     

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    Thanks for the suggestions, Anti-Pop. I'd use Celebi if I could find a good natured legit one. But chances are all I'll get are hacked ones from the GTC. I guess I'll have to go with Tangrowth. One ownd me pretty proper in PBR this morning >< Kinda took me by surprise since that was the first time I've encountered one.
     

    Myzou

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    Anti-Pop said:
    Well all you have is sweepers so wall it up. Meaning replace half your team with some good walling and put some more walling in that last slot.
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    I hate walls, It's a pet peeve of mine, however, I have learned I need some kind of a wall, so I added Milotic, she was able to wall 3 pokemon before falling (she killed them in the mean time XD) I'm now 5/5 with this team on shoddy... Now to REbreed all my pokemon, as my current ones have whacked EVs -.-
     

    El Gofre

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    If you dont use walls you will not win, fact. Take anti's advice, you need at least two walls
     

    Archer

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    Myzou said:
    Can anyone help me figure out a 6th? The only thing I notice I'm missing is a water type attack.

    Gallade@Scope Lens
    Jolly/Steadfast
    6 HP/252 Attack/252 Speed
    Swords Dance
    Close Combat
    Night Slash
    Shadow Sneak/Psycho Cut

    Yanmega@Wise Glasses
    Modest/Speed Boost
    4 HP/252 SpA/252 Speed
    Protect
    HP Ice
    Bug Buzz
    Air Slash

    Gengar@Life Orb
    Timid/Levitate
    4HP/252SpA/252Speed
    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Focus Blast

    Roserade @ Expert Belt
    Timid/Natural Cure
    4 HP/252 SpA/252 Speed
    Leaf Storm
    Sludge Bomb
    Shadow Ball
    HP Fire

    Froslass @ Focus Sash
    Timid/Snow Cloak
    6 HP/252 SpA/252 Speed
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Shadow Ball
    HP Fighting

    To explain Items: I don't like to copy, and on top of that, I don't use Choice Items.

    I was considering Milotic, but I'm not quite sure...
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    A Boah with Ice Beam Scores as Super effective hit on everything but Gallade. Plus it sort of ruins Frosslass' Focus Sash. So Milotic/Swampert sounds nice. Swampert helps even out the Special Attacking Emphasis on your team.

    OFFTOPIC: If two pokemon use Focus Punch, What happens?

    I'd like a SpecsApe set, with Overheat, please.
     
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    Myzou

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    Archer said:
    A Boah with Ice Beam Scores as Super effective hit on everything but Gallade. Plus it sort of ruins Frosslass' Focus Sash. So Milotic/Swampert sounds nice. Swampert helps even out the Special Attacking Emphasis on your team.

    OFFTOPIC: If two pokemon use Focus Punch, What happens?

    I'd like a SpecsApe set, with Overheat, please.
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    Errr, how would it super effective hit Froslass and Gengar? *confuzzled*

    I'm having no trouble on shoddy with 1 wall... and I don't intend to go up against groups with Ubers in them, so why do I need a 2nd wall? Heck, my Milotic managed to take down a blissey on shoddy XD Click spoilers to see the log of it XD I was laughing so much, freeze lasted like 7 turns -.-

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    To answer your question: The fastest pokemon would hit with focus punch first, thus causing the second one to lose concentration and fail with the attack.
     

    El Gofre

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    He mean's tyraniboah's moveset in general, because most run ice beam and crunch.
     

    Myzou

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    Gofre said:
    He mean's tyraniboah's moveset in general, because most run ice beam and crunch.
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    That further brings questions.

    Ice Beam could not super effective Froslass (who is part ice herself) nor gengar. If you were counting crunch, then even gallade could, however, Gallade is 99.9% always faster then him, and Close Combat will OHKO tyranitar (believe it or not), same with Froslass' Hidden Power Fighting :/
     

    El Gofre

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    Actually tyraniboah runs DD if i remember correctly, it would set up on the switch and OHKO you,
     

    Myzou

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    Gofre said:
    Actually tyraniboah runs DD if i remember correctly, it would set up on the switch and OHKO you,
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    Impossible for a Tyr to outspeed Froslass without 6 DDs. Would require 3 to outspeed gallade, tested that one on shoddy. TTs speed is just too low compared to them =P

    Besides, my gallade has shadow sneak XD
     

    El Gofre

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    You overestimate gallade's speed. Base 80 isn't that fast. Assuming jolly, max speed EVs/IVs it has 284. A TTar running jolly, max IVs and a single dragon dance would only need 60 speed EVs to outrun you. Most Boahs run some speed EVs, and 60 isnt all too much. On top of that, whats a shadow sneak gonna do against a dark type? It'll laugh it off with lefties and will have a second DD behind before you know whats happening
     

    Myzou

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    Gofre said:
    You overestimate gallade's speed. Base 80 isn't that fast. Assuming jolly, max speed EVs/IVs it has 284. A TTar running jolly, max IVs and a single dragon dance would only need 60 speed EVs to outrun you. Most Boahs run some speed EVs, and 60 isnt all too much. On top of that, whats a shadow sneak gonna do against a dark type? It'll laugh it off with lefties and will have a second DD behind before you know whats happening
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    Either way, Froslass will kill him before he can try =P And like I said, if not her, then gallade. Heck, maybe even Gengar XD
     

    El Gofre

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    You do realise that sandstorm offers a 1.5 boost to a rock type's SpDef? Tyranitar only needs 25 Ivs and no EVs in SpDef for it to hit 345, which is quite meaty for a sweeper. Froglass and gengar would 2HKO it at the most, but they'ed be on the floor crying before they got a chance to hit twice.

    It may look like im criticising everything you say, but its just so you dont end up making mistakes that will cost you the game :)
     

    Myzou

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    Gofre said:
    You do realise that sandstorm offers a 1.5 boost to a rock type's SpDef? Tyranitar only needs 25 Ivs and no EVs in SpDef for it to hit 345, which is quite meaty for a sweeper. Froglass and gengar would 2HKO it at the most, but they'ed be on the floor crying before they got a chance to hit twice.

    It may look like im criticising everything you say, but its just so you dont end up making mistakes that will cost you the game :)
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    You do know I've tested all of these right? :/ Tyranitar at the most can KO one of the 3. The other one will kill him before he can get to them XD, If the trainer isn't bright and tells tyranitar to DD when gallade is out, can OHKO without any KOs on my side <.<

    Also, most people EV 252 att and speed, which leaves 4 for spd (no idea why they do that... *shrug*)

    I've taken out a DDx3 TT with Milotic Before... Surf Critted and killed him XD, the trainer was just in awe XD Not to mention Yanmega flinching him over and over =P
     

    El Gofre

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    Like i said, it doesnt need SpDef EVs, just IVs. Besides, Tyraniboah runs a more mixed EV spread to make it bulkier.

    We're not gonna solve this, you think you're right and i think i'm right. All i can say is none of these pokes are built for surviving Boah, so ask around for a counter because its better to be safe than sorry.

    Maybe a more senior member of PC can come in and settle it.
     

    Myzou

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    I know how we can settle this:

    Tyranitar has been on my list of pokemon I don't battle for a while. Ever since I entered 5 hacked ones on WiFi in a row :/ Saw a hacked Metagross last week -.- He moved faster then my yanmega after 3 speed boosts <.< When no speed boosts were on metagross, and he had a life orb on -.- Tyranitar is Uber in my books, and although he has a 4x weakness, the sandstorm change completely overpowered him.
     

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    Are you agreeing with me there?
    To be honest banning pokes like TTar's kinda silly, its like people refusing to fight blissey. They are both counterable if you thing about it. Like you said, it has a quad weakness. Scarfed hera counters it quite well, and it has trouble with skarmory too.
     

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    Heracross@CB
    Adamant
    Guts
    252Att/252Speed/6HP
    Megahorn
    CloseCombat
    Stone Edge
    Pursuit
    Standard methinks
     
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