3rd Gen What's the all the hating on 3rd Gen

[FreakyLocz14]

The Hoenn journey was fun and I enjoyed it. But when I say that people call me a n00b because I like Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. I agree that the other Gens are better but that doesn't make R/S/E bad games I liked them I esp enjoy R/S/E contests over D/P/Plat contests.

What else did you like about R/S/E I'm inviting all fans to share their thoughts.

 

[Meadow]

R/S/E is good. And yes, the contests are much better this generation.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Actully,I prefer the 3rd gen.Its my afvourite Genaration and it also bring me some good ol' memorys.

 

[Pyrax]

I liked the contests, plus it was my first game.
People don't like the 3rd Gen because of all the water.

 

[JoltIce]

Really? I thought they don't like it because of the Pokemon? Anyway, I actually didn't like the Hoenn games, but FR/LF are my favorite Pokemon games :)

 

[Ayselipera]

I liked the contests, plus it was my first game.
People don't like the 3rd Gen because of all the water.

I thought I was the only one who thought that!

Anyways, the pokemon took some getting used too,
but I've learned to accept them. After playing R/S/E
so many times I don't think their that bad.

 

[JollyRoger25]

My favorite game of all time is Emerald version, and it still rocks my socks off!!!! I think that people that go around calling others Noob because they don't have the newest versions are in fact Noobs, because they haven't played the games long enough to find the glory that is Hoenn!!!

 

[The Roshi]

Hoenn is crappy because it's like a forgotten game. The storyline is nothing big and the game itself is just too easy. I think what lots of people don't think about though, is that RSE was very innovative in the graphics department. Pokemon received a serious facelift and cool features like reflections and the HM animations and stuff were created with this game.

Anyways that's just my opinion. But seriously hoenn is just so... boring

 

[Silhouette]

Hoenn games were the very best IMO. It might not even be gameplay (okay, it's a huge factor), but simply the memories. All the time spent in the Union Room chat in Emerald.. Ah, good times. XD

 

[fenyx4]

Ok, I don't understand all the Generation III hate, either! (mainly focusing on RSE) These were the games that brought this previously pro-Digimon/anti-Pokemon fan to embrace both franchises, allowing me to become a co-Digimon, co-Pokemon fan. :D Actually, the game that roped me back was Sapphire, and the feature I loved was that, basically, you could make in-game treehouses. Odd, I know. :nervous:

But with the addition of double battles, Pokemon Contests, Secret Bases, Mixing Records, Abilities, Natures, I think RSE has brought a lot to the Pokemon table. Plus, there are many Pokemon that are much better than some of Gen. IV's Pokemon. I mean, I'll take a Banette over Carnivine or Spiritomb ANY day. And I actually think that NO Hoenn Pokemon are ugly, as opposed to some of Gen. IV's 'Pokemon products' that look VERY poorly designed, sadly.

Additionally, I love how RSE kept on revealing secrets to me! First Rayquaza, Lati@s, then the yields of the Battle Tower/Frontier, Chimecho, Feebas' location, the Abandoned Ship, the Trick House, Mirage Island, IVs and EVs, how mixing records can affect the Battle Frontier's Battle Salon selections, shiny Pokemon, the Regis' event(s), the "hidden" National Dex, Emerald's Pokemon Abilities having more out-of-battle effects, and more!
Heck, the last two things I learned a while ago is that you can switch move slots not just out of battle, but in-battle as well! And in Double Battles, you can also switch the HP Bar to show only the numbers instead (looks sort of weird, though). I know most of these "secrets" aren't exclusive to RSE (such as discovery of IVs and EVs), but RSE did a fantastic job of unveiling their own secrets along with their predecessors', several of which I was unaware of.

And as for the plot, I didn't think it was that bad! It actually pushed me to finish the game with trivial errands, combined with the Pokemon League and defeating the main crime syndicate. Two opposing teams was a nice twist in Pokemon as opposed to just the usual single main antagonist. Emerald's was pretty nice, too; first time the Weather Trio actually gets to clash and wreak havoc a bit! At least Emerald has more to do post-game than FR/LG...Battle Frontier, Trainer Hill, and E4, compounded with Pokemon Contests.

In retrospect, Gen. III does lack some stuff (Gen. IV's new moves are sorely missed in the Hoenn Battle Tower and Battle Frontier), but it's pretty decent overall, simply the growth through generations that marks significant changes. I'd take RSE over RBY and FR/LG anyday. RBY and FR/LG are great games in their own regard, but plot and replayability suffer a bit...

RSE trumps DPPt regarding Secret Bases/Mixing Records. You always have a piece of your friends in your game, and leveling-up is way easier when you can fight 6 Blisseys repeatedly with Exp. Share! Plus, kicking your friends' butt can be refreshing at times... :D

Emerald's introduction of the Battle Frontier will always be a welcome innovation. It nicely builds upon Pokemon Crystal's Battle Tower with additional battle/exploration styles and formats. Almost-infinite replayablity with foes that actually piss you off (DARN YOU TO HECK, BLISSEY, LANTURN, & SNORLAX!!), and can beat certain Pokemon combinations occasionally with devastating combos as you move up in the ranks, regardless of your team's level or your own skill.

And as for the water, it's awesome! Allows Kyogre to represent, and allows players to sail on the water with ease! Play DP, and you'll value RSE's surf speed much more, I've heard! ;)
The water's vibrancy is also a soothing graphical update from Gen. II, and I love how you can set off from a shore like Lilycove's and end up at one out of like a 1,000 different places, and meet so many Trainers... Those Swimmers can get really annoying with their "locking eyes on Trainers" thing, though...Oh, and diving is awesome! (at times)! :t382:

I'm fond of RSE, but Ruby is still overrated... :laugh:

EDIT: Sceptile's Grass-type "fighter" theme :t254:, coupled with Blaziken's introduction :t257: in RSE is enough to give Gen. III an edge in superiority. And Blaziken is just epic. :rambo:

 

[The Roshi]

Nice points, well put. However, I think one huge factor that makes 4th gen so much greater than 3rd is the wifi. Gen III was like a teaser. It was good, but it could have been so much better with wifi. The secret base battles that you are talking about could only happen if you had friends that you could visit and mix records with. The weather legendaries only had a brief amount of impact on the game. Sure the plot was based around the two teams trying to harness said legendaries' power... however they themselves had like one small event that was beatable in about 10 minutes or so.

The battle frontier seems to pale in comparison to this new one that platinum has.

 

[aribradshaw]

I love hoenn!!! when i lost my emerald i was so sad... so now im trying to do chores to buy a new one, theyre so good that theyre 40 $!!!

 

[*~Fireheart~*]

I really didn't like R/S/E, the whole game was way too easy. Did you know that you could actually play through the whole game without beating the second gym, the fighting gym? [I mean, you'd have to go back to get the badge. But that gym could basically be your last gym if you wanted.] The Battle Fronteir is the real challenge.

 

[Satoshi Ookami]

I like 3rd gen :) especially 'cause it was the gen when I returned to pokemon :)
And of course May :D

 

[Sweet Smoochum]

I actually liked playing Sapphire when it first came out. It was the first set of games to show changes in weather. The tree houses were cool (Fortree's my favorite city), and it had an awesome water starter. Although I chose Blaziken (to copy the show), it was still a great Pokemon to have. That was the first game where I found out that Flying moves were super effective against Flying types. The games had their own Pokemon and didn't borrow any from the previous gens. Out of every game, it had my favorite HM. HM Dive. I wish I could have gone underwater in DPPt or GSC. That would have been cool. Also, this game contained very powerful Pokemon and introduced new Dragon and Ice type Pokemon. Some of the powerful Pokemon include Metagross, Flygon, Claydol, Salamence, Walrein, Blaziken, Sceptile, Swampert, Wailord (big one), Swellow, Slaking, Exploud, Hariyama, Manectric, Camerupt...they even had a Pokemon that had no weaknesses. (Sableye). They also allowed you to have a Psychic, Steel, and Dark type early on in the game. (Ralts, Mawile, and Poochyena.)

Hoenn had a lot of powerful Pokemon. If you took the time to choose your Pokemon carefully, you could have an awesome team.

After seeing the Hoenn sprites in Platinum, I like the Hoenn pokes a lot more.

 

[Cherrim]

Reasons RSE was good:
→ Nosepass
→ Double battles
→ Secret bases were kinda cool
→ Running shoes
→ Contests
→ Braille was kinda cool too
→ TV had a point
→ edit: forgot about berries!

Reasons RSE sucked:
→ Water. I hate surfing. So much.
→ Most Pokemon designs were unimaginative, too complex and looked like Digimon
→ Water
→ TOO MANY LEGENDARIES
→ annoying bike system
→ Took out day/night system
→ Plot that made no sense
→ Water
→ no huge change to the plot or mechanics in Emerald
→ Water
→ Too many exclusives and events
→ Water
→ Dive

...I think that's about it.

 

[Pocchama01]

I liked the third gen a lot. I even played through emerald 4 times in a couple weeks :). I think the pokemon in this gen where some of the best (along with 2nd gen) if you go by appearence. I do agree that there is too much water though :\...

 

[Satoshi Ookami]

Reasons RSE sucked:
→ Water. I hate surfing. So much.
→ Most Pokemon designs were unimaginative, too complex and looked like Digimon
→ Water
→ TOO MANY LEGENDARIES
→ annoying bike system
→ Took out day/night system
→ Plot that made no sense
→ Water
→ no huge change to the plot or mechanics in Emerald
→ Water
→ Too many exclusives and events
→ Water
→ Dive

Well ya sure... like water xD
Imo legendary part was great ;)

 

[FreakyLocz14]

Reasons RSE was good:
→ Nosepass
→ Double battles
→ Secret bases were kinda cool
→ Running shoes
→ Contests
→ Braille was kinda cool too
→ TV had a point
→ edit: forgot about berries!

Reasons RSE sucked:
→ Water. I hate surfing. So much.
→ Most Pokemon designs were unimaginative, too complex and looked like Digimon
→ Water
→ TOO MANY LEGENDARIES
→ annoying bike system
→ Took out day/night system
→ Plot that made no sense
→ Water
→ no huge change to the plot or mechanics in Emerald
→ Water
→ Too many exclusives and events
→ Water
→ Dive

...I think that's about it.

LOL @ Nosepass.... you are a strange Pokemon indeed

I agreed that ot sucked no huge changes were made in Emerald, you said water twice so it REALLY must have annoyed you though I hate surfing I did like that the Surf speed was faster. Taking out the Day/Night system was one the biggest letdowns.

All in all they were good games that kept me entertained until I got Pearl Version.

 

[~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~]

I actually dont have a problem with the 3rd generation other than too many legendaries (still are too many Psychic type legendaries). What made the 3rd generation good was the Pokemon Contest (until the 4th generaion which blew it away) and the Battle Frontier (which is the best one in my opinion)


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