Atheism

[Chibi Robo]

It evolved with every new discovery. Darwin's theory was an early idea for it. Its like the first cars. Compare them to today. New information, technology, and insight has brought about rapid advancements to cars. The same goes for the theory of evolution. Its changed like that, new discoveries, technologies, and such have brought about advancements to the theory to fit with modern knowledge. Like the car, the original concept serves as the base for the modern version. It is changes and continues to change. I'm not well versed enough in the actual current theory to explain the specific detail of how it changed, but this is just how the scientific method works. The scientific method is designed to weed out what has been proven untrue and to promote those with significant evidence. Without either of the above, it proves to be indifferent towards them. Religion falls into the indifferent category. Although it can't be proven wrong, for which I give it its credit as possible for, it also has little to no evidence to prove it at all.

Im sorry but the main idea of evolution still is based off of the idea that I look similar to a monkey. And the theory that I evolved from a monkey in a million year timespan. But there is just one problem.

How is it that you can find fossils of the first and last lets say "stages", but you have not found any of the 3 middle "stages"?

 

[lx_theo]

Im sorry but the main idea of evolution still is based off of the idea that I look similar to a monkey. And the theory that I evolved from a monkey in a million year timespan. But there is just one problem.

How is it that you can find fossils of the first and last lets say "stages", but you have not found any of the 3 middle "stages"?

Yeah, they have, look it up. Not to mentioned two things. First, its not based on that you look like a monkey. To boil it down to something so simple and wrong is just... absurd. Secondly, its not as plain and simple as 5 stages. Evolution is a process, not a jump to the next stage type thing. Has anything, anywhere, in all of time and space every been that simple? No.

 

[Zameric]

I'm don't have a religion personally because of experiences and information I have accumulated throughout my life. To, religion was just an invention of man to help explain his surrounding and the laws of nature. But the development of science and the scientific method has also explained these things in a more realistic way. I know that religion will probably never disappear, nor do I try to force it to. Religion can coexist with science in a benevolent manner.

And I have to say that I don't like the way Atheist/People of no religion are portrayed and the media. Most of them make us out to be hateful bigots that just want to over throw all of religion, when that's actually only a small, and stupid, radical portion.

 

[Caelus]

Well, I believe in a God, a Heaven and Hell, as well as my lord and savior, so I consider myself a christian.

That said, I'm a pretty lax christian. :/

 

[Rich Boy Rob]

Atheists actually have faith in a few things actually. Evolution for one :3
Really nobody can tell if evolution happened because nobody was there to record it. Even though Atheists have been proven wrong with the evolution theory, like the fact that no missing link fossils have ever been discovered. You still have faith that evolution is correct and nothing else is.
troll pl0x.

Just thought I'd jump in here and point out that missing link fossils have been found. Didn't you here about Ida last year? [LINK]
She is a suspected missing link between Lemurs and Primates. The reason no other "missing links" have been found are because of how infinitely tiny your chances of being fossilized are. It's not as if everything that dies fossilizes, there have to be perfect conditions.

Also, as for there being no proof for evolution, any person who's paid any attention during just part of a GCSE grade biology class will tell you otherwise. For example there are certain moths that survive due the fact their white wings camouflage them with the tree they land on and the ones born with black wings get eaten. However when pollution kills the lichens on these trees they go black, so you have huge areas where only the black winged ones have survived, as their mutations helped them adapt. Oh yeah and how about bacteria? Say someone takes to many anti-biotics, they kill off all the bacteria in them right? Wrong sometimes a bacteria mutates, creating an immune strain of this bacteria. So then once the anti-biotics are taken, all the non-immune bacteria are killed, leaving plenty of space for the bacteria to multiply and thrive in (case and point: MRSA). Both of those are blindingly clear examples of natural selection, AKA the baseline of evolution.

 

[SalemGreen]

Im sorry but the main idea of evolution still is based off of the idea that I look similar to a monkey. And the theory that I evolved from a monkey in a million year timespan. But there is just one problem.

How is it that you can find fossils of the first and last lets say "stages", but you have not found any of the 3 middle "stages"?

At this point I'm pretty sure you're just trolling and not actually serious, in which case I apologize for my last post and tell ya to keep on Trollin', but possibly take it to a non-serious thread?

 

[KillehKiwi]

I am Christian, believing in one God, and that Jesus Christ is and was our Savior.

But I really don't find myself overly-religious. I find the teachings of today to be.... generic, and the "gays-are-bad-don't-ever-have-sex-fear-God-and-do-everything-you're-told-without-question-b**** that people say Christians are about.

And it's pretty much true, people of my religion judge a LOT. I, personally, am not one of them. I say do what you want, it's you're life. I support people who aren't cookie-cutter, but different! ;D

But I am Christian because I do believe we can't have just... evolved. What could we have evolved from, if there wasn't a Creator to make it all?

I do hate the pressure of religion, however. My dad shoved it down my throat as a child, and I personally hate him for doing so. I wish I could have just made my choice to have a certain religion or not, but as long as I live under their roof, I basically have to be.

But I'm a pretty lax Christian, myself.

 

[NarutoActor]

Uh, you guys are so silly to think the bible is against science. There is nothing in the bible chronologically wrong, or scientifically wrong. God created the world, and human kind. He also gave us the gift that we may create too.

The creation theory has more evidence to support it, then the evolution theory. :3

 

[Rogue planet]

Uh, you guys are so silly to think the bible is against science. There is nothing in the bible chronologically wrong, or scientifically wrong. God created the world, and human kind. He also gave us the gift that we may create too.

The creation theory has more evidence to support it, then the evolution theory. :3

Have you ever actually read the entire bible, or ever studied evolution in detail?

 

[NarutoActor]

Yes to both. I had to study evolution for like a month in bio.

 

[Rogue planet]

Yes to both. I had to study evolution for like a month in bio.

A whole month! I'm sure your month of biology class at school is enough to disprove Darwin's years of work coming up with an actually intellectual explanation for the progression of species.

 

[Sneeze]

The creation theory has more evidence to support it, then the evolution theory. :3

You're trolling right?







...right?

 

[NarutoActor]

Its easier to teach something rather than experiment it, and learn it for your self.

 

[lx_theo]

Its easier to teach something rather than experiment it, and learn it for your self.

There isn't one logical piece of evidence for creationism I've seen. Evolution is based entirely on evidence. What have you got?

 

[Alex_]

Uh, you guys are so silly to think the bible is against science. There is nothing in the bible chronologically wrong, or scientifically wrong. God created the world, and human kind. He also gave us the gift that we may create too.

The creation theory has more evidence to support it, then the evolution theory. :3

Is that supposed to be a serious post?

 

[Reina]

I'm not exactly here to say what's right and what's wrong because everyone's entitled to their own beliefs.

I follow mostly LaVeyan Satanist beliefs, so you could consider me that more or less, or just a plain 'ol agnostic.

 

[Trap-Eds]

I'm just gonna jump in and say that I am agnostic. I can't say that God doesn't exist, because I can't prove that. I also feel I can't say that He does exist, because, well I can't prove that either, and nothing has convinced me so far that some higer being is out there. I'm just going to practice good morals and live happily. :3

 

[Cherrim]

Just wanted to find out how many Pokeholics here are atheist. I am personally.

If you are, why are you?

If not, why are you not?

Simple enough.

Guys, guys, guys. Hey. Hey. Hey, guys. Remember that post? The post from the beginning of the thread? ♥ Yeah it asks you if you're an atheist and to explain yourself if you are. If you are not, it asks you to explain yourself if you aren't. That's all.

Now I realize that a thread like this will always delve into a debate of sorts, and that is fine, but remember that a debate is just that--a debate. When I start seeing name calling, or even people calling others' ideas "silly", then you're just being offensive. It is perfectly possible to debate theism and atheism without resorting to that.

This is toward both sides. We haven't gotten to the flamewar point yet but it's going down that road. So knock if off and debate this peacefully. If you cannot deal with people having different opinions than you without flaming them or their ideals, this is not the thread for you and I advise you to stop posting before infractions are handed out.

 

[PokemonLeagueChamp]

Uh, you guys are so silly to think the bible is against science. There is nothing in the bible chronologically wrong, or scientifically wrong. God created the world, and human kind. He also gave us the gift that we may create too.

The creation theory has more evidence to support it, then the evolution theory. :3

The Bible is, at least to some degree, chronologically wrong. There's no way in hell humans were among the first creatures on Earth(CAN we live on boiling lava?), so that part of Genesis at least, is wrong. And the Theory of Evolution(frankly, it oughta be a law by now)has far more concrete and supporting evidence than creationism.

My theory: God caused the Big Bang, making the universe. Then he allowed things to work out for themselves across the universe, including the formation of life-forms on our and at least a few other planets(odds are infinitesmally small that we are the only planet in the universe with some form of life).

 

[Guillermo]

Guys, guys, guys. Hey. Hey. Hey, guys. Remember that post? The post from the beginning of the thread? ♥ Yeah it asks you if you're an atheist and to explain yourself if you are. If you are not, it asks you to explain yourself if you aren't. That's all.

Now I realize that a thread like this will always delve into a debate of sorts, and that is fine, but remember that a debate is just that--a debate. When I start seeing name calling, or even people calling others' ideas "silly", then you're just being offensive. It is perfectly possible to debate theism and atheism without resorting to that.

This is toward both sides. We haven't gotten to the flamewar point yet but it's going down that road. So knock if off and debate this peacefully. If you cannot deal with people having different opinions than you without flaming them or their ideals, this is not the thread for you and I advise you to stop posting before infractions are handed out.

You're just being silly, Erica. Gosh.

Also, about the whole evidence thing, how did a thread on religion turn to evolution? Seriously, there's no evidence there was a man named Jesus who came along and turned water to wine, gave blind people their sight back and then died on a cross for it all. You can say the Bible is evidence, and yes it kind of is, but I personally do not believe a book talking about Jesus is enough to base an entire religion off of. All the readings and stories of Jesus came well after his death, from people who had never met an earthly Jesus and based their beliefs on what their ancestors told them.

There's holes in Christianity, as there is in every other religion.