The Art of RNG [RNG Guide & Discussion]

[Griffinbane]

Wondercards are actually the easiest to RNG. After calibration, you fly to a Pokemon Center that has no wandering NPCs, save, and do your frame advancements. Don't forget the in-between steps!

 

[Gonzo]

I've never rng'd before, but read the first post. Is it possible to rng the shiny dialga that I downloaded today? I still haven't picked it up yet, but I was wondering if rng of a shiny wondercard pokemon is actually possible and what my different steps would be.

http://nuggetbridge.com/breeding/5th-generation-wonder-card-an-rng-guide/

I can recommend this guide with my whole heart since I'm its author, lol.

 

[Tyrael]

Done these within the past few weeks. With two jobs and being a full time student, haven't had too much time to really do much RNG'ing :(

#175 Togepi ♀ (level 1)

OT:

A ♂ (Black, 65208/27161)
Timid - Serene Grace - 31/0/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Growl - Charm - Nasty Plot - ***

#216 Teddiursa ♂ (level 1)

OT:

A ♂ (Black, 65208/27161)
Adamant - Pickup - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Leer - Lick - Fake Tears - Crunch

#198 Murkrow ♂ (level 1)

OT:

A ♂ (Black, 65208/27161)
Naughty - Super Luck - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Peck - Astonish - Brave Bird - ***

#133 Lucia♥ (Eevee) ♂ (level 1)

OT:

A ♂ (Black, 65208/27161)
Modest - Run Away - 30/2/30/31/31/31 - Untrained
Tail Whip - Tackle - Helping Hand - Hidden Power

#60 Poliwag ♀ (level 1)

OT:

A ♂ (Black, 65208/27161)
Modest - Swift Swim - 31/2/31/30/31/31 - Untrained
Water Sport - Hydro Pump - Ice Beam - Hidden Power

#220 Swinub ♂ (level 1)

OT:

A ♂ (Black, 65208/27161)
Jolly - Snow Cloak - 31/31/31/31/31/31 - Untrained
Tackle - Odor Sleuth - Icicle Spear - ***

#559 Scraggy ♀ (level 1)

OT:

A ♂ (Black, 65208/27161)
Brave - Moxie - 31/31/31/31/31/0 - Untrained
Leer - Low Kick - Fake Out - ***

 

[Omicron]

Did these today! :D

#179 Mareep ♀ (level 1)

OT:

Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Modest - Static - 31/10/30/31/31/31 - Untrained
Agility - Thunderbolt - Hidden Power - Substitute

#303 Mawile ♂ (level 1)

OT:

Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Adamant - Sheer Force - 31/31/31/14/31/31 - Untrained
Sucker Punch - Fire Fang - Ice Fang - AncientPower

#303 Mawile ♂ (level 1)

OT:

Omicron ♂ (White, 22450/51741)
Adamant - Hyper Cutter - 31/31/31/14/31/31 - Untrained
Sucker Punch - Fire Fang - Ice Fang - AncientPower

Dialga - SUM2013 - level 100 - #483
Quiet - Pressure - 31/31/31/31/30/31 - Untrained
Dragon Pulse - Draco Meteor - Aura Sphere - Roar of Time
(Hidden Power Steel 70) Yay for Fairy Crusher!

Dialga - SPR2013 - level 50 - #648
Quiet - Serene Grace - 31/31/31/31/30/31 - Untrained
Round - Teeter Dance - Psychic - Close Combat

 

[Gonzo]

SPOILER!

TwilightBlade allowed me to revamp her guide :D

There will be a breeding section added and I'll link my wondercard abuse guide I wrote for nuggetbridge.com and I'll link reliable source of videoguides for those who prefer to see the whole process rather than finding their own way. :)

If nothing urgent happens, I should get that done by Monday! Stay tuned B)

edit: oh yeah, forgot to mention: it'll be adjusted for BW2

 

[Sneaky Truth]

Ok not sure if this is a really stupid mistake or something, but this is really starting to annoy me.

I've just started to rng, trying to get a perfect shiny event palkia first before I try with out encounters. I've done all my calibration and i'm at the step where I generate a seed in the Time Finder window. After I get one I left click 'copy to clipboard' on the highlighted part, then I go to paste it into the RNG Reporter window, yet when I left click I don't get a drop-down window come up. Is there something i'm doing really wrong or is RNG reporter not behaving the way it should?

Thanks

 

[Absol]

Under Method did you change it to Wondercard (5th Gen)? And are you doing the Palkia on BW or B2W2? Also, screen shots will help too if you can do those. :)

 

[RingoH]

Hi All. I have missed you all, but took a break from other things to work on a new RNG project. Here I present my first Dream Radar abuse! Can not wait to find time to do some more of these:

#517 Munna ♀ (level 10)

OT:

EVNSTAR ♀ (White 2, 25278/29533)
Naughty - Telepathy - 26/30/30/26/26/30 - Untrained
Hidden Power -- Fighting / 70
Psywave - Defense Curl - Lucky Chant - Yawn

(Did not worry about nature on this one)

***NOTE: I edited my post to add more so as not to Double Post, additions are below:

I have a second Dream Radar abuse under my belt now, but this time I wanted to fine a seed to aim for a specific nature. I was working on a Riolu, and had an additional difficult to the fact I was aiming for a nature. Riolu was also NOT the slot #1 Pokemon, but the one in slot #3. I aimed for a Pokemon with a spread I wanted on about frame 50 to compensate for this, as I new my Riolu would be on frame 34 to start with, and I wanted to give myself a few chances to use the key link's spinner to verify my seed. According to my understand of the calculations, after my advances I should have landed on a Jolly nature. I did hit the spread I was aiming for, but landed on Impish for a nature. I really do not MIND the Impish Riolu, but I do not want to make this same mistake when I head out for my Kami Trio, or my Gen IV Legendaries. So I am trying to figure out what I may have done wrong while practicing.

It's not letting me hit Export BBCode for some reason, but here is the Legality Analysis of Riolu:
https://www.pokecheck.org/?screenshot=6357096&la

Also, does anyone know how gender is determined in the Dream Radar?

 

[Jaden23252]

Hey guys
It's been a while since i've posted here but i've been having a great time rnging i ve rnged my shiny osshawoot and riolu and many more rnges too bad I can't post yet because of the 15 post limit but Anyways
i need to ask you guys something
i need to rng me a wild drilbur in a cave but I don't know how to so anyone can give me a guide?

 

[Absol]

That's good to hear that you're enjoying yourself. :) Drillbur would be a cave spot RNG and I don't know of any guides for that specifically since it's basically wild capture but a little different than normal.

 

[Jaden23252]

thanks for the replay :)
the problem is that drilbur is appearing in dust clouds and I don't think that normal sweet scent would work right?
also when rnging wild pokes can you tell what moves it's gonna have?
thanks in advance

 

[Absol]

Sweet scent wouldn't work. You'll have to take steps and make sure to move exactly the same way each time and then compensate for the frames advanced to find what the actual starting frame is and then do your chatters before walking into the dust cloud. As for what moves the wild Pokemon will know, you can use a Pokedex to get an idea for what moves they learn at what level. Here's a link to Drillbur's Pokedex page if you need it.

 

[Plumpyfoof]

So I've been doing this for a while, I want to show you guys what I've come up with.

#123 Scyther ♂ (level 1)

OT:

Az ♂ (White, 28497/9704)
Adamant - Technician - 31/31/31/12/31/31 - Untrained
Quick Attack - Leer - Aerial Ace - Swords Dance

#304 Aron ♂ (level 1)

OT:

Az ♂ (White, 28497/9704)
Adamant - Rock Head - 31/31/31/4/30/31 - Untrained
Tackle - Head Smash - Iron Head - Earthquake

#246 Larvitar ♂ (level 26)

OT:

Az ♂ (White, 28497/9704)
Adamant - Guts - 31/31/31/5/31/31 - 156 HP/252 Att/100 Spd
Bite - Earthquake - Sandstorm - Stone Edge

#374 Beldum ♁ (level 10)

OT:

Az ♂ (White, 28497/9704)
Adamant - Clear Body - 31/31/31/15/31/31 - 50 HP/156 Att/128 Spd
Take Down - *** - *** - ***

#132 Ctrl-C (Ditto) ♁ (level 60)

OT:

Az ♂ (White, 28497/9704)
Jolly - Limber - 31/31/31/31/30/31 - Untrained
Transform - *** - *** - ***

I have a few others including shiny flawless Charizard, but I either stuffed the EVs by a few points or forgot to breed some egg moves.
Little things that are a little bit embarrassing.
I also lent my prize Lucario to my friend so he could sweep the E4 before I saved it on Pokecheck. :(

 

[aug4457081]

I'm new to this forum and joined partially to get tips on breeding and I came across this thread.

Through breeding I had planned to raise near perfect pokemon with perfect IVs and natures, which initially didn't seem too difficult, just time consuming. After skimming through the guide for RNG abuse it doesn't seem like it'd be too difficult once one has the hang of it, and it seems less time consuming.

I guess my real question is, what is the general opinion RNG abuse, and is it worth it to learn if I had planned on breeding perfect pokemon and battling with them?

 

[Plumpyfoof]

I guess my real question is, what is the general opinion RNG abuse, and is it worth it to learn if I had planned on breeding perfect pokemon and battling with them?

First off, welcome.

As for your question; It's kind of 50/50 with opinions on RNG, there's a whole thread on RNG abuse vs Shiny Hunting check that out for the opinions. I for one am so glad I learnt this, I don't feel I'm cheating because really I'm just leveraging the game to my advantage.

If you are absolutely going to raise flawless Pokemon one way or another, this (for Gen IV and V at least) will save you so much time. It took me maybe a day to get my head around how everything worked and then after a few attempts it becomes easier and easier to replicate good results.
The most fun thing is not telling your friends, entering battles with them, and unexpectedly pulling out your flawless shinies. The power! Mwahah!

 

[aug4457081]

If you are absolutely going to raise flawless Pokemon one way or another, this (for Gen IV and V at least) will save you so much time.

Does the RNG guide at the beginning of this post not apply to X/Y? I mean granted I skimmed the post, but I didn't see anything that said it doesn't work for X/Y yet.

 

[TwilightBlade]

Does the RNG guide at the beginning of this post not apply to X/Y? I mean granted I skimmed the post, but I didn't see anything that said it doesn't work for X/Y yet.

There is no RNG guide for X/Y like before, but there is a trick to see the pattern of inheritance in the first egg. That trick's guide is here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=312140

 

[aug4457081]

There is no RNG guide for X/Y like before, but there is a trick to see the pattern of inheritance in the first egg.

Awesome thanks for sharing that.

Sorry if this isn't necessarily the correct thread for this and feel free to move it if it isn't, but is it likely a full on RNG guide like the one in this thread will be developed in the future for XY, or does the fact that the 3DS is not hackable yet hinder people from finding the algorithm to predict the patterns for eggs, shinnies, perfect IVs?

 

[TwilightBlade]

It's the latter, unfortunately. In the future, something could change and allow for RNG research.

 

[Aeroblast]

I think I need to move on in this game, therefore I've stopped breeding Klefkis for a while. Need to fill that dex as much as possible.