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I was beated by Shadow Ball Raikou and Icicle Crash Weavile... Holy ****.
Weavile is really underrated, which is sad because it's really useful.
I was beated by Shadow Ball Raikou and Icicle Crash Weavile... Holy ****.
Weavile would be great if we didn't had a meta full of Stealth Rock. But it runs Ice Punch on the LO set.
So I wanna make the transition into VGC competitions, would anyone be willing to tutor me or just give me some pointers? Maybe help me analyze my OU team and see if it's viable for VGC doubles?
Edit: also just from what little experience I have on Battle Spot I feel like in VGC I'm gonna have to spam a lot of Smogon Banned stuff like Prankster, Double Team/Evasion hax, Mega Kanga/Gengar, etc. is it right to assume this?
I've honestly never seen anyone using evasion exploits in doubles battle spot anyways - besides once back in B/W with a dang Chansey. Prankster isn't swagon banned so far as I know though, and Mega Kanga / Gengar are very present, but kinda run out of town quickly since they draw a lot of attention. They have to fit protect onto that moveset if they want to be a lasting threat in doubles imo.
Sometimes you can't afford a miss, You lose a battle for this. And sometimes you NEED to have that perfect attack.
About OU, I have to say that I really disagree with you. It's up to you to make things work. Ok, Somethings are usless and outclassed but that's logic. It's not that hard to see what works and what doesn't work.
And... What do you mean with imagination?.
Actually, That's not that logic. Some pokes from BL, UU, Damm even RU! are used in OU. If something is from a tier under OU, It just takes a bit of time and a small research on Internet. To see why it's on another tier or what outclasses it on another tier. It's logic. Why I'm going to use something that sucks against what everybody is running?, You need a Check/Counter for certain pokes.
Of course, OU haves broken stuff running wild (I'm looking to you, MegaMeta, Mega Sableye...) But, It's just a matter of time until they're gone for good if you ask me.
Excuse me???. So, Everybody who plays on OU sucks at pokemon and runs the same teams for you?, That's not even logic. It's stupid as can be if you ask me. OU isn't ruled by Dragons on the actual meta, If you didn't knew about it.
I played UU the whole afternoon today, And I saw pretty generic teams too. It's not a tier thing, It's how things work. You can be creative as you want, But sooner or later you notice that you can't be THAT creative
Um, That's wrong. It's not about the BST sometimes. Some pokes are just outclassed by others with a better ability, Or a better BST spread.
PS: Mawile and Blaziken are banned from OU.
PSS:
Miss on Lando-T when you predicted well says hi.
Third, when influenced by Victory Star (remember Victini?) Icicle Crash has perfect accuracy, so missing's not a problem.
At what point did I say that Victory Star boosts the whole team? That's right. I didn't.Victory Star only works for Victini itself and any allies it has out in doubles/triples, not for the entire team.
I read your post, And I say my thoughts.
It's pretty much the same thing, With different words. And yes, There's that kind of people. But most of them are noobs and they can make things work.
Why should I???. There's nothing wrong with it.
And, Plat answered already to that.
At what point did I say that Victory Star boosts the whole team? That's right. I didn't.
I understand, But if logic is not a part of your argument. This is what happens.
Of course, All of us have different points of view. And different ways to say things.
It could be worse. It could've been Sap Sipper Azu.Mfw I see x scissor excadrill, can we ban stupid ass set shits pls ;/
I think that the issue here is that you're talking about doubles, and Archer/Platinum/etc are talking about singles. Victory Star doesn't help anyone besides Victini in singles.At what point did I say that Victory Star boosts the whole team? That's right. I didn't.
It could be worse. It could've been Sap Sipper Azu.
I think that the issue here is that you're talking about doubles, and Archer/Platinum/etc are talking about singles. Victory Star doesn't help anyone besides Victini in singles.
....But guys, let's not get into another "discussion" about Smogon and/or its tier system. We've been through this like 2 or 3 times in this thread alone already, and it never does anything constructive. If you have a beef with Smogon and/or the tier system, I think that the more appropriate thread to post in would be this one here called "Flaws in the Metagame".
Anyway, when is Rock Head Tyrantrum gonna be usable on Showdown? It is legal now and I reeeeeeeeeally wanna use one.
Look, I'm not asking you to agree with my viewpoint (nobody else does, let alone understand it), but I am asking you to respect it. If I've agitated you I apologise, but give my opinions some thought.
I agree with some of what you're saying, but ferrealz I've exhausted this 'discussion' here like six days a week for almost a year now lol. Let's just PM each other about our loathing for tears and swagon and agree in secret, so this thread can just be mutual community grounds. Because this place is minimum 90% swagon supporters anyways, and you'll just get ridiculed for having different viewpoints than everyone else.
Rock Head Tyrantrum; please. Strong Jaw is neat, buuut... much better for Mega Sharpedo. It doesn't even fully compensate for the lack of stab on all those biting moves Tyrantrum has access to. Crunch on M Sharpedo thoooo - wrecks.
Don't laugh at me, but I'm kind of interested in a snow warning Aurorus too hahah. Just so I can have something that induces Hail, without using an Abomasnow. I don't like its face. Even though as bad as grass / ice is, it's better than rock / ice.
In OU yeah. Scarf set is probably nicer in UU where the overall speed of things is lower.Honestly I'm a bigger fan of Banded Tyrantrum. STAB Head Smash coming off of that base 121 attack will definitely punch some holes in stuff. I'm not too excited to use a Scarf set because that base 71 speed in OU is sort of underwhelming, even with the boost.