4th Gen Brendan in Johto

[austin00081]

This will probably be locked in 10 minutes, but I had a thought.

Thinking back on how R/S/E is ~2 years after G/S/C.
Brendan used to live in Johto before he moved to Hoenn, so wouldn't he still be in Johto when we were playing?
Should he have made an appearance in HG/SS?
maybe i'm just thinking about the manga too much.

 

[Franzo]

True but he would of been a lot younger and I suppose they didn't think about it that much anyway...

would be cool though :)

 

[Christopher]

what would he do say "hi" he has no pokemon before he comes to hoenn
I didn't pay close enough attention in R/S/E did Norman come from Johto too if so should he be atleast known about since he is obviously skilled enough yo become a gym leader

 

[Benjamin510]

what would he do say "hi" he has no pokemon before he comes to hoenn
I didn't pay close enough attention in R/S/E did Norman come from Johto too if so should he be atleast known about since he is obviously skilled enough yo become a gym leader

Ah... That is not revealed, Maybe he moved there before. The Special manga, Who has the most details and development, did not reveal this.

 

[ChrisTom]

I like this. Very interesting concept. I bet that maybe one game designer had put in a "little boy" sprite somewhere in the game and had that in mind. But other than that it isn't official or anything. I bet if anything it's the little boy in the middle of the pond in Violet City. Lame theory (as Brendan was naturally born with white hair) but it's the best I have.

Very good point though.

 

[Benjamin510]

I like this. Very interesting concept. I bet that maybe one game designer had put in a "little boy" sprite somewhere in the game and had that in mind. But other than that it isn't official or anything. I bet if anything it's the little boy in the middle of the pond in Violet City. Lame theory (as Brendan was naturally born with white hair) but it's the best I have.

Very good point though.

Its a hat........... You could see it being pushed down in one of the Concept arts, and also in the Special manga it is a hat, While he has Black like hair, and a splitting in his fore head.

 

[bobandbill]

IDK how 'official' the fact that he was from Johto is, or from what canon - mind saying where that fact came from? Say, if it was in the manga then that's different people to Gamefreak (who make the games) who said that, so that mans gameverse he wouldn't necessarily have come from Johto.

I'll leave this open and see what discussion comes from this I guess for now...

 

[Kendall]

I think you've got your timelines mixed up.

R/S/E and R/B/Y/FR/LG took place at the same time, three years BEFORE the events of G/S/C/HG/SS and D/P/PL. Brendan would have already been done with his journey during the Johto games.

But that's if you are talking about game canon. I'm not sure about manga canon.

 

[austin00081]

IDK how 'official' the fact that he was from Johto is, or from what canon - mind saying where that fact came from? Say, if it was in the manga then that's different people to Gamefreak (who make the games) who said that, so that mans gameverse he wouldn't necessarily have come from Johto.

I'll leave this open and see what discussion comes from this I guess for now...

There are many obvious signs that he moved from Johto to Hoenn.
In the game he is moving in, and I'm pretty sure the mom says something about johto, and in the manga it's pretty clear that he was from johto. If you are skeptic, just google it.

 

[bobandbill]

There are many obvious signs that he moved from Johto to Hoenn.
In the game he is moving in, and I'm pretty sure the mom says something, and in the manga it's pretty clear. If you are skeptic, just google it.

I'm not saying he doesn't in any occurance at all, but I'm just wondering about whether it's actually stated in game rather than in the manga, is all - because if it isn't directly said in the game that it's Johto he could have easily going by game verse (which is the only thing the main games work on ever since Yellow came about - other people create the other canons after all so stuff in the manga is basically in a different 'universe' to the games) come from, say, Kanto or just no particular region. TBH I don't recall his mother saying Johto specifically in RSE, just that they moved.

 

[redsaber5859]

Well, actually according to bulbapedia and serebii, thi timeline goes like this:
RBYFrLgRSECol -3 years later: GSCHGSSDPPt, 2 years later, XD

so it goes gen 1&3 then gens 2&4 then gen 3

go to bulbapedia pokemon timeline, its proof

 

[LethalTexture]

Games =/= manga.

R/S/E is three years before HG/SS, it is in the same timeline as Gen I and their remakes.

 

[sirboulevard]

I'm not saying he doesn't in any occurance at all, but I'm just wondering about whether it's actually stated in game rather than in the manga, is all - because if it isn't directly said in the game that it's Johto he could have easily going by game verse (which is the only thing the main games work on ever since Yellow came about - other people create the other canons after all so stuff in the manga is basically in a different 'universe' to the games) come from, say, Kanto or just no particular region. TBH I don't recall his mother saying Johto specifically in RSE, just that they moved.

In Ruby and Sapphire (Not in Emerald since they removed all references to Johto), in the house to the farthest South and East in Petalburg, one of the residents says that norman just moved there from Johto with his family, making the player character (Brendan OR May) from Johto. Since the two are interchangable they likely couldnt have a RS cameo of them since no one knows WHICH is canonly Norman's kid.

And about the hair thing. It is a hat. Check Brendan's Emerald 3D model in Pokemon XD.

THATS BROWN HAIR PEOPLE. Yes, in the manga he has black hair and a cut, but in the games hes brown hair with a hat.

 

[Chaos Rush]

This will probably be locked in 10 minutes, but I had a thought.

Thinking back on how R/S/E is ~2 years after G/S/C.
Brendan used to live in Johto before he moved to Hoenn, so wouldn't he still be in Johto when we were playing?
Should he have made an appearance in HG/SS?
maybe i'm just thinking about the manga too much.

All 4th Gen games take place 3 years after the 3rd Gen games. Therefore, by the time Ethan/Lyra are traveling through Johto, Brendan/May have already finished their Hoenn journeys 3 years earlier.

Also, I don't think it's canon anymore that Brendan/May used to live in Johto. Why?

In Ruby/Sapphire, it's stated by an NPC in Petalburg City that Norman's family used to live in Johto. However, in Emerald, that dialogue was altered so that the NPC now states that Norman's family used to live "somewhere far away". Therefore, as of Pokemon Emerald, the R/S/E protagonists never lived in Johto, and instead, they lived "somwhere far away".

 

[NatureKeeper]

Gen I, III and V occured at the same time, while II, IV and the future VI if possible will all be the same time, according to Bulbapedia. Brendan moved before Gold even started his adventure, when Gold was still 7. (Yes, three years.)
And in third-versions (Platinum and Emerald), they got rid of most references to Johto. They wanted to hide the idea of the then-unknown HeartGold and SoulSilver.

EDiT 1: @Chaos Rush: I sware I didn't read your post before I wrote this. XD

EDIT 2: Oh, and:
If I am wrong, HGSS would need a future time travel to communicate with DPPt, and and the same goes for RSE and FRLG. And since the D\P Gen VI remakes will be able to normally comunicate with the paired versions, it is OK. Of course, B&W Gen VII remakes will also connect to the paired versions, as well as connecting to the Gen V RSE remakes. So, that proves it. So all Odd Generations occur in the same time, and all Even Generation occur in the same time, 3 years later of odd Gens.

Timeline of video games.

<---Odd Generations(Includes SpinOff Games)|--?? time-->Pokémon Ranger|--Three Years-->Even Generations (Includes SpinOff games)|--Two Years-->Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness--->

 

[Chaos Rush]

Gen I, III and V occured at the same time, while II, IV and the future VI if possible will all be the same time, according to Bulbapedia. Brendan moved before Gold even started his adventure, when Gold was still 7. (Yes, three years.)

It has not yet been confirmed when Gen V takes place. Logically, it would be safe to assume that it takes place at the same time as Gen I and III, but I have a feeling that they might just do a new time line altogether...

And in third-versions (Platinum and Emerald), they got rid of most references to Johto. They wanted to hide the idea of the then-unknown HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Wrong. Platinum actually ADDED references to Johto.

Emerald was used to scrub almost all references to other regions, though.

There's only 2 references to other regions in all of Pokemon Ruby & Sapphire. An NPC in Petalburg talks about Johto, while an NPC in Lilycove talks about Kanto. In Emerald, the Petalburg NPC had it's dialogue changed so that Johto isn't mentioned, but the NPC in Lilycove did not get changed, and he still talks about Kanto in Emerald.

 

[Tanaki]

I doubt he'd be in Johto. He could possibly be visiting, but he already supposedly lived there, I would think it's safe to assume that he'd venture to new places he hasn't been before to continue his journey. As for the timeline, that's just a steaming pile of poop right there. There are so many inconsistencies it's just fascinating to watch nintendo try to rectify them only to make a new game and just open up a whole new can of lolsauce and open up even more plotholes.

 

[GlitchCity]

Games =/= manga.

R/S/E is three years before HG/SS, it is in the same timeline as Gen I and their remakes.

The manga throws me off the timeline a bit (mostly because the characters are older now; FRLGHGSS)

 

[Nikorasu]

what would he do say "hi" he has no pokemon before he comes to hoenn
I didn't pay close enough attention in R/S/E did Norman come from Johto too if so should he be atleast known about since he is obviously skilled enough yo become a gym leader

It doesn't really matter whether brendan has a pokemon or not..
It would of been nice to see him as a kid and see more of a backstory for him.

 

[vietazn654]

Didn't R/S/E come 3 years BEFORE HG/SS? That's why we can't see him in the games, since he/and/or May moved to Hoenn 3 years ago.