6th Gen Confirmed Information Discussion

[RandomDSdevel]

Just look at how they acknowledged the Game Corner's removal here:

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They literally closed it down, with a little message on it.

Well, that's a nice little nod to all of the people who've visited the Game Corners over the years, isn't it?

 

[Hikamaru]

Guys, I apparently heard a rumor that the Move Tutor moves cost BP which is what most people don't want. That means you pretty much have to deal with the cheaters in the Battle Maison again, so that's a huge disappointment if it's true.

Edit: Apparently it is true, according to this guy: Click here, but heavy spoilers ahead

The Tumblr post linked there also revealed some more stuff:

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• The starter's Mega Stone (Sceptilite/Blazikenite/Swampertite) is obtained from Steven on Route 120, after the encounter with Kecleon on the bridge.
• Steven will take you to see Latios/Latias after 5th Gym where it will join forces with you. The Lati can be called upon at any time with the Eon Flute to fly around, and it doesn't need to be in your party to do this.
• Delta Episode begins immediately after the end credits, and you encounter a Lv80 Deoxys. It can't be caught sadly.
• Professor Birch offers you a choice of Chikorita, Cyndaquil or Totodile in the postgame. They still have the standard Overgrow/Blaze/Torrent abilities.
• The tutor for the starters' Pledge Moves is found in Mauville City. It can be tutored to all starters as usual.
• Eevee will evolve into Leafeon when leveled up at the Moss Rock in Petalburg Woods, and Glaceon at the Icy Rock in Shoal Cave.

 

[Altius]

I'm actually quite upset that there's no gym leader rematches so far...

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Ugh. I'm honestly sick of Looker appearing in every game since his introduction... And I think I'm in the minority who really disliked the XY Lumiose mission. Really hope he doesn't have another mission in ORAS.

 

[Hikamaru]

I'm actually quite upset that there's no gym leader rematches so far...

But remember how the Trainer's Eyes worked in the originals... the only possible rematches were regular trainers along with Wally. Brendan/May weren't because they quit being trainers, but given they'll likely now Mega Evolve their starter it seems like we may be able to rematch them this time around.

 

[RedJ]

Guys, I apparently heard a rumor that the Move Tutor moves cost BP which is what most people don't want. That means you pretty much have to deal with the cheaters in the Battle Maison again, so that's a huge disappointment if it's true.

Edit: Apparently it is true, according to this guy: Click here, but heavy spoilers ahead

I'll take doing a few Single Battles (those seemed easiest for me) at the Maison and using BP from PokeBank over looking for dust clouds in caves and hoping I happen to find a shard <_< Plus from what I've seen floating around of the tutor moves, they don't cost much (8-12 points for what's been discovered so far).

 

[cmtthws92]

The opening cutscene to Omega Ruby:

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL2Bj8_cWnU

They kept the beginning true to its original but more beautiful.

Now why couldn't they keep the original to HG/SS?

 

[Hikamaru]

I'll take doing a few Single Battles (those seemed easiest for me) at the Maison and using BP from PokeBank over looking for dust clouds in caves and hoping I happen to find a shard <_< Plus from what I've seen floating around of the tutor moves, they don't cost much (8-12 points for what's been discovered so far).

I was also thinking they'd cost BP because shards didn't exist in X/Y either, so it's safe to assume shards don't exist in 6th Gen as a whole.

 

[Altius]

But remember how the Trainer's Eyes worked in the originals... the only possible rematches were regular trainers along with Wally. Brendan/May weren't because they quit being trainers, but given they'll likely now Mega Evolve their starter it seems like we may be able to rematch them this time around.

Hmmm? I'm not referring to the rival. I'm quite positive they'll have future rematches because of mega evolution.

Anyway, less than a day left. No words can describe my excitement.

 

[Hikamaru]

The opening cutscene to Omega Ruby:

Spoiler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL2Bj8_cWnU

They kept the beginning true to its original but more beautiful.

Now why couldn't they keep the original to HG/SS?

I like how they kept some elements of the original opening but also added some new stuff as well. It's really delicious!

 

[Altius]

This one caught me ENTIRELY by surprise.

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Apparently you can also receive Unova starters.
https://instagram.com/p/vm0IrsNaP0/

 

[Pendraflare]

This one caught me ENTIRELY by surprise.

Spoiler:

Apparently you can also receive Unova starters.

OH MY GOODNESS ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

Well, if they have their hidden abilities (which I somehow doubt but REALLY hope), that would definitely make it worthwhile.

 

[Altius]

OH MY GOODNESS ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

Well, if they have their hidden abilities (which I somehow doubt but REALLY hope), that would definitely make it worthwhile.

Don't think they'll have the HAs because the Johto batch didn't have them.

 

[Pendraflare]

Don't think they'll have the HAs because the Johto batch didn't have them.

Ugh, that's really disappointing. TROLL FREAK Y U NO GIVE US HA JOHTO AND UNOVA STARTERS?!?!

Seriously, they're the only ones who haven't been released yet. Considering HA starters from other regions were either catchable in XY (Kanto, Kalos) or released through events (Hoenn, Sinnoh), you'd think they would have passed them on here.

 

[RedJ]

Ugh, that's really disappointing. TROLL FREAK Y U NO GIVE US HA JOHTO AND UNOVA STARTERS?!?!

Seriously, they're the only ones who haven't been released yet. Considering HA starters from other regions were either catchable in XY (Kanto, Kalos) or released through events (Hoenn, Sinnoh), you'd think they would have passed them on here.

They may not be given to us, but if (emphasis on the 'if' since I haven't seen anything confirming that) Friend Safari's back they could always appear there, although with how it works leakers may not be able to find them until release.

 

[Hikamaru]

This one caught me ENTIRELY by surprise.

Spoiler:

Apparently you can also receive Unova starters.
https://instagram.com/p/vm0IrsNaP0/

Oh god that was totally unexpected. Oshawott needs me now.

But I'm picking Mudkip as my Hoenn starter... and now we are getting two more starters? Guess I may box my Swampert in the postgame after all but I'll still enjoy using it in the main story. Apparently they mentioned you can't get the Sinnoh starters sadly, meaning you still need Pokemon Bank to get those guys.

I guess this is again, to allow 6th Gen-born starters for official tourneys? Like what they did by sticking all those legendaries in the game?

 

[Masterge77]

I called this one right from the beginning, and a tweet from a few months back only made it even more evident. It's always safe to assume the Game Corner will never be in any future games.

And it's all thanks to Europe and their anti-gambling laws that the Game Corner is a thing of the past. At least this means the 5 TMs (Thunderbolt, Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Double Team, Psychic) it had in the originals will now be found in an alternative location. But the question now is, where will these TMs now be found?

I really don't like how they removed the Game Corner because the Europeans hate gambling, because I always enjoyed playing those mini-games. Couldn't we just get an arcade with Pokemon-themed mini-games so we could play things safe, rather than taking it out completely? It's like because of this that Game Freak is embarrassed to even have the concept of a Game Corner that they won't have one ever again, much like anything related to Porygon in the anime. I loved playing the slots because they were a fun mini-game that you could enjoy that wasn't related to battles or contests (and I was never really big on contests), but now that's all we have are battles and contests now, no mini-games.

What about the prizes, where are we going to get those now? Also, what would happen if they decide to remake Gen 1 again, how would they explain the Team Rocket Hideout without completely rewriting that part of the story.

Now all we have left for mini-games are the Amie mini-games, imported straight from Kalos, when I rather have something new instead of something that was already in X/Y.

RIP Mauville Game Corner: 2002-2014

 

[Pendraflare]

Well, Thunderbolt and Ice Beam were available for free shortly after the fifth badge (by Wattson after doing New Mauville and in the Abandoned Ship respectively), and Psychic was in Victory Road, so I have a hunch that they might place those TMs in similar locations. But there are the dolls for the starters that were obtainable in that Game Corner, so they might move those to the Lilycove Department Store or something.

 

[Hikamaru]

What about the prizes, where are we going to get those now? Also, what would happen if they decide to remake Gen 1 again, how would they explain the Team Rocket Hideout without completely rewriting that part of the story.

The 5 TMs that were given as prizes (Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Psychic, Double Team) will likely be found in alternate locations to compensate for the axing of the Game Corner.

I understand that some enjoyed the Game Corner in the past but the games from here on will be nothing but kid-friendly.

Well, Thunderbolt and Ice Beam were available for free shortly after the fifth badge (by Wattson after doing New Mauville and in the Abandoned Ship respectively), and Psychic was in Victory Road, so I have a hunch that they might place those TMs in similar locations. But there are the dolls for the starters that were obtainable in that Game Corner, so they might move those to the Lilycove Department Store or something.

That could be a possibility, but there's also item shops for Secret Bases in Fortree City as well. But I think it might be the Department Store that the Hoenn starter dolls may be obtained.

 

[Masterge77]

The 5 TMs that were given as prizes (Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Psychic, Double Team) will likely be found in alternate locations to compensate for the axing of the Game Corner.

I understand that some enjoyed the Game Corner in the past but the games from here on will be nothing but kid-friendly.

You know, I feel like the games are being watered down anymore to be for younger and younger audiences, with little to no appeal to older fans at all. I know they were always kid's games, but seriously, it's not even real gambling, they could have just replaced it with regular mini-games like Pokemon-ified versions of classic arcade games and have it over with, I mean, what am I going to do when I'm not in the mood for constant battling (since I was never a big fan of contests) asides from not playing the games at all?

 

[BriCKson]

While I certainly don't think the game corners should of been taken out... I will say that the game corners were about the most frustrating thing I have ever come across.... I might of just been bad at them lol... but it seemed to take me ages to make any ground towards getting something.