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Dark Azelf
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Torterra@Choice Band
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Sp.Def
Adamant Nature
Trait: Shell Armour
- Earthquake
- Wood Hammer
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Sp.Def
Adamant Nature
Trait: Shell Armour
- Earthquake
- Wood Hammer
- Stone Edge
- Crunch
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Heatran @ Air Balloon
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Flash Cannon
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Ice
This Heatran has nothing to worry about, although Stone Edge might hurt a bit. Meanwhile, Fire Blast OHKOes easily.
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Flash Cannon
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Ice
This Heatran has nothing to worry about, although Stone Edge might hurt a bit. Meanwhile, Fire Blast OHKOes easily.
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Slowking @ Leftovers
Ability: Own Tempo
EV: 252 HP/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 4 Sp. Def
Modest Nature
- Scald
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power Ground
- Psychic
Before Air Balloon pops:
252+ SpA Slowking Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 228-270 (70.3 - 83.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
After Air Balloon pops:
252+ SpA Slowking Hidden Power Ground vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 228-272 (70.3 - 83.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
This is the highest damaging move Heatran can use:
252 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Slowking: 90-107 (22.9 - 27.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Mega Latias:
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Stored Power
-Recover
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/160 Def/100 Spe
Item: Latiasite
The lack of Ice Beam gives Mega Latias the freedom to use Slowking as setup bait for Sub + Calm Mind. It OHKOes Slowking at +5 Special Attack and Special Defense. In case anyone's wondering, Latias gained Stored Power as a level-up move in OR/AS: https://pastebin.com/16baa7Yk
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Stored Power
-Recover
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/160 Def/100 Spe
Item: Latiasite
The lack of Ice Beam gives Mega Latias the freedom to use Slowking as setup bait for Sub + Calm Mind. It OHKOes Slowking at +5 Special Attack and Special Defense. In case anyone's wondering, Latias gained Stored Power as a level-up move in OR/AS: https://pastebin.com/16baa7Yk
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Bisharp @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch
- Pursuit
I don't think I need to calc this. 100% done latios. No living this.
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Sucker Punch
- Pursuit
I don't think I need to calc this. 100% done latios. No living this.
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I'm sorry but I'm not that good at this so I'll be a bit too cheap.
Bayleef @ Eviolite
Ability:OvergrowEVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Sp.DefCalm Nature
- Counter
- Leech Seed
- Reflect
- Synthesis
It'll impossible for bisharp to 2KO it, so it could just counter it or even set up reflect.
I use a bayleef similar to this one on doubles, it was harder to break than I tought (thanks random person who sent me the IV'd chikorita via wonder trade).
Bayleef @ Eviolite
Ability:OvergrowEVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Sp.DefCalm Nature
- Counter
- Leech Seed
- Reflect
- Synthesis
It'll impossible for bisharp to 2KO it, so it could just counter it or even set up reflect.
I use a bayleef similar to this one on doubles, it was harder to break than I tought (thanks random person who sent me the IV'd chikorita via wonder trade).
Dark Azelf
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That isnt a counter. Knock Off decimates Bayleef, even with eviolite. You also wont get to put a reflect up because Bisharp outspeeds you once it has hit you on the switch in.
...lol
Anyway, ill list here what doesnt counter that:
lol but seriously,
Salamence@Salamencite
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Sp.Def
Naive Nature
Trait: Moxie--->Aerialate
- Return
- Fire Blast
- Outrage
- Aqua Tail
...lol
Anyway, ill list here what doesnt counter that:
lol but seriously,
Salamence@Salamencite
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Sp.Def
Naive Nature
Trait: Moxie--->Aerialate
- Return
- Fire Blast
- Outrage
- Aqua Tail
Professor_Jared
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....I'm just going to take the safe route here, since Mega Salamence rips through the majority of the Overused meta game, and is pretty much guaranteed to get into the Uber category for ORAS.
Slowbro@Slowbroite
Trait: Regenerator ---> Shell Armor
252 HP/252 Def/6 Special Defense
Slack Off
Ice Beam
Scald
Calm Mind
Slowbro@Slowbroite
Trait: Regenerator ---> Shell Armor
252 HP/252 Def/6 Special Defense
Slack Off
Ice Beam
Scald
Calm Mind
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PFffffft
Slowbro
Take a nap
Venusaur@Venusaurite
252 Sp. Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Sp.Def
Modest Nature
Trait: Chlorophyll--->Thick Fat
- Sleep Powder
- HP Fire
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
Can take 2 of anything it has. Then Giga Drain to finish it with HP to spare
Slowbro
Take a nap
Venusaur@Venusaurite
252 Sp. Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Sp.Def
Modest Nature
Trait: Chlorophyll--->Thick Fat
- Sleep Powder
- HP Fire
- Sludge Bomb
- Giga Drain
Can take 2 of anything it has. Then Giga Drain to finish it with HP to spare
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Heatran@Leftovers
Calm Nature
248 HP/192 SpDef/68 Speed
Trait: Flash Fire
Flamethrower
Earth Power
Toxic
Taunt
252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 248 HP / 192+ SpD Heatran: 23-28 (5.9 - 7.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 SpA Heatran Flamethrower vs. 232 HP / 4 SpD Thick Fat Mega Venusaur: 104-126 (28.9 - 35%) -- 7.6% chance to 3HKO
Heatran can take a nap, taunt, and wall Venusaur in as much as it wants, before burning the plant monster to death slowly and painfully.
Calm Nature
248 HP/192 SpDef/68 Speed
Trait: Flash Fire
Flamethrower
Earth Power
Toxic
Taunt
252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 248 HP / 192+ SpD Heatran: 23-28 (5.9 - 7.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 SpA Heatran Flamethrower vs. 232 HP / 4 SpD Thick Fat Mega Venusaur: 104-126 (28.9 - 35%) -- 7.6% chance to 3HKO
Heatran can take a nap, taunt, and wall Venusaur in as much as it wants, before burning the plant monster to death slowly and painfully.
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Tentacruel @ Assault Vest
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EV: 4 HP/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 252 Sp. Def
Modest Nature
- Scald
- Sludge Wave
- Hidden Power Fire
- Hex
252 SpA Tentacruel Scald vs. 248 HP / 192+ SpD Heatran: 138-164 (35.8 - 42.5%) -- 91.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Simple enough. Taunt + Toxic does nothing to Tentacruel and Assault Vest lets it wall your attacks.
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Oh you tag teaming Venusaur? Well I have something to say about that
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Landorus-Therian (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Superpower
- Knock Off
0 SpA Heatran Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 147-174 (38.4 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 676-796 (175.5 - 206.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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252 SpA Tentacruel Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 67-80 (17.5 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0+ Def Tentacruel: 595-704 (197 - 233.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Landorus-Therian (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Superpower
- Knock Off
0 SpA Heatran Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 147-174 (38.4 - 45.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 676-796 (175.5 - 206.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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252 SpA Tentacruel Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 67-80 (17.5 - 20.9%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0+ Def Tentacruel: 595-704 (197 - 233.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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I SPENT WAAAAAY TO MUCH TIME ON THIS ONE TRYING TO GET A GRASS TYPE TO WORK
Tangrowth @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EV: 252 HP/ 252 Sp. Def
Bold Nature
- Energy Ball
- Ingrain
- Focus Blast
- Sunny Day
0 SpA Life Orb Tangrowth Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 153-180 (43.1 - 51%) -- 5.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 125-148 (30.9 - 36.6%) -- 68.5% chance to 3HKO
Tangrowth @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EV: 252 HP/ 252 Sp. Def
Bold Nature
- Energy Ball
- Ingrain
- Focus Blast
- Sunny Day
0 SpA Life Orb Tangrowth Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 153-180 (43.1 - 51%) -- 5.1% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Landorus-T Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 125-148 (30.9 - 36.6%) -- 68.5% chance to 3HKO
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Professor_Jared
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Alright then time for a customized Tangrowth counter.
Charizard@Charizardite X
Adamant Nature
Trait: Blaze ---> Tough Claws
144 HP/240 Attack/8 Def/4 SpDef/112 Speed
Dragon Claw
Flare Blitz
Dragon Dance
Roost
0 SpA Life Orb Tangrowth Focus Blast vs. 144 HP / 4 SpD Mega Charizard X: 139-164 (41.7 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
240+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Tangrowth: 428-506 (105.9 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Comes in, takes a focus blast to the face like a boss, and OHKOes Tangrowth with Flare Blitz.
Charizard@Charizardite X
Adamant Nature
Trait: Blaze ---> Tough Claws
144 HP/240 Attack/8 Def/4 SpDef/112 Speed
Dragon Claw
Flare Blitz
Dragon Dance
Roost
0 SpA Life Orb Tangrowth Focus Blast vs. 144 HP / 4 SpD Mega Charizard X: 139-164 (41.7 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
240+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Tangrowth: 428-506 (105.9 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Comes in, takes a focus blast to the face like a boss, and OHKOes Tangrowth with Flare Blitz.
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Aggron @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Head Smash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Superpower
252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Aggron: 135-160 (39.2 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 Atk Choice Band Aggron Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard X: 476-564 (160.2 - 189.8%)
'nuff said
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Head Smash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch
- Superpower
252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Aggron: 135-160 (39.2 - 46.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 Atk Choice Band Aggron Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mega Charizard X: 476-564 (160.2 - 189.8%)
'nuff said
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Just saying, Adamant should've been there for more power.
Anyway:
Mega Steelix:
-Heavy Slam
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Explosion
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Item: Steelixite
Ability: Sturdy
Mega Steelix laughs at even Aggron's super effective attacks and OHKOs back with Earthquake.
0 Atk Choice Band Aggron Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Steelix: 112-132 (31.6 - 37.2%) -- 84.1% chance to 3HKO
0 Atk Choice Band Aggron Superpower vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Steelix: 134-158 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
(all calcs done with Mega Steelix's stats)
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With Adamant Charizard X would 2HKO
Shaymin@Choice Specs
Modest
Natural Cure
252 Def 252 Sp Atk 4 HP
- Earth Power
- Seed Flare
- Synthesis
- Air Slash
252 Atk Steelix Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Shaymin: 151-178 (44.2 - 52.1%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Steelix Explosion vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Shaymin: 209-247 (61.2 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Steelix Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Shaymin: 85-100 (24.9 - 29.3%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
Shaymin Shrugs off your moves, even if Stone Edge Crits, and-
252+ SpA Choice Specs Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Steelix: 382-450 (107.9 - 127.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Shaymin Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Steelix: 384-452 (108.4 - 127.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Wrecks
Shaymin@Choice Specs
Modest
Natural Cure
252 Def 252 Sp Atk 4 HP
- Earth Power
- Seed Flare
- Synthesis
- Air Slash
252 Atk Steelix Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Shaymin: 151-178 (44.2 - 52.1%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Steelix Explosion vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Shaymin: 209-247 (61.2 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Steelix Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Shaymin: 85-100 (24.9 - 29.3%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
Shaymin Shrugs off your moves, even if Stone Edge Crits, and-
252+ SpA Choice Specs Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Steelix: 382-450 (107.9 - 127.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Shaymin Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Steelix: 384-452 (108.4 - 127.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Wrecks
Professor_Jared
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Well since I have done Charizard X already, I figure wynaut Y too.
Charizard@Charizardite Y
Timid Nature
Trait: Blaze ---> Drought
252 Special Attack/4 Def/252 Speed
Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Focus Blast
Roost
252+ SpA Choice Specs Shaymin Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 100-118 (33.6 - 39.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Shaymin in Sun: 626-738 (183.5 - 216.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Burn baby burn.
Charizard@Charizardite Y
Timid Nature
Trait: Blaze ---> Drought
252 Special Attack/4 Def/252 Speed
Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Focus Blast
Roost
252+ SpA Choice Specs Shaymin Air Slash vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard Y: 100-118 (33.6 - 39.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Mega Charizard Y Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Shaymin in Sun: 626-738 (183.5 - 216.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Burn baby burn.
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I'm lazy and about to sleep, so I'm gonna take the obvious choice
Species: Chandelure
Trait: Flash Fire
Persona: Modest
Equipment: Choice Specs
Training: 252 Sp Atk 252 Sp Def, 4 HP
Battle Tactics:
Shadow Ball
Fire Blast
Energy Ball
Hidden Power Fairywaitnoyoucan'tdothat / Smog
Charizrd Y will outspeed. But he can't get even a 2hko with solar beam; which is his only option to even attack Chandelure. Chandelure's Fire Blast will 2hko; its shadow ball will 2hko; it just puts out too much offensive presence. Even roosting will just put Char Y in a downhill struggle.
btw do you like my terms for ability and stuff
Species: Chandelure
Trait: Flash Fire
Persona: Modest
Equipment: Choice Specs
Training: 252 Sp Atk 252 Sp Def, 4 HP
Battle Tactics:
Shadow Ball
Fire Blast
Energy Ball
Hidden Power Fairywaitnoyoucan'tdothat / Smog
Charizrd Y will outspeed. But he can't get even a 2hko with solar beam; which is his only option to even attack Chandelure. Chandelure's Fire Blast will 2hko; its shadow ball will 2hko; it just puts out too much offensive presence. Even roosting will just put Char Y in a downhill struggle.
btw do you like my terms for ability and stuff