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Mega Swampert would have been a little bit better, but I'm not particularly sure, how megas are handled here. Do you switch in the unevolved Pokemon first and let it mevo in the next turn, or can we just assume that the Pokemon is already mega evolved on the switch in?
We do it where the Pokemon is already mega evolved.

And for the Swampert counter:

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Rotom-Wash w/Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP, 212 Defense, 44 Speed
Moves: Volt Switch, Hydro Pump, Will-o-Wisp, Pain Split

Walls Swampert as it dies from burn damage.
 

rob_thijs

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Exeggutor @ Life Orb
Ability - Chlorophyll
Nature - Modest
EV's - 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Infestation
- Dream Eater
- Sleep Powder
- Giga Drain

I'm currently testing this one out, and I'm surprised it works quite well :P

252+ SpA Life Orb Exeggutor Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 172-203 (109.5 - 129.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Bidoof FTW

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I felt like doing something dumb and weird to counter this set.

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Abomasnow (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Soundproof
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Avalanche
- Wood Hammer
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake

252+ Atk Choice Band Abomasnow Avalanche vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Exeggutor: 584-690 (175.9 - 207.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Exeggutor Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 97-116 (25.2 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
 
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Feraligatr @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Attack/4 Defense/252 Speed
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Punch
- Dragon Dance

Victini is locked into Blue Flare, Feraligatr fears nothing.

252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 416-494 (121.9 - 144.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Feraligatr @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Attack/4 Defense/252 Speed
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Punch
- Dragon Dance

Victini is locked into Blue Flare, Feraligatr fears nothing.

252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 416-494 (121.9 - 144.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
what even :< not a counter cos gatr loses 1v1 vs victini. don't give me some bs excuse like "victini is choice locked into blue flare vs abomasnow". you have to assume victini is vs gate directly, not after facing abomasnow. get yo counters right people ;-;

countering victini instead:

chansey @ eviolite
natural cure
4 HP / 252 def / 252 spdef
bold nature
- toxic
- seismic toss
- softboiled
- heal bell
 

Nah

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-Gengar w/Black Sludge
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
Moves: Shadow Ball, Sludge Wave, Focus Blast, Taunt

Fuck yer Chansey
 

Zeffy

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hng why do you have to post something difficult to counter

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Vaporeon @Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Calm nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Scald
- Ice Beam

THAT'LL DO LAD, THAT'LL DO
 
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Oh, my bad. I was assuming that all of the scenarios were based off the last.

Ferrothorn @ Lum Berry
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Atk / 52 SpD
Brave Nature
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
- Protect

0 SpA Vaporeon Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 54-64 (15.3 - 18.1%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery

204+ Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Vaporeon: 390-462 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 

rob_thijs

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Flareon @ Choice Band
Ability - Flash Fire
Nature - Jolly
EV's - 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Flare Blitz
- Superpower
- Quick Attack
- Retailiate

204 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Flareon: 59-69 (42.1 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
204 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (145 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Flareon: 71-84 (50.7 - 60%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Ferrothorn: 444-528 (245.3 - 291.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Can take a hit and will outspeed the next turn to OKO it with Flare Blitz.
 

faf

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Lampent @ Life Orb
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
IV: 0 Spe
Quiet Nature (+Sp. Atk, -Spe)
- Trick Room
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball

Hard countered. And calc cause yee:
252+ SpA Life Orb Lampent Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Flareon: 140-165 (51.6 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

KorpiklaaniVodka

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Since I haven't posted in a while...

Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature

- Soft-Boiled
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Admittedly Ice Beam does next to nothing, but Toxic and Soft-Boiled allow Bliss to stall out Lampent no problem.
 
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Doublade @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Claw
- Iron Head
- Sacret Sword

should be self-explanatory
 

2Fruit

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Countering doublade:

Gliscor@ toxic orb
ability: Poison heal
EV's 252 HP 222 def 34 spatk
Modest nature

Knock off
hidden power fire
Roost
Taunt

Taunt stops dance, then knock off to get evio off, then hidden power fire
 

faf

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222 and 34 are not divisible by 4, just letting you know.

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Aurorus @ Choice Specs
Trait: Refrigerate
EVs: 4hp/252spa/252spe
Modest Nature (+Sp. Atk, -Atk)
- Freeze-Dry
- Nature Power
- Thunderbolt
- Dark Pulse

the lack of earthquake and toxic means ice dino can tank an hp fire (<10hko) and knock off (5hko with specs, will be 7hko later on) easily. it will lose its specs but nature power (which turns into tri attack) or freeze-dry are still clean kos, specs or not.
 
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Mawile @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Atk / 76 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Ice Fang

252+ SpA Choice Specs Aurorus Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 128-151 (42.1 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

180+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Aurorus: 684-808 (176.2 - 208.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Mr_Nelsy

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Mega-Steelix@Steelixite
Sand Force
252HP/252SpD/4Attk
Sassy-
Earthquake
Gyro Ball
Dragon Tail
Rock Slide

252+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 38-45 (10.7 - 12.7%) -- possible 8HKO
252+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Ice Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 37-44 (10.4 - 12.4%) -- possible 9HKO
252+ Atk Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 34-41 (9.6 - 11.5%) -- possible 9HKO
252+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 33-39 (9.3 - 11%) -- possibly the worst move ever

Mawile Can't Touch Mega Steelix however

4 Atk Mega Steelix Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mawile: 302-356 (99.3 - 117.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Steelix laughs and asks whose next!
 

Nah

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Up next is....

latest

-Kingler w/Choice Band
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 164 HP, 252 Attack, 88 Speed
Moves: Crabhammer, Knock Off, Superpower, X-Scissor

4 Atk Mega Steelix Earthquake vs. 164 HP / 0 Def Kingler: 117-138 (40 - 47.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Kingler Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 236-278 (66.6 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Mr_Nelsy

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Amoongus I choose you!
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Amoonguss @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpD
Bold Nature
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- Foul Play
- Clear Smog

252 Atk Choice Band Kingler Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Amoonguss: 162-191 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery


0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Kingler: 246-290 (97.6 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

Check Mate
 

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Combusken @ Eviolite
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 HP / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Baton Pass
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird

252+ Atk Combusken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Amoonguss: 330-390 (76.3 - 90.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
252+ Atk Combusken Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Amoonguss: 220-260 (50.9 - 60.1%) -- 86.7% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery


0 SpA Amoonguss Clear Smog vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Combusken: 48-57 (18.3 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO
 
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Relicanth @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Smash
- Double Edge
- Earthquake
- Waterfall

self-explanatory
 
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