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Counter that Pokemon! (READ THE FREAKING FIRST POST)

Nah

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    Mega Swampert would have been a little bit better, but I'm not particularly sure, how megas are handled here. Do you switch in the unevolved Pokemon first and let it mevo in the next turn, or can we just assume that the Pokemon is already mega evolved on the switch in?
    We do it where the Pokemon is already mega evolved.

    And for the Swampert counter:

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    Rotom-Wash w/Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP, 212 Defense, 44 Speed
    Moves: Volt Switch, Hydro Pump, Will-o-Wisp, Pain Split

    Walls Swampert as it dies from burn damage.
     

    rob_thijs

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    Exeggutor @ Life Orb
    Ability - Chlorophyll
    Nature - Modest
    EV's - 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    - Infestation
    - Dream Eater
    - Sleep Powder
    - Giga Drain

    I'm currently testing this one out, and I'm surprised it works quite well :P

    252+ SpA Life Orb Exeggutor Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 172-203 (109.5 - 129.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Bidoof FTW

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  • I felt like doing something dumb and weird to counter this set.

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    Abomasnow (M) @ Choice Band
    Ability: Soundproof
    Shiny: Yes
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Avalanche
    - Wood Hammer
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake

    252+ Atk Choice Band Abomasnow Avalanche vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Exeggutor: 584-690 (175.9 - 207.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252+ SpA Life Orb Exeggutor Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow: 97-116 (25.2 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
     
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  • Feraligatr @ Life Orb
    Ability: Sheer Force
    EVs: 252 Attack/4 Defense/252 Speed
    Adamant Nature
    - Waterfall
    - Crunch
    - Ice Punch
    - Dragon Dance

    Victini is locked into Blue Flare, Feraligatr fears nothing.

    252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 416-494 (121.9 - 144.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Feraligatr @ Life Orb
    Ability: Sheer Force
    EVs: 252 Attack/4 Defense/252 Speed
    Adamant Nature
    - Waterfall
    - Crunch
    - Ice Punch
    - Dragon Dance

    Victini is locked into Blue Flare, Feraligatr fears nothing.

    252+ Atk Life Orb Sheer Force Feraligatr Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Victini: 416-494 (121.9 - 144.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    what even :< not a counter cos gatr loses 1v1 vs victini. don't give me some bs excuse like "victini is choice locked into blue flare vs abomasnow". you have to assume victini is vs gate directly, not after facing abomasnow. get yo counters right people ;-;

    countering victini instead:

    chansey @ eviolite
    natural cure
    4 HP / 252 def / 252 spdef
    bold nature
    - toxic
    - seismic toss
    - softboiled
    - heal bell
     

    Nah

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    -Gengar w/Black Sludge
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Shadow Ball, Sludge Wave, Focus Blast, Taunt

    Fuck yer Chansey
     

    Zeffy

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    hng why do you have to post something difficult to counter

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    Vaporeon @Leftovers
    Ability: Water Absorb
    252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
    Calm nature
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam

    THAT'LL DO LAD, THAT'LL DO
     
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  • Oh, my bad. I was assuming that all of the scenarios were based off the last.

    Ferrothorn @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 252 HP / 204 Atk / 52 SpD
    Brave Nature
    - Power Whip
    - Gyro Ball
    - Leech Seed
    - Protect

    0 SpA Vaporeon Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 54-64 (15.3 - 18.1%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery

    204+ Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Vaporeon: 390-462 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    rob_thijs

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    Flareon @ Choice Band
    Ability - Flash Fire
    Nature - Jolly
    EV's - 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    - Flare Blitz
    - Superpower
    - Quick Attack
    - Retailiate

    204 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Flareon: 59-69 (42.1 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
    204 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (145 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Flareon: 71-84 (50.7 - 60%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 Atk Choice Band Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Ferrothorn: 444-528 (245.3 - 291.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Can take a hit and will outspeed the next turn to OKO it with Flare Blitz.
     

    faf

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    Lampent @ Life Orb
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
    IV: 0 Spe
    Quiet Nature (+Sp. Atk, -Spe)
    - Trick Room
    - Fire Blast
    - Shadow Ball
    - Energy Ball

    Hard countered. And calc cause yee:
    252+ SpA Life Orb Lampent Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Flareon: 140-165 (51.6 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

    KorpiklaaniVodka

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  • Since I haven't posted in a while...

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
    Bold Nature

    - Soft-Boiled
    - Ice Beam
    - Seismic Toss
    - Toxic

    Admittedly Ice Beam does next to nothing, but Toxic and Soft-Boiled allow Bliss to stall out Lampent no problem.
     
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    Doublade @ Eviolite
    Ability: No Guard
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Shadow Claw
    - Iron Head
    - Sacret Sword

    should be self-explanatory
     

    2Fruit

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    Countering doublade:

    Gliscor@ toxic orb
    ability: Poison heal
    EV's 252 HP 222 def 34 spatk
    Modest nature

    Knock off
    hidden power fire
    Roost
    Taunt

    Taunt stops dance, then knock off to get evio off, then hidden power fire
     

    faf

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  • 222 and 34 are not divisible by 4, just letting you know.

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    Aurorus @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Refrigerate
    EVs: 4hp/252spa/252spe
    Modest Nature (+Sp. Atk, -Atk)
    - Freeze-Dry
    - Nature Power
    - Thunderbolt
    - Dark Pulse

    the lack of earthquake and toxic means ice dino can tank an hp fire (<10hko) and knock off (5hko with specs, will be 7hko later on) easily. it will lose its specs but nature power (which turns into tri attack) or freeze-dry are still clean kos, specs or not.
     
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    Mawile @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Sheer Force
    EVs: 252 HP / 180 Atk / 76 SpD
    Adamant Nature
    - Play Rough
    - Sucker Punch
    - Iron Head
    - Ice Fang

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Aurorus Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Assault Vest Mawile: 128-151 (42.1 - 49.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    180+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Aurorus: 684-808 (176.2 - 208.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Mr_Nelsy

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    Mega-Steelix@Steelixite
    Sand Force
    252HP/252SpD/4Attk
    Sassy-
    Earthquake
    Gyro Ball
    Dragon Tail
    Rock Slide

    252+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 38-45 (10.7 - 12.7%) -- possible 8HKO
    252+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Ice Fang vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 37-44 (10.4 - 12.4%) -- possible 9HKO
    252+ Atk Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 34-41 (9.6 - 11.5%) -- possible 9HKO
    252+ Atk Sheer Force Mawile Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 33-39 (9.3 - 11%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    Mawile Can't Touch Mega Steelix however

    4 Atk Mega Steelix Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mawile: 302-356 (99.3 - 117.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
    Steelix laughs and asks whose next!
     

    Nah

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    Up next is....

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    -Kingler w/Choice Band
    Nature: Jolly
    Ability: Hyper Cutter
    EVs: 164 HP, 252 Attack, 88 Speed
    Moves: Crabhammer, Knock Off, Superpower, X-Scissor

    4 Atk Mega Steelix Earthquake vs. 164 HP / 0 Def Kingler: 117-138 (40 - 47.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252 Atk Choice Band Kingler Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Steelix: 236-278 (66.6 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     

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  • Amoongus I choose you!
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    Amoonguss @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpD
    Bold Nature
    - Spore
    - Giga Drain
    - Foul Play
    - Clear Smog

    252 Atk Choice Band Kingler Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Amoonguss: 162-191 (37.5 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery


    0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Kingler: 246-290 (97.6 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

    Check Mate
     

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  • Combusken @ Eviolite
    Ability: Speed Boost
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 HP / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Protect
    - Baton Pass
    - Flare Blitz
    - Brave Bird

    252+ Atk Combusken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Amoonguss: 330-390 (76.3 - 90.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
    252+ Atk Combusken Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Amoonguss: 220-260 (50.9 - 60.1%) -- 86.7% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery


    0 SpA Amoonguss Clear Smog vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Combusken: 48-57 (18.3 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO
     
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    Relicanth @ Choice Band
    Ability: Rock Head
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Head Smash
    - Double Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Waterfall

    self-explanatory
     
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