Debate: Post Counts

[Flaming Torchic]

If there?s any good, free resource for use, people will find a way to corrupt it or make it less useable for those will good intents. That?s why there are mods, to get rid of it and try to keep it as clean and enjoyable as possible.

Yup, that's why you and everyone else on the mod team get paid the big bucks Kairi ;)

 

[DragonTrainer]

Lol, we wish we got paid big bucks :P. We don't get paid anything actually, we get the joy of being able to help out others, which is more than some money could ever give us ;)

~DragonTrainer:dragonite

 

[Flaming Torchic]

Lol, we wish we got paid big bucks :P. We don't get paid anything actually, we get the joy of being able to help out others, which is more than some money could ever give us ;)

~DragonTrainer:dragonite

Obviously =P I was joking around. =P

One thing I also fear is that if you take rid of post counts, then you might lose activity. =\ Sure, there are some peopel who'll still post, but the people who worked hard to get to where they are right now might be greatly upset. I think that is one of the reasons PE2K lost A LOT of its active members.

 

[Teara]

One thing I also fear is that if you take rid of post counts, then you might lose activity. =\ Sure, there are some peopel who'll still post, but the people who worked hard to get to where they are right now might be greatly upset. I think that is one of the reasons PE2K lost A LOT of its active members.

Exactly my point. Everyone waitz for their 100 and 1000 and zo on poztz, it'z zomething to look forward to. I don't really underztand how getting rid of it will ztop zpammerz...how iz pozt count and zpam even related???
Man...I really need to learn more about computorz*.*

 

[DragonTrainer]

Well, postcount is a very big thing y'know. Has both it's Pro's and Con's, and a lot of them at that. It really would be better for everyone to kepp it, unless if we get a lot of SPAM or things like that, but we have everything under control

~DragonTrainer:dragonite

 

[Arcanine]

Remember that Time when we had the porn spammers? What was that about?

Yea it was a group of people that had a lot of free time on there hands. And I remember it happening on the old PC and also another time where me and Abby was the only ones on PC.

 

[Sakura and Espeon]

Yes, and it was a few days before the reset also. :D

 

[Dizzy]

I remember coming on that morning and signatures were turned off.

 

[^^NICK^^ v.2.0]

Warning: DO NOT FLAME OTHER PEOPLE DUE TO THEIR OPTION.

In this very disputable topic, if PC Post's don't have the post count number anymore, What would other people will feel about this and how it would effect the community as a whole? Would it make Spamming worse or make more people post quality posts than quanity. What do you feel about this?

I think that post doesn't really matter. Back in the old PC, I cared a lot about posts, but now, as you can see, it isn't a priority. What's the big deal. It's just a number.

 

[Flaming Torchic]

I think that post doesn't really matter. Back in the old PC, I cared a lot about posts, but now, as you can see, it isn't a priority. What's the big deal. It's just a number.

I guess some people see post count as a game, a game to see who can have the highest. I started becoming VERY active again in February, and came on everyday posting which got me to the post count I have noe, but I only did it because I wanted to get more involved with PC. Also at that point, I needed a break from SPPf.

 

[Arcanine]

Here is something to think about. Why do we even post? Why is most of the threads in MVP just a thread to get another post? Why post in the DCC? One time Alyssa said in there that she was working on her new vB forums. Now was there a point to that post? No, any one whould have known "She got vB and she is not on PC so she is working on her forums", so why did she post it? she wanted another number added to her post count. Her first post in Frosty's thread just said she was hurt and not to flame. Duh, every one knows not to flame and after all that she should be hurt. Half of her second post was just a relap what she is talking in this thread and the other half she copied from my post. Talking about how it's not all fun to be a Mod and thank you frosty. So her first and second post in there could have been good with out her posted. Her third post was complaining[font=&quot] about the forum she is a Mod in (again). Her fourth post was saying about that "How tall are you thread", you don't think I forgot that thread that fast? So on one page she made four posts that didn't have a point.
Heck what is the point in this post? What is the point of this thread? What is the point of every thread on PC? Most people post in a thread for there post counts. Why did every one say bye to SA in his thread in the Mod Lounge? He wont see the posts in it. So why post? To say "Bye SA" don't matter he wont see the posts.
See what I mean, every one says "I don't care for my post count, it's just a number" then stop posting, since if it's just a number stop posting so it will stop runing that number up. If not then don't say "I don't care for it" since that is a lie in it self.
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[Flaming Torchic]

Here is something to think about. Why do we even post? Why is most of the threads in MVP just a thread to get another post? Why post in the DCC? One time Alyssa said in there that she was working on her new vB forums. Now was there a point to that post? No, any one whould have known "She got vB and she is not on PC so she is working on her forums", so why did she post it? she wanted another number added to her post count. Her first post in Frosty's thread just said she was hurt and not to flame. Duh, every one knows not to flame and after all that she should be hurt. Half of her second post was just a relap what she is talking in this thread and the other half she copied from my post. Talking about how it's not all fun to be a Mod and thank you frosty. So her first and second post in there could have been good with out her posted. Her third post was complaining[font=&quot] about the forum she is a Mod in (again). Her fourth post was saying about that "How tall are you thread", you don't think I forgot that thread that fast? So on one page she made four posts that didn't have a point.
Heck what is the point in this post? What is the point of this thread? What is the point of every thread on PC? Most people post in a thread for there post counts. Why did every one say bye to SA in his thread in the Mod Lounge? He wont see the posts in it. So why post? To say "Bye SA" don't matter he wont see the posts.
See what I mean, every one says "I don't care for my post count, it's just a number" then stop posting, since if it's just a number stop posting so it will stop runing that number up. If not then don't say "I don't care for it" since that is a lie in it self.
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Ehh...Andy, that logic is messed, you you're asking us to stop posting? That makes no sense, because if we don't post then PC will become inactive. Also, although there may be things that Alyssa does that you do not agree with, I don't think that you should really post that, because you may start a flame war against her.

I usually only say what I am doing when someone before says "So, what's everyone up to?"

And not everyone does it for their post count, but there are some who I have my suspicions that do it, but I'm not going to point fingers.

 

[Kairi]

It?s about interaction with peers. We all came here, at least most of us, to have discussions about Pok?mon and the like. We have become friends, and are interested in each other?s opinions and events. If someone scored an A on their test, we?d congratulate them and so on. In a debate, we interact with our fellow members and gain a good sense of interactivity and community. The point is to enjoy our meeting together to share knowledge, games, and experiences.
If I had users, I'd be more than happy to wipe my post count to prove it. =\

 

[DragonTrainer]

Lol, I would wipe my postcount away as well. True Andy, I care not for postcount, but that doesn't mean I won't quit posting. I post because I like to talk and interact with my friends, not because I like to have a big number by my name

~DragonTrainer:dragonite

 

[Frostweaver]

Reason why we post is as mentioned, a form of socialization with others.

You know Arcanine... you don't have to talk ever. THere are mutes who are living perfectly well... but i wonder why they want to speak again? Without words they have difficulty communicating with others. Communications make every day life different from every other day. Posting is a form of communication. It's about the ideas and things within a post that makes posting fun, not the +1 you get form it. Interaction with people means communication. Through communication ideas exchange from one another, opening up your thoughts and mind.

Posting is exactly the same as why we talk, why we play (even if it's "one player" video games... it's interaction between you and the game producers who put their thoughts into the game), or why we do almost everything. Posting should be something everyone does, but just that the point of posting is lost now as people shifts their attention from the interaction to the +1. But in the end (even if you're just seeking for +1), everyone post because of interaction with people one way or another.

SPAMmers spam because they want to be noticed in one way or another, therefore it's still interacting with somebody, sending his/her ideas to another person. I can promise you that no SPAMmers will invade a board that has no one in it. They also seek interaction and response from someone else (which is ultimate, interaction of some form.)

People who want those +1s post because they want a higher number. The higher number can and does give the person a sense of superiority, or higher status. People with higher post counts will get admired by others. This is also an interaction between people.

And then finally... some people post because they want to speak their mind and thoughts regarding a topic, chatting with people to have a fun time and to share their opinions. This is obviously, another form of interaction.

So in the end... posting's ultimate goal is communication and interaction between people. Just that everyone demands different forms of interaction and communication... some want attention, some want power, and some just wants a good friend to talk to. Everyone post, because everyone interacts with one another.

(sorry for the poor organization in terms of structure within this post... not really well thought out =/ )

 

[Dizzy]

Reason why we post is as mentioned, a form of socialization with others.

You know Arcanine... you don't have to talk ever. THere are mutes who are living perfectly well... but i wonder why they want to speak again? Without words they have difficulty communicating with others. Communications make every day life different from every other day. Posting is a form of communication. It's about the ideas and things within a post that makes posting fun, not the +1 you get form it. Interaction with people means communication. Through communication ideas exchange from one another, opening up your thoughts and mind.

Posting is exactly the same as why we talk, why we play (even if it's "one player" video games... it's interaction between you and the game producers who put their thoughts into the game), or why we do almost everything. Posting should be something everyone does, but just that the point of posting is lost now as people shifts their attention from the interaction to the +1. But in the end (even if you're just seeking for +1), everyone post because of interaction with people one way or another.

SPAMmers spam because they want to be noticed in one way or another, therefore it's still interacting with somebody, sending his/her ideas to another person. I can promise you that no SPAMmers will invade a board that has no one in it. They also seek interaction and response from someone else (which is ultimate, interaction of some form.)

People who want those +1s post because they want a higher number. The higher number can and does give the person a sense of superiority, or higher status. People with higher post counts will get admired by others. This is also an interaction between people.

And then finally... some people post because they want to speak their mind and thoughts regarding a topic, chatting with people to have a fun time and to share their opinions. This is obviously, another form of interaction.

So in the end... posting's ultimate goal is communication and interaction between people. Just that everyone demands different forms of interaction and communication... some want attention, some want power, and some just wants a good friend to talk to. Everyone post, because everyone interacts with one another.

(sorry for the poor organization in terms of structure within this post... not really well thought out =/ )

I wonder Why we dont have .25 parts of a post... you know what I'm sayin... lol Instead of Doing 1000 posts it would be 250.. or something like that. Non.. Sorry I'm not feeling good so dont hold me account for Nonsense.

 

[Arcanine]

Then do it, since I am the only member around here that is still fighting for keeping them. Hide the posts, lets see how many members will keep posting. Lets see how many posts PC will get. Lets see the members that will leave. Do it for a month and watch PC's total post count just level out. I don't care any more, I want to see what every one is talking about. I want to see all the spam that PC wont have any more. Do it, hide the post counts. And I also would like to see Kwesi post in this thread, see what he thinks on the matter. It's his forums.
Do it hide the posts, lets watch PC turn into another SPPF. Hey why not start making a ton of rules too?

Why I want to keep the posts: I don't want to watch PC drop dead over the members that wont post when we hide the posts (always keep that in mind we are not killing the posts we are hiding them). I don't want to see all the threads on PC just starting to have the posts on it get lower and lower each day. I want post counts back in Fun Time but I fear even if we get them back the threads in there wont ever get back like they use to. I mean The One Above wont ever get like it use to be. And if we hide posts on PC then it will do the same. Fun Time is proof of what I say. Does any one post in The One Above like they use to? Does it get posts like it does on the old PC? No, it's dead like all the threads in there. And if you turn PC into that forum, where posts don't count. Then guess what all of PC will be dead as that forum.

 

[Dizzy]

EEEE, O Andy ? casta Gierra por postas? e Nao? I'm not fighting to keep posts, but I dont really have much of a say, seeing that I'm overlooked and outspoken. Que Postas ? Importante?

 

[Frostweaver]

Firstly... should know me by now that i'm an idealist ;p *c* Go communism even though it will never freakin' work out because of the invisible greedy factor! (same thing for post count... we know that a board withers without them, and Pokeland is the living example)

Secondly... I still don't really know what's a good method that rids the "PC Politics" caused due to post count (such as people asking for "worshippers"), yet still keep people in PC. It's very obvious not everyone can think like me, and certainly they should think differently (as long as it's harmless to others). I'm still trying to think of a good way that takes a balance of both. But for now, just leave it i guess...

 

[22sa]

Meh! Talking about getting rid of pozt count?? B-but...I juzt hit 1000, I waz zo proud of myzelf-_-'''

eee...porn zpammerz? Now that iz juzt Zcrewd Up!

Congrats on your 1k. I think I actually remember a porn spammer getting banned here. x_x;

I remember when members tried for that title, I could see in people's sigs saying "On the top 20 posters list" you don't see that any more. I bet you look at the list of the highest posters (top 50 now) and you wont see any one have that they are on the top 50 posters. My, my now that I stop and think about it when did PC get to stiff. I know a lot of you members joined the new PC and never saw the old PC or never saw me before I was a Mod (I was always tring to catch up with 22sa and his post count). Now that I think about it where did the fun go. Sure you talk to your friends and that is fun. But on the old PC that was real fun, playing the games talking about anything to get another post. Some how that has left PC (and I know it will never come back).

Yes, I know it was fun and it'll never come back. I wonder what really did trigger us, me into posting so much? I guess I was very enthusiastic at the time... Like seeing a bright light in myself learning rapidly, and God's light. I really knew nothing. There was so much to do, so much exploring around to do. It was fun. I began to believe... something else, like another personal possibility (I've just been through a especially dark time of the zillions I've been through) had come, like I had waked... from a dream. I tried to put my talent (doing what one can) into as many things as possible here at PC. And eventually as I realized how much I'm posting each day, I improved how much I was posting each day. Well, I know now that nothing can be achieved without divine assistence. =P Anyways... some things change. Those fun days started dying as soon as important members started leaving. What can I say? Good things die.

PE2K's golden days have died out too. In the exact same way, by important members leaving. The atomsphere over there was never really as nice as PC's but its members had a closer connection with each other, were more open with friends and foes, and I think that is why they were so successful. But it was something that I could not quite understand back then so I decided I would be much better off at PC and I believe I was right.