I want Misty Back!

[Spinor]

Wow, I also like that! I will pray that Misty will come back, by the way I want Dawn and Misty!

Why the heck would you pray if it's the Japanese playing around with that in their hands? >_>

 

[SuperBob]

To me, I love Dawn more than Misty. ^_^

 

[ReyRey-Pyon]

If the writers want her to be happy at the gym then she's happy as a clam
If they want her to be miserable she's miserable, I really don't get the "misty isn't happy at the gym sheshould come back" posts, if the writers want it, she could be having the time of her life xDDD;;

I don't think writing letters and angry/well thought out emails is going to bring misty back. If that were the case, shed probably have returned almost immediately.
If they want to put her into the story she'll be in
It's their decision not ours

And from the looks of it
She isn't returning as a permanent character, (why Brock hasent left I don't know, maybe he's the out one who can cook or something) she'll cameo, so don't get your panties in a bunch

Jeez
And. If she doesn't, oh well. No use crying about it. Because if you wanna see her so bad you can always watch the original series,


Wanting and hoping and begging and pleading and whatver elseit is that you do isn't going to bring her back
If anything, it'll prevent you from enjoying yourself,

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I know I'm totally going to face pal. At that post later rofl >.>/

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

If the writers want her to be happy at the gym then she's happy as a clam
If they want her to be miserable she's miserable, I really don't get the "misty isn't happy at the gym sheshould come back" posts, if the writers want it, she could be having the time of her life xDDD;;

I don't think writing letters and angry/well thought out emails is going to bring misty back. If that were the case, shed probably have returned almost immediately.
If they want to put her into the story she'll be in
It's their decision not ours

And from the looks of it
She isn't returning as a permanent character, (why Brock hasent left I don't know, maybe he's the out one who can cook or something) she'll cameo, so don't get your panties in a bunch

Jeez
And. If she doesn't, oh well. No use crying about it. Because if you wanna see her so bad you can always watch the original series,


Wanting and hoping and begging and pleading and whatver elseit is that you do isn't going to bring her back
If anything, it'll prevent you from enjoying yourself,

...

I know I'm totally going to face pal. At that post later rofl >.>/

Dr. Love, please, just... stop.

Anyways, Don't think I'm just "praying to the stars" for Misty to return. Even I know full well that won't work. No, I'm actually trying to do something. If one wants her back, they'll WORK to make it happen, just like how my founding fathers actually TRIED to bring freedom to our country instead of just hoping that King George III would change his mind.

And another thing, not ONCE has she even SHOWN to be happy at the Gym. GCYL and Cerulean Blues, fairly obvious. Blue Badge of Courage, she once made a reference to Cinderella in terms of her job (and believe me, someone who enjoys their job would NOT try to compare their job to an abused girl who worked and was treated like a slave by her family). Date with Delcatty, she was shown complaining to her sisters about the hard work she had to endure at the gym, not to mention that rumored line in the Japanese version that she said that she was going to Hoenn as soon as she got the chance to retire and leave it to her sisters. Not to mention the fact that Misty had left the Gym three times (and one of those times, she even went as far as to delay her return as much as possible), so really, that only PROVES that she didn't enjoy working at the gym.

And another thing, need I remind you that it was because of US that Brock even returned in the first place?! If they can listen to us with Brock, they can certainly listen to us about Misty, especially since she was removed for similar reasons to how Brock was initially removed.

 

[Jorah]

Dr. Love, please, just... stop.

People can voice their opinion, just like you can o.O

And another thing, need I remind you that it was because of US that Brock even returned in the first place?! If they can listen to us with Brock, they can certainly listen to us about Misty, especially since she was removed for similar reasons to how Brock was initially removed.

But wasn't it because of the US that they removed Brock in the first place? They realised he was actually popular when they thought he would be hated, so they brought him back, but with Misty it was because *they* wanted to replace her with another girl, rather than feeling they had to?

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

But wasn't it because of the US that they removed Brock in the first place? They realised he was actually popular when they thought he would be hated, so they brought him back, but with Misty it was because *they* wanted to replace her with another girl, rather than feeling they had to?

Actually, when I said "US" I meant in capital letters for emphasis the word "us", meaning the collective third person plural noun meaning the Pokemon fanbase. I wasn't meaning the United States.

As for Misty's removal and May's conception, it doesn't matter if the US (here meaning United States) was responsible or not for her removal. All that matters is that they ultimately had similar agendas in mind (For Brock, it was racism, or rather, fear of racism, for Misty, it was for flat out sexism. I mean, even Masamitsu Hidaka confirmed that that was the reason in that interview, and besides which, it was fairly obvious that sexism was the primary reason they did it [if it was truly for staleness or unsalvagability, as everyone claimed, they would have also removed Ash, TR, and ESPECIALLY Brock as well, seeing how they themselves would be considered stale. Same for replacing her for advertizements sake, as they would have replaced Brock, TR, and Ash so they can completely advertize the newest games.].).

 

[Jorah]

Ah, OK. But the reason they replaced Brock was that they anticipated people would think he was a racial stereotype, which they, and a lot of the powerful places in Western society, I think, would view as one of the worst types, if not, the worst type, of discrimination (whether that be right or wrong), and, considering the popularity of Pokemon at the time, could have caused a huge backlash and a lot of hate. They made him join the group when they realised that he wasn't hated because of being a racial stereotype and presumably wanted to keep him because they preferred him to Tracy or didn't know who to replace him with.

Can you explain how this is similar to Misty? I don't really understand, sorry.

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Ah, OK. But the reason they replaced Brock was that they anticipated people would think he was a racial stereotype, which they, and a lot of the powerful places in Western society, I think, would view as one of the worst types, if not, the worst type, of discrimination (whether that be right or wrong), and, considering the popularity of Pokemon at the time, could have caused a huge backlash and a lot of hate. They made him join the group when they realised that he wasn't hated because of being a racial stereotype and presumably wanted to keep him because they preferred him to Tracy or didn't know who to replace him with.

Can you explain how this is similar to Misty? I don't really understand, sorry.

Ok, Misty was replaced due to sexism. They wanted a girl whom they can change into Swimsuit options and be considered eyecandy for some people. Basically, if you're a female character and you aren't garnering sexual eyecandy, that must automatically mean you're useless. Masamitsu Hidaka said they replaced Misty BECAUSE they wanted give males eyecandy, and they can have them wear swimsuits. It also explains why they initially gave May a huge chest and why Dawn currently has a short skirt. I've never really trusted Masamitsu Hidaka, but the fact that they never even bothered to replace Brock at least when they would have had a good reason to (as he fared the worst in Johto), they gave May and Dawn several shots in Bikinis/swimsuits (and in the case of May, got them in 3/4ths of her movies, and even went as far as to "pseudo-strip" [you know exactly what I meant by that].), not to mention their airheaded personalities that are shallow compared to their body (similar to Love Hina, in one sense) seems to hint at that being true. Heck, even BEFORE the interview, I had predicted that Misty was replaced for those reasons alone (or at least that they didn't replace her for stality issues).

If you really think about it, Racism and Sexism/Chauvinism aren't really that much different. All they are is a way to oppress a certain group while making the other group seems superior in comparison. And what Masamitsu Hidaka just said in that interview WAS Sexism/Chauvinism, as the primary reason they were even conceived in the first place was to be nothing more than sex objects.

Brock's reactions and looks were similar to how Japanese people were depicted during WWII and after, and May and Dawn's reactions and looks are similar to playboy models/valley girls/LH characters. I mean, even you must have noticed this.

In FACT, I'll even POST the interview so YOU can see it.

So then I said, "Why can't you just ditch Brock, have Ash, have Misty, and then bring in a new boy? That would be switching up things instead of having a new girl." His following answers made me laugh my head off I had to pick it up off the floor and reattach it. He stated that they like to switch up the girls because it gives the boys some new eye candy every once in a while. He also said girls are more customizable and you can change their outfits, like when they are in their bathing suits (yes, he specifically said that).

NOW do you see exactly what I meant by my statements, or do you want me to explain again and again?! Sorry, but I get annoyed when people, especially people who should be offended by what Masamitsu Hidaka said don't seem to get how it's similar to Brock's removal.

 

[Graceful]

Well,May has had her time in the guest spotlight why not Misty?
*Crosses Arms like a Selfish 3 year old*

 

[Kitty!]

Kasumi left, because the Johto season was totally bashed on, and she wasn't doing anything for the show. WHY TAKESHI IS STILL HERE? I DON'T KNOW., he cooks.

Kasumi wants to be the best water trainer ...best thing to do is be the gym leader at the water gym. AND FOR REAL. it's a freaking cartoon. Who gives a crap if she isn't enjoying herself. The writers aren't showing it. It's not important. Kasumi has no reason to come back. She's a drawing ..she's not SUFFERING from not being able to travel with Satoshi. :x

And I do know that the creators make the next girl more eyecandyish everytime. Kasumi wasn't replaced because she wasn't 'eyecandy' ..it was because she had no role on the show ..and her life is now at the gym.

Come on now. No wonder people get so mad at you guys.
I was OBSESSED WITH HARUKA. like ..you had no idea. You don't hear me complaining about her leaving. I know and accept that she's never going to be in the main group again. That's how it works. Soon, Hikari will leave as well. You gotta accept it. :P

 

[weedle_mchairybug]

Kasumi left, because the Johto season was totally bashed on, and she wasn't doing anything for the show. WHY TAKESHI IS STILL HERE? I DON'T KNOW., he cooks.

No, Johto being unpopular with the fans was never the reason Misty left. Heck, when Masamitsu Hidaka answered why Misty was replaced in the first place, not once did he even mention the unpopularity of Johto as a reason.

Kasumi wants to be the best water trainer ...best thing to do is be the gym leader at the water gym. AND FOR REAL. it's a freaking cartoon. Who gives a crap if she isn't enjoying herself. The writers aren't showing it. It's not important. Kasumi has no reason to come back. She's a drawing ..she's not SUFFERING from not being able to travel with Satoshi. :x

To be the best water trainer, she has to TRAVEL. She can't just stay cooped up at the Gym and get beaten by Rookie pokemon. She needs challenges. I mean, If you think staying at the Gym would make someone the best trainer, why not have Ash stop journeying across the entire world competing in leagues, settle down, and start up a gym? Better yet, why not have him accept the Battle Frontier Brain Position from Brandon rather than continue journeying to Sinnoh? That would certainly have him accomplish his goal of becoming a Pokemon Master.

And if they weren't showing her not enjoying it, please explain her reaction to having to become Gym Leader, her unhappiness in Cerulean Blues, that Cinderella Comment in Blue Badge of Courage, her complaining to her sisters as well as this rumored line about going to Hoenn as soon as her sisters took back her gym in Date with Delcatty (Something she very clearly carried out), and her deliberately and knowingly delaying her return to the Gym? Last Time I checked, that IS showing displeasure.

And I do know that the creators make the next girl more eyecandyish everytime. Kasumi wasn't replaced because she wasn't 'eyecandy' ..it was because she had no role on the show ..and her life is now at the gym.

Really? One of the first reasons he listed as to why they replaced Misty was because of "Eyecandy", and stuff relating to Swimsuits. That seems to mean that that is at least a primary reason.

Come on now. No wonder people get so mad at you guys.
I was OBSESSED WITH HARUKA. like ..you had no idea. You don't hear me complaining about her leaving. I know and accept that she's never going to be in the main group again. That's how it works. Soon, Hikari will leave as well. You gotta accept it. :P

So, you would rather just foresake several countless girls both in the present and those who have yet to be born just for entertainment, is that what you want? I had to live with the fear that many of my female friends would end up trying to emulate celebrities's antics or trying to emulate them physically developing Anorexia and Bulimia, and dying as a result, not to mention what is currently going on with girls I could not possibly know all over. My various Health classes HAD stated that a primary reason as to why Bulimia/Anorexia is as big of a problem as it is is because of Modeling Magazines and Porn. The Day I saw the episode "Princess vs. Princess" and saw how Misty never acted like how those Fiorello Fangirls acted (my family hated them because they were a bad depiction of females, similar in a way to Love Hina.), I saw her as a beacon of hope to try and stop the madness that this world has come to.

 

[Jorah]

Ok, Misty was replaced due to sexism. They wanted a girl whom they can change into Swimsuit options and be considered eyecandy for some people. Basically, if you're a female character and you aren't garnering sexual eyecandy, that must automatically mean you're useless. Masamitsu Hidaka said they replaced Misty BECAUSE they wanted give males eyecandy, and they can have them wear swimsuits. It also explains why they initially gave May a huge chest and why Dawn currently has a short skirt. I've never really trusted Masamitsu Hidaka, but the fact that they never even bothered to replace Brock at least when they would have had a good reason to (as he fared the worst in Johto), they gave May and Dawn several shots in Bikinis/swimsuits (and in the case of May, got them in 3/4ths of her movies, and even went as far as to "pseudo-strip" [you know exactly what I meant by that].), not to mention their airheaded personalities that are shallow compared to their body (similar to Love Hina, in one sense) seems to hint at that being true. Heck, even BEFORE the interview, I had predicted that Misty was replaced for those reasons alone (or at least that they didn't replace her for stality issues).

Yeah, I know about that. You've explained that you think May and Dawn are sexist, but I was wondering why Brock coming back because people didn't think he was racist means that Misty would come back

If you really think about it, Racism and Sexism/Chauvinism aren't really that much different. All they are is a way to oppress a certain group while making the other group seems superior in comparison. And what Masamitsu Hidaka just said in that interview WAS Sexism/Chauvinism, as the primary reason they were even conceived in the first place was to be nothing more than sex objects.

I know that they're both the same. But whether other people or cultures have the opinion that one is more offensive isn't up to me.

Brock's reactions and looks were similar to how Japanese people were depicted during WWII and after, and May and Dawn's reactions and looks are similar to playboy models/valley girls/LH characters. I mean, even you must have noticed this.

"Even me"? Well, you've established why you think Brock, May and Dawn could be viewed as offensive, but not what this has to do with Brock coming back means Misty will. Misty didn't leave because writers or the public thought she was sexist.

NOW do you see exactly what I meant by my statements, or do you want me to explain again and again?! Sorry, but I get annoyed when people, especially people who should be offended by what Masamitsu Hidaka said don't seem to get how it's similar to Brock's removal.

I "should" be offended? I was just honestly asking you a question and I didn't mean anything by it, but you keep talking down to me. There isn't anything I "should" be offended by, whether I find something offensive is up to me and only me.

So they thought Brock would be offensive, but didn't think Misty, May or Dawn would be. I still don't see the connection, sorry.

 

[I Laugh at your Misfortune!]

NOW do you see exactly what I meant by my statements, or do you want me to explain again and again?! Sorry, but I get annoyed when people, especially people who should be offended by what Masamitsu Hidaka said don't seem to get how it's similar to Brock's removal.

Quoted from Bulbapedia:

He also made another comment in another interview that caused a degree of controversy among Pokémon fans. In the second interview he stated that part of the reason for the changing of Ash's female companion from Misty to May, and then to Dawn is that "boys need a new piece of eye candy to look at every once in a while". Many viewed this as a sexist comment. However, in his defense, it should be noted that Hidaka's comments went through the translator, and then the fan who posted the interview, so some of the original meaning may have been lost. Japanese culture is very different than American culture, so the comment may have been received in a way Hidaka didn't mean for it to be.

Plus, on a slightly related note, Misty was hawt anyway.

 

[레트로]

I miss her sexy suspenders... ;O;

 

[Anima]

meh i like dawn better
they might bring her back soon or maybe A LONG time from now
anyways i seriously didnt like may or misty much
she was? oh i didn't see her then

 

[ReyRey-Pyon]

Kasumi left, because the Johto season was totally bashed on, and she wasn't doing anything for the show. WHY TAKESHI IS STILL HERE? I DON'T KNOW., he cooks.

Kasumi wants to be the best water trainer ...best thing to do is be the gym leader at the water gym. AND FOR REAL. it's a freaking cartoon. Who gives a crap if she isn't enjoying herself. The writers aren't showing it. It's not important. Kasumi has no reason to come back. She's a drawing ..she's not SUFFERING from not being able to travel with Satoshi. :x

And I do know that the creators make the next girl more eyecandyish everytime. Kasumi wasn't replaced because she wasn't 'eyecandy' ..it was because she had no role on the show ..and her life is now at the gym.

Come on now. No wonder people get so mad at you guys.
I was OBSESSED WITH HARUKA. like ..you had no idea. You don't hear me complaining about her leaving. I know and accept that she's never going to be in the main group again. That's how it works. Soon, Hikari will leave as well. You gotta accept it. :P

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i love you Dx

jesus christ half of you dont seem to understand shes a character in a cartoon
not a real person/so much face


anyways
reason misty's was put on a bus?:

they wanted to o3o

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red heads are pretty hawt
tho i'd still enjoy a protagonist with decent pants

...it must be cold and dangerous ;A;

 

[Sweet Smoochum]

Anti-Misty people, listen up. Some of your posts are very disrespectful. Some of us just would like to see Misty return. (Finally when the colors/graphics of the show got good, they replaced her.) Some of you may dislike her, but you're being mean about it. This thread is asking whether or not we want Misty back or if she'll return. Just because you say she "did nothing" that isn't a good enough reason. All you can come up with is contests. Some of us just want to know if she'll make some cameos because she appeared in the Japanese intro. Wasn't there something called the Whirl cup? Brock doesn't exactly do much, but he stays on the show. He already taught Dawn and Ash how to cook in case he's not around. I'm sure Ash has learned a lot from him as well as Dawn by now. In Hoenn, there were 4 characters (technically 7 including Jessie, James and Meowth.) Why couldn't there be four again? Hmm? I don't mind whether or not she returns fully, but it would be nice for her to appear in a cameo. (Like when they go back to Johto? She was in GSC.)

Please don't yell at me for being a Misty fan. You don't have to be rude to Misty fans, ya know. I just liked having a main character on the show that looked like me...

The closest thing to Misty this season was Maylene and that girl w/ green hair in that tournament thingy in "One team, two team, red team, blue team." Whatever it's called.) (Rachel Lillis did the voice of Maylene. She also was the original VA for Misty.) The girl w/ the green hair sort of acted like Misty did.

 

[Ash~The Purifying Prince~]

T.T Aw man, I was so sad when they took Misty away in the first place; both May and Dawn are alright, but they just don't have that touch that Misty did, I don't know what it is really. Perhaps its because I've watched the show right from the beginning and I'm just used to Misty always being by Ash's side, besides Ash Misty is my favorite character. I know she has been in the newest opening; whether that means she will make an appearance I am unsure of; but I sure hope she does, I really do doubt she will be a main again but if she just comes back for a few episodes then I'll be happy!

As for her being just a cartoon character; its true she is, but a lot of people are big fans of Misty and would be happy if she just came back even if it was just for a while. Sure its just an Anime and she feels whatever the writer's make her feel,but you just feel...well I don't know how to explain it, but you just feel its the not the same I suppose. It's what happens when a character is your favorite and then they are suddenly gone, none of us I'm sure have forgotten its just an Anime but all the same it would be great if Misty came back; even if it was just for a while. ^^

 

[Kitty!]

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i love you Dx

OH BABY! ;3

Anti-Misty people, listen up. Some of your posts are very disrespectful. Some of us just would like to see Misty return. (Finally when the colors/graphics of the show got good, they replaced her.) Some of you may dislike her, but you're being mean about it. This thread is asking whether or not we want Misty back or if she'll return. Just because you say she "did nothing" that isn't a good enough reason. All you can come up with is contests. Some of us just want to know if she'll make some cameos because she appeared in the Japanese intro. Wasn't there something called the Whirl cup? Brock doesn't exactly do much, but he stays on the show. He already taught Dawn and Ash how to cook in case he's not around. I'm sure Ash has learned a lot from him as well as Dawn by now. In Hoenn, there were 4 characters (technically 7 including Jessie, James and Meowth.) Why couldn't there be four again? Hmm? I don't mind whether or not she returns fully, but it would be nice for her to appear in a cameo. (Like when they go back to Johto? She was in GSC.)

Please don't yell at me for being a Misty fan. You don't have to be rude to Misty fans, ya know. I just liked having a main character on the show that looked like me...

The closest thing to Misty this season was Maylene and that girl w/ green hair in that tournament thingy in "One team, two team, red team, blue team." Whatever it's called.) (Rachel Lillis did the voice of Maylene. She also was the original VA for Misty.) The girl w/ the green hair sort of acted like Misty did.

I'm not hatin' on Kasumi fans. Don't get me wrong. I'm just being the blunt and honest person I am. And you guys just need to accept that Kasumi is long gone from the main cast.

:x And you have to understand that she has no reason to come back. The writers introduced the girls from the games, and made them do contests ..to have a co-star, other than Satoshi doing something. Kasumi doesn't do contests or anything. She's just the water trainer.

I like Kasumi. Trust me on this. I know how many people are wanting Kasumi back. And she will come back, for a small appearance. But to actually let yourself believe that she's going to return for good ..that's just hurting you more when it doesn't happen. :x

 

[Spinor]

In Hoenn, there were 4 characters (technically 7 including Jessie, James and Meowth.) Why couldn't there be four again?

There weren't 4. Max was a half pint good for nothing who annoyed the arse off the holy black belts.

Also we are not being mean. If you ever find yourself getting shot in the head, having your house sabotaged or being called ugly by another anti-Misty fan then you can call us mean. We are only stating the facts that support she won't come back.