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https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/01/italyItaly's highest appeal court has ruled that it is acceptable to discriminate against Roma on the grounds that they are thieves.
https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/01/italyItaly's highest appeal court has ruled that it is acceptable to discriminate against Roma on the grounds that they are thieves.
Shouldn't it be "Romans"? ._.
Anyways, I've been to Rome and I can probably agree with this on them that they should get rid of the Gypsies..
Gypsies there are like Hobos here, basically.. Con arists, most of them.
And most of them beg for you to give them money to support their babies.. meanwhile the babies that they're holding are from friends or family of theirs.
I know because I have family in Italy and they can see through all the tricks that the Gypsies try to pull. And told us about it when we went ._.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roma_people
Hmm, good point. On this note, we should probably get rid of the black people in the United States. They're violent and fleet-footed, most of them. The country would be more peaceful without them. Also, we should deport all hispanics for stealing our jobs.
Well obviously this is just an example of prejudice. Roma's aren't the problem, thieves are the problem. It's prejudice, it sucks, and there isn't much to be said besides that.
There's more than one term for Gypsies. The one I'm using is for the homeless people there in Rome.
That isn't what this thread is about, though. The article stated that Italy is condoning prejudice against an entire race of people, not just thieves.
You've never been there, so you don't know what it's like when you're even going through Milano and clutching your purse for dear life as you watch people smoke heavy cigars with babies on their laps.
You've never had your uncle tell you that someone held him with a gun to his head asking for money. And he's 92 years old!
And yes, I have met a very nice Roma family that owned a restaurant in Venice, but with everything else going on in Milan and Rome, I really don't blame the government for wanting to fingerprint people who are immigrants.
You see, unlike America or England or etc, Italy has smaller towns where basically everyone in the neighbourhood is a family friend to each other. People are nosy and like to get into each other's business. It's a culture thing. So obviously it's coming from somewhere else if they can't pinpoint who it is who stole.
"Discriminatory" or not, if fingerprinting's going to help stop the problem for theft, then I'm all for it.
And honestly, I think Italy should have a way to identify everyone in the country. I don't see a problem with it.
Obvously he did. I don't think he made it to make the section look pretty.But I don't get why you posted this, Allstories.. for discussion?
He did... What did you expect, exactly? To debate, to argue, to disagree and to discuss opposing ideas... all are essentially the same thing.Because I gave you my input but you argued with me.
Did you just want everyone to agree with you and support it? o.óDid you just want everyone to agree with you and bash the Italian government?
Obvously he did. I don't think he made it to make the section look pretty.
He did... What did you expect, exactly? To debate, to argue, to disagree and to discuss opposing ideas... all are essentially the same thing.
Did you just want everyone to agree with you and support it? o.ó
But it wouldn't be a debate if I agreed with you. :psy copy:
It's kind of my job here to decide whether there is respect in a discussion or not, and it's boring, but I'm pulling it off... and I do not think Allstories has disrespected you, he just has provided sharp and crude arguments against yours. He has not even tried to persuade you of anything, I don't know where that came from. I have just reviewed the topic word for word and have not found the least amount of disrespect on either part.There's a fine line between having a good discussion, and having one where you're totally disrespecting the other person. :/ I feel disrespected.
Look Kura, I'll finally bring it up. I really think you're a good willed, intelligent and nice member, I do-- but I'm growing tired of you feeling attacked wherever you go. You've got to learn to debate and accept that wrong or not there will be always people who disagree with your opinion. You and Allstories were having a healthy debate up there, until you started assuming the wrong things.
It's kind of my job here to decide whether there is respect in a discussion or not, and it's boring, but I'm pulling it off... and I do not think Allstories has disrespected you, he just has provided sharp and crude arguments against yours. He has not even tried to persuade you of anything, I don't know where that came from. I have just reviewed the topic word for word and have not found the least amount of disrespect on either part.
In short, Kura, please stop assuming everyone is attacking you. You're a good member with loads of potential, don't waste that.