Lets see......i freaken hate substitute,confuse ray,will o wisp,minimize,double team,roar and baton pass.Those moves get on my nurves alot,and that stupid substitute strategy is getting old,i already know how to defeat pokemon with that strategy,first move substitute,i strike hard,it fades,use again,same thing happens till the dumb dumb faints or switch.I really hate when that happens.I hope no one in this forum challenge me with that strategy,cause if they do....(shakes fist)