Moveset Help & Other Questions

[Nah]

So i have read that if i EV train a level 100 pokemon that has 0 EVs it will still get stat boosts.Is it true for this gen?

Yes.

I like all my Pokemon to be bred on my own game and I don't want to go through IV breeding on Black2. Is it impossible to get Superpower on it then? Does anyone know if Z will have tutoring?

And if so what are viable alternatives?

If you're not willing to breed one on your Black 2 or get one from someone else, then you can't get superpower on Flareon. I would like to think that Z will have move tutors, but there's no way to know for certain; there hasn't even been an official annoucement of the game. There isn't really any viable alternatives to Superpower that I can think of; Flareon's movepool is as shallow as a kiddie pool.

 

[Managrimm]

Okay thanks.

Also: Since Gyarados can have Moxie and Double-Edge this time around is it worth putting on him? The guides from BW look iffy on it because it used to prevent him from having Moxie.

Not Mega Gyarados, mind you - I want to use him as an offensive pivot with a Jolteon so I want his Ground immunity.

 

[Nah]

Okay thanks.

Also: Since Gyarados can have Moxie and Double-Edge this time around is it worth putting on him? The guides from BW look iffy on it because it used to prevent him from having Moxie.

Not Mega Gyarados, mind you - I want to use him as an offensive pivot with a Jolteon so I want his Ground immunity.

Moxie is worth it. Double Edge is not.

 

[BigSteve]

Flying Pikachu

Hey guys,

recently got a lv.50 Pikachu in a Cherish Ball from a passerby trade.
I hadn't actually grabbed Pikachu and I traded a Rayquaza I got from GTS for this Pikachu.

I've googled / serebii / bulbapedia'd the OT and ID and it's come back as an event special 'Flying Pikachu'

After briefly being disappointed about the lack of a different model / sprite (the Pokemon Snap one would've been AWESOME) I wondered if with the right EV's this little fella could grab a LightBall and join my BattleBox!

I'm sure Fly on a Pikachu would be unexpected!

Obviously it'd presumably retain Fly when evolving to Raichu?


Also, does anyone know if breeding will produce Pikachu's able to learn Fly?

 

[PlatinumDude]

Hey guys,

recently got a lv.50 Pikachu in a Cherish Ball from a passerby trade.
I hadn't actually grabbed Pikachu and I traded a Rayquaza I got from GTS for this Pikachu.

I've googled / serebii / bulbapedia'd the OT and ID and it's come back as an event special 'Flying Pikachu'

After briefly being disappointed about the lack of a different model / sprite (the Pokemon Snap one would've been AWESOME) I wondered if with the right EV's this little fella could grab a LightBall and join my BattleBox!

I'm sure Fly on a Pikachu would be unexpected!

Obviously it'd presumably retain Fly when evolving to Raichu?


Also, does anyone know if breeding will produce Pikachu's able to learn Fly?

Fly is a special move for Pikachu; it's also not one of its Egg moves, so it can't be passed down to other Pikachu. Also, Pokemon retain their moves when they evolve, and this applies to Flying Pikachu. And I wouldn't recommend using Fly; it's too easily played around.

 

[Nah]

What would be a good third member for this Battle Maison (Super Singles) team?:

-Klefki w/Light Clay
Nature: Impish
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP, 126 Defense, 126 Sp.Defense
Moves: Foul Play, Thunder Wave, Reflect, Light Screen

-Gyarados w/Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 156 HP, 72 Attack, 96 Defense, 184 Sp.Defense
Moves: Waterfall, Bounce, Taunt, Dragon Dance

And should I even bother trying to do it with these 2 as well?

 

[destinedjagold]

Ahoy pipol~
I wanna ask: how does the held item [Iron Ball] work?
I tried making my PKMN that knows Earthquake hold this item, but it doesn't work against flying-type mons. =/
The description of Iron Ball is...
"An item to be held by a Pokémon.
It lowers Speed and allowes Ground-type
moves to hit Flying-type and levitating holders."

 

[Super Bling]

Iron Ball only works if the opposing mon is holding it.

So use Trick or Switcheroo to get the other Pokemon holding it.

 

[Flushed]

What would be a good third member for this Battle Maison (Super Singles) team?:

-Klefki w/Light Clay
Nature: Impish
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP, 126 Defense, 126 Sp.Defense
Moves: Foul Play, Thunder Wave, Reflect, Light Screen

-Gyarados w/Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 156 HP, 72 Attack, 96 Defense, 184 Sp.Defense
Moves: Waterfall, Bounce, Taunt, Dragon Dance

And should I even bother trying to do it with these 2 as well?

For me at least, I wouldn't have the patience to set up screens or anything. Idk the only thing I can think of at the moment is Nidoking. A decent special attacker to cover the Electric and Rock weakness Gyarados has. I always recommend Mega-Kang for Battle Maison, but idk that's just me.

Ahoy pipol~
I wanna ask: how does the held item [Iron Ball] work?
I tried making my PKMN that knows Earthquake hold this item, but it doesn't work against flying-type mons. =/
The description of Iron Ball is...
"An item to be held by a Pokémon.
It lowers Speed and allowes Ground-type
moves to hit Flying-type and levitating holders."

Iron Ball makes the holder susceptible to Ground moves, it doesn't allow the holder to hit others with Ground moves.

Edit: Beat to it.

 

[Nah]

For me at least, I wouldn't have the patience to set up screens or anything. Idk the only thing I can think of at the moment is Nidoking. A decent special attacker to cover the Electric and Rock weakness Gyarados has. I always recommend Mega-Kang for Battle Maison, but idk that's just me.

Maybe I'll try something else then. I'm not terribly patient either. And getting a Sheer Force Nidoking requires work...not to mention I've never been into Nidoking that much.

I've tried Mega Kangaskhan before, but obviously I have yet to win. Who do you recommend that I pair Mega Kangaskhan with? Maybe I just haven't been teaming it up with the right pokes or something...

 

[Flushed]

Maybe I'll try something else then. I'm not terribly patient either. And getting a Sheer Force Nidoking requires work...not to mention I've never been into Nidoking that much.

I've tried Mega Kangaskhan before, but obviously I have yet to win. Who do you recommend that I pair Mega Kangaskhan with? Maybe I just haven't been teaming it up with the right pokes or something...

I basically run hyper offense. Usually take Azumarill and Aegislash. The only consistent "problem" I run into is Spiritomb, so fairy can take care of that. And for any fighting types that outspeed, or just anything with Focus Blast, Aegislash is a good absorber. Lead with Kangaskhan, judge whether I can get a Power-up Punch in, even if it's not very effective, and then I proceed to sweep most teams.

 

[fireflystorm]

[Team Help] Movesets for Mew?

Hey everyone! I hope I'm doing this right.

I have a LV5 event Mew and I've got no idea what moves to give it. It's lonely nature and has synchronize as its ability. I'm not a competitive battler by any means (though I enjoy a battle time and again), I'm just looking for a well-rounded moveset since Mew will probably be a fixture on my team for a while and can literally learn any move.

 

[victini91]

I'm currently with this, now.
Greninja w Mystic Water
Water/Dark
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Moves: Surf, Ice Beam, Dark Pulse, Extrasensory

Sylveon w Pixie Plate
Fairy
Ability: Cute Charm
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spd
Moves: Draining Kiss, Moon Blast, Psyshock, Dig

Porygon-Z w Life Orb
Normal
Ability: Adaptability
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4HP
Moves: Nasty Plot, Hyper Beam, Tri Attack, Hidden Power

Heliolisk w Choice Specs
Electric/Normal
Ability: Solar Power
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Moves: Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Volt Switch, Thunderbolt

Anybody can help me filling the other two slots cause I can't decide much about it. Please rate my team so I could improve it a bit. ;)

 

[Dark Azelf]

-Gyarados w/Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 156 HP, 72 Attack, 96 Defense, 184 Speed
Moves: Waterfall, Bounce, Taunt, Dragon Dance

And should I even bother trying to do it with these 2 as well?

Fixed. Gyarados needs its speed.

 

[PlatinumDude]

I'm currently with this, now.
Greninja w Mystic Water
Water/Dark
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Moves: Surf, Ice Beam, Dark Pulse, Extrasensory

Sylveon w Pixie Plate
Fairy
Ability: Cute Charm
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spd
Moves: Draining Kiss, Moon Blast, Psyshock, Dig

Porygon-Z w Life Orb
Normal
Ability: Adaptability
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4HP
Moves: Nasty Plot, Hyper Beam, Tri Attack, Hidden Power

Heliolisk w Choice Specs
Electric/Normal
Ability: Solar Power
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
Moves: Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Volt Switch, Thunderbolt

Anybody can help me filling the other two slots cause I can't decide much about it. Please rate my team so I could improve it a bit. ;)

You need to specify your Pokemon's Hidden Power types.

Greninja should always use its Protean ability:
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Ice Beam/Dark Pulse
-Extrasensory/Dark Pulse
-U-turn/Hidden Power (Fire/Grass)/Grass Knot
Nature: Naive/Timid
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Protean

or
-Spikes
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Ice Beam
-U-turn/Extrasensory
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

Draining Kiss is too weak; not even its healing effect can save it from being unusable. Dig also works off of Sylveon's terrible Attack. While Pixilate + Hyper Voice is preferred for Sylveon, Moonblast + Cute Charm is an acceptable alternative if you can't transfer from Poke Bank:
-Wish
-Protect
-Hyper Voice
-Heal Bell/Calm Mind
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/244 Def/12 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate

or
-Hyper Voice
-Shadow Ball
-Psyshock
-Hidden Power (Fire)/Baton Pass
Nature: Modest
EVs: 244 HP/252 SAtk/12 Spe
Item: Choice Specs
Ability: Pixilate

Hyper Beam is a big no-no move on Porygon-Z. It leaves it a sitting duck the turn after it's used:
-Nasty Plot
-Tri Attack
-Dark Pulse
-Hidden Power (Fighting)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Adaptability

Other Adaptability users are Crawdaunt and Mega Lucario (note that the latter is an Uber in simulators):

Crawdaunt:
-Crab Hammer
-Knock Off
-Aqua Jet
-Crunch/Swords Dance
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band/Life Orb/Mystic Water
Ability: Adaptability

Mega Lucario:
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Extreme Speed
-Crunch/Ice Punch/Bullet Punch/Shadow Claw
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Lucarionite

or
-Nasty Plot
-Aura Sphere
-Flash Cannon
-Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball/Vacuum Wave
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Lucarionite
Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

I think that Heliolisk is somewhat subpar. It doesn't have a way to hit Dragons effectively outside of Hidden Power. Wash Rotom is better, IMO, as it can counter Talonflame:

or
-Volt Switch
-Hydro Pump
-Hidden Power (Ice)/Thunderbolt
-Will-o-Wisp
Nature: Modest
EVs: 228 HP/60 SAtk/220 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Volt Switch
-Hydro Pump
-Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Ice)
-Trick
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

A hazard setter would be ideal for this team, like Ferrothorn or Skarmory:

Ferrothorn:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
-Power Whip/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs

Skarmory:
-Roost
-Whirlwind
-Stealth Rock/Spikes/Brave Bird
-Defog/Brave Bird
Nature: Bold/Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef or 252 HP/16 Def/240 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy

or
-Spikes
-Roost
-Whirlwind
-Taunt/Brave Bird
Nature: Bold/Impish
EVs: 252 HP/184 Def/72 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy

Can't think of anything for the 6th slot, atm.

 

[Sopheria]

This is probably a totally basic question, but I can't find the answer :(

When two Pokemon with abilities that invoke weather are sent out at the same time, what determines which weather condition prevails?

 

[PlatinumDude]

This is probably a totally basic question, but I can't find the answer :(

When two Pokemon with abilities that invoke weather are sent out at the same time, what determines which weather condition prevails?

The slower Pokemon gets its weather up.

Ex: both players send out Ninetales and Politoed at the same time. First, Ninetales' Drought activates, turning the weather to harsh sunlight. Then Politoed's Drizzle changes it to rain, as it has less Speed than Ninetales (unless Politoed is holding Choice Scarf and uses a Timid nature with 252 Speed EVs, which makes it faster than Ninetales).

 

[LightBlast]

What Poke is a good counter/check to GeoXerneas who is not an uber?

 

[Zeffy]

What Poke is a good counter/check to GeoXerneas who is not an uber?

Uhm, I am not so sure about that. Xerneas is Ubers as per Smogon's banlist so you need not to worry about it in standard OU play. However if you are playing somewhere else that does not adhere to Smogon's rules then ignore this post.

 

[PlatinumDude]

What Poke is a good counter/check to GeoXerneas who is not an uber?

Chansey and Blissey wall Geomancy Xerneas.