5th Gen Official Rumours Thread

[MistahDude]

Can't we just say that for every other information or rumour about B/W? This is a discussion about it, so obviously we're 'predicting' what we might see in the games that's unreleased and before it's released. I can rant more but i don't want to. :x

Anyways, i'm agreed with Forever. Now that I think about it, it seems that Wooguru looks to be unrelated to Mame as well.

Octillery looks unrelated to Remoraid.

 

[Kanto_Johto]

...lol, but that image belongs in the Dream World thread along the lines of people having predicted the Dream World back in 2003, or something.

On the topic of Mamepato's evolution - Wooguru looks closer than Swana does to it, but I don't think either is likely. I am aware that there have been large changes of Pokemon with their evolutions in the past, but I think this change is just too large to actually be likely.

I think you may have contradicted yourself there....

I can't say I understand your thought process. I bet if Magikarp and Gyarados had just been revealed, you (and probably a lot of other people) would be saying that there is no way they are part of the same evolutionary line.

So how exactly is it too large a change? If someone said to me: "For £500 - Remoraid evolves into Octillery, or Mamepato evolves into Wooguru. Which is true?" I know that I would bet on Mamepato -> Wooguru.

 

[Arolu]

To be honest, Ability-wise, it would make sense for Mamepato to have some evolutionary relation to Swana. But, I would think of it as being a bit stupid; Okay, ugly duck to swan, I can understand but, pigeon to swan? There isn't much of a link there....

 

[Arolu]

Sure, that evolution might not make total sense. But as was said before, we've seen nonsensical evolutions before, like Remoraid/Octillery.

Actually, the Remoraid Evolutionary line does make sense; both are based off war/natural weaponry (such as a certain fish that shoots water to hit insects and the ink of an octopus).
Anyway, think about it, the 4th Gen' didn't have any Pokemon that seemed nonsensical and, well, onwards and upwards, really. :I

 

[Ho-Oh]

I think you may have contradicted yourself there....

I can't say I understand your thought process. I bet if Magikarp and Gyarados had just been revealed, you (and probably a lot of other people) would be saying that there is no way they are part of the same evolutionary line.

So how exactly is it too large a change? If someone said to me: "For £500 - Remoraid evolves into Octillery, or Mamepato evolves into Wooguru. Which is true?" I know that I would bet on Mamepato -> Wooguru.

Actually, they both have "scales", and really... they do actually look similar to me.

I'd still bet on Octillery. Wooguru looks stand-alone to me, and that's just how I see it. Hey, if it turns out to be Mamepato's evolution, then at least one of us were right :)

 

[WindBlows]

The broccoli Pokémon was confirmed today on Pokémon Sunday.
And the name is Yanappu.

 

[Zeturic]

The broccoli Pokémon was confirmed today on Pokémon Sunday.​

I'm failing to see why, since it was confirmed, you brought it up in the Rumors thread...

 

[WindBlows]

I'm failing to see why, since it was confirmed, you brought it up in the Rumors thread...

Firstable it was a rumour, and now it is confirmed.
Secondly, people love rumours.

 

[Logiedan]

Same as Twilight Sky.
I'm not liking it or disliking it. It's too early to judge anyways, i still need to see if it has any evos.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I feel bad. I don't know why, but I feel bad.

All I can say is that this is one Pokemon I won't be having in my team. :(

I agree, I don't like it that much...I would have liked it if it was chubby :(

 

[King Gumball]

Yes I know, the text box is edited. But it is true, I already confirmed it, lol.​

Wow nice spotting!! That is really cool that it was being developed since Hoenn. Maybe that scientist could be a character in HG SS. Seems likely if he was the one with the idea of the Dream World. That is really interesting.

 

[Livewire]

Wow nice spotting!! That is really cool that it was being developed since Hoenn. Maybe that scientist could be a character in HG SS. Seems likely if he was the one with the idea of the Dream World. That is really interesting.

Little hints and tidbits like this make me think the "New" games and pokemon have been around for years already, Their designs and beta artwork safe in some studio at Gamefreak. Same concept with the star wars prequels, George Lucas had the whole story planned out from the beginning, but he waited on releasing them until the technology, and the time was right for such an endeavor.

The fact we saw Ho-Oh in the second-ever anime episode, 3 years or so before G/S/C backs that up i think

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Little hints and tidbits like this make me think the "New" games and pokemon have been around for years already, Their designs and beta artwork safe in some studio at Gamefreak. Same concept with the star wars prequels, George Lucas had the whole story planned out from the beginning, but he waited on releasing them until the technology, and the time was right for such an endeavor.

The fact we saw Ho-Oh in the second-ever anime episode, 3 years or so before G/S/C backs that up i think

There is even a rumor that the creator already had 1000 pokemon planned out since the start...though some got changes done to their original artwork...

 

[Bay]

Little hints and tidbits like this make me think the "New" games and pokemon have been around for years already, Their designs and beta artwork safe in some studio at Gamefreak. Same concept with the star wars prequels, George Lucas had the whole story planned out from the beginning, but he waited on releasing them until the technology, and the time was right for such an endeavor.

The fact we saw Ho-Oh in the second-ever anime episode, 3 years or so before G/S/C backs that up i think

Wasn't Ho-Oh featured in the very first episode of the anime and then again (in a flashback) in the second episode?

Anyways, interesting reference there. I think there's more fun stuff over at that Hoenn company, so those inventions could be used in later generations also. XD

 

[Waffle-San]

Octillery looks unrelated to Remoraid.

I think this argument has been played too much. I mean yes it's true that some Pokemon and their evolutions aren't the most similiar looking of things but ALOT are. I mean Remoraid->Octillery, Magikarp->Gyarados, Pineco->Forretress and Feebas->Milotic. But most of those do have some basis. Machinery, Ugly Duckling, Weak grows strong etc. Mamepato and Swana have an abundance of differences between them. Besides the fact that Mamepato has generic bird written all over it, Swana has webbed feet while Mamepato has normal Pigeon ones.

Most the weird evolutions come from the Water typing or more specifically, they're often fish. This could have something to do with evolution (not Pokemon evolution, could get put in jail for teaching it in the 50's evolution.) But to be sure I'll make sense of the odd evolutions.

1) Remoraid and Octillery are tough ones but they do have clues in their name that differ from almost every other Pokemon.

2) Magikarp and Gyarados. This one's really not that hard. I mean they share the exact same crown-shaped dorsal fins and whiskers. Not to mention the supposed origin:

Spoiler:

Magikarp is based on a legend about how carp that leapt over the Dragon Gate would become dragons. Several waterfalls and cataracts in China are believed to be the location of the Dragon Gate. This legend is an allegory of the drive and efforts needed to overcome obstacles. This may have inspired an element in Pokémon Snap, where after certain steps are taken, a Magikarp will splash its way into a waterfall where it evolves. ~Bulbapedia

3) Feebas and Milotic. This one isn't obvious physically but it's not to hard to figure out. Feebas is designed to be ugly and crappy so it can evolve into Milotic, the beautiful strong Pokemon that it is. Not only does it epitamize a very well known children's story, it copies the evolutionary chain of example number 2). It also follows the fish theme.

4) Pineco and Forretress. This is a harder one. (For me anyways) But based on appearance it's not inconceivable that they'd be of the same evolutionary chain. Plus they both could represent weapons (Hand grenade, turret.) Also, they both resemble tree nuts, and as they are based on bagworms, that makes sense.

Spoiler:

Pineco: Pineco is based on a bagworm living in a pine cone. Its metallic appearance and ability to explode also links to a hand grenade. In addition to its possible relation to weaponry, its ability to learn Spikes may be a reference to caltrops. ~Bulbapedia

Forretress: Forretress is based on a bagworm, possibly one inhabiting a discarded shell of a Horse chestnut or a Walnut. ~Bulbapedia

In summarizing, Mamepato and Swana could be of the same evolutionary family but at this point it's redundant to think so; besides their ability-which means little-there is nothing to suggest that Mamepato will evolve into Swana.

 

[shininglatios217]

Although your theory is great, you are forgeting about Hatooboo. It looks a lot like Mamepato but it could end like Shellos and Lapras.

 

[Livewire]

Wasn't Ho-Oh featured in the very first episode of the anime and then again (in a flashback) in the second episode?

Anyways, interesting reference there. I think there's more fun stuff over at that Hoenn company, so those inventions could be used in later generations also. XD

All i remember is that Ash saw Ho-Oh after pikachu zapped the band of spearow's, so either first or second episode. its been 12 years haha. XD

Yeah i agree, it makes me want to work for Gamefreak so i can learn all those hidden secrets. XD

 

[Silver25]

All i remember is that Ash saw Ho-Oh after pikachu zapped the band of spearow's, so either first or second episode. its been 12 years haha. XD

Yeah i agree, it makes me want to work for Gamefreak so i can learn all those hidden secrets. XD

Just for the sake of clarification, it is the 1st episode right at the end.

 

[Kanto_Johto]

In summarizing, Mamepato and Swana could be of the same evolutionary family but at this point it's redundant to think so; besides their ability-which means little-there is nothing to suggest that Mamepato will evolve into Swana.

I certainly don't think Mamepato and Swana are related, but I'm willing to bet that Mamepato and Wooguru are. Odds are stacked against me I think, but I wouldn't be surprised if Wooguru was the final evolution.

 

[Surmonter]

Is it possible that Mamapato evolves into Habooto, then depending on the gender it evolves into either Wooguru or Swana?

I can see that happening. :3