ORAS OU Team Building Competition (Go vote!)

[champagnepapi]

... wait, I just realized Exile's Altaria doesn't have 510 EVs while Jirachi uses a -atk nature (?!) despite using physical attacks.

teambuilder error; i pasted the sets from other teams of mine and edited them, it's fixed now, my bad and thank you for catching this

 

[Anti]

please vote if you haven't yet - will try to get the winner declared tonight, so i'll be closing the voting later on today

 

[halcyonic]

late vote ahhh

voting for exile

 

[Zeffy]

if i may vote, i'm voting for jake. i like how he swayed towards a more defensive style--which is how i would personally utilize jirachi and mega altaria given their amazing synergy.

Tallies of the votes so far (including mine):

Exile - 3 votes
AmourPearlShipper, Jake♫ - 2 votes
Zekrom, , Yoshikko - 1 vote

Additionally, out of 8 participants, only 6 have cast their vote so far.

 

[Anti]

sorry for the delay, i can't seem to locate d_a or sweep or line up online times! next round we'll probably just do away with the panel, which has been rather cumbersome if i'm being honest, and just hold a vote, but for now i still gotta run into them haha. if i still can't in a day or two, i'll just call it based on the voting totals.

which i guess means i should cast my vote, which would be exile if put at gunpoint though i felt like there were plenty of solid ones.

 

[Anti]

Well we (just D_A and myself, sorry Sweep where art thou) decided on a winner. Even after narrowing it somewhat it was a bit tricky but ultimately we decided that...

JAKE TAKES THE CAKE

grats br0

The panel is gone because it made everything take forever so it'll just be votes next time, and with that, the next round's core is...

 

[SkorXX]

here's my team:

Spoiler:

Maniac (Sableye) @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Def / 152 SpA
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Dark Pulse
- Recover

Yale (Talonflame) @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Acrobatics
- U-turn

neon (Excadrill) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Mold Breaker
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide
- Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin

Washington (Rotom-Wash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Volt Switch
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hydro Pump

nymphie (Sylveon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pixilate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Wish
- Protect
- Psyshock

Red Eyes (Gengar) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Taunt
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Focus Blast

Explanation

Spoiler:

I have Mega Sableye and Talonflame as the cores. Mega Sableye has a standard set with Calm Mind to utilize Prankster on the first turn, Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball for STAB and Recover to bring the beast back up! Talonflame has a Banded set as it has a great attack stat. It has Brave Bird, Flare Blitz for STAB and to utilize the high attack stat. It has Max Speed to outspeed things like Weavile, but then again there's Gale Wings. I have Excadrill as a Rapid Spinner and Rotom-W for a Water type with Will-O-Wisp to burn mons. I have Sylveon with Pixilate with Hyper Voice. And Gengar for Taunt to stop set-up Pokemon like Tyranitar and Skarmory.

Anyway, Good Luck to the other participants, and Vote for me if you find it interesting! Also, Feel free to use it! God Bless.

Thanks <3 ~Joaquim

 

[KorpiklaaniVodka]

Spoiler:

Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Calm Mind
- Dark Pulse
- Recover

Talonflame @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 232 SpD / 20 Spe
Careful Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost

Tentacruel @ Leftovers
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 224 HP / 252 Def / 32 Spe
Bold Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Acid Spray
- Sludge Bomb

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Toxic

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 192 SpD / 72 Spe
Careful Nature
- Taunt
- Roost
- Earthquake
- Toxic

Kyurem-Black @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Outrage
- Fusion Bolt
- Iron Head
- Ice Beam

Talonflame and Mega Sableye form a great duo, both covering their weaknesses and Mega Sableye bouncing back SR, which is really detrimental to the Smogon bird.
Tentacruel is a reliable Rapid Spinner that also punishes CM sweepers, like Suicune and Keldeo.
Bronzong helps against Mega Gardy and Lati@s and sets up SR for the team.
Gliscor dispatches Heatran, Landorus-T and helps against Mega Metagross.
Kyurem-B is the revenge killer of the team and adds some offensive presence.

 

[Nah]

So I went and threw a team together:

Spoiler: Importable

Talonflame @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Bulk Up
- Taunt

Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Ball

Ferrothorn @ Shed Shell
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 88 Def / 168 SpD
Sassy Nature
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock
- Protect
- Power Whip

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Slack Off
- Toxic

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Knock Off

Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 236 SpD / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch
- Poison Jab

Spoiler: Explanation

Team kinda ended up being a defensive one again. Decided to go with a Bulk-Up Talonflame so it can actually sponge some Fairy hits for Mega Sableye, and it's pretty good anyway. Not sure about Taunt though. Sableye's running the standard Mega set. Next put Ferrothorn onto the team to cover Talonflame's weaknesses and as a backup Fairy block. Put in Slowbro to complete the Fire-Water-Grass core. Lando-T to set up rocks and deal with Electric attacks since Slowbro and Talonflame hate those. Threw in Conkeldurr to check Dark types have an additional priority move and stuff. Wonder if I should swap out Poison Jab or Knock Off though.

Admittedly the team's a little Magnezone weak....

 

[wolf]

We'll be starting the voting on this Sunday, February 8th. That gives everyone a few more days to come up with a team. Gogogo!

 

[Yoshikko]

yes i will enter this before the time is up. grats jake also!!!

 

[srinator]

Importable :

Spoiler:

Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 96 SpD
Calm Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Shadow Ball
- Calm Mind
- Recover

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Calm Nature
- Moonblast
- Heal Bell
- Wish
- Protect

Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 232 HP / 44 Atk / 156 Def / 76 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Rock Blast
- Roar

Excadrill @ Assault Vest
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 232 HP / 200 Atk / 16 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Iron Head

Ferrothorn @ Shed Shell
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 248 HP / 116 Def / 144 SpD
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Spikes
- Power Whip

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 hp / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost

Description:

Spoiler:

Well I am very well aware of my bad team building skills, dual birds just seemed super cool to me although the tea, was garb, this is not that good but better than he previous one and takes a more semi stall route? Idk lol. Anyway clefable and Sableye match great together and possible one of the most seen core on stall teams today. Rhyp is my bird spam check and possible the one that can kind of check Heatran unless of course it is the more offensive variant, This team actually does have problems against heatran and I would have loved to fin in mantine over talon, rofl. Exca is great, enough speed investments to outspeed the more common Rotom wash, and probably hope the guy thinks I am scarf? Lol kidding. But I think this set is great. Would have given it sr and lefties but I need to try that first. Ferro checks rain spam, kinda checks fairies although everything runs HP Fire, but hopefully people would see running something else over hp Fire on mega diancie is better and run zone with it, Ss helps to get out of there and bring in something like Rhyp after I scout with protect. I use talon as my late game sweep after the first 5 mons have done their jobs of weakening everything as much as possible and the rocks+spikes make talons life easier, exca also helps keep the hazards of the feild. So well that's it.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Not trying to be an ass (which probs means im about to be) but there is quite alot of foe birdspam weak teams being posted. That and the defensive structure is questionable in regards to basically to every common boosting or powerful sweeper. I know oras sucks and whatnot but slow teams with bad defensive structures are a no go. Obviously this doesnt apply to all teams posted but its something to go over because it DOES influence who wins and who loses in this, so it would probably be advisable to take note of common threats a little better. But thats

none of my business. ;)

 

[Anti]

yeah so uhhh maybe in the spirit of being a wee bit more constructive i'd say that adding serp because you're "spore bait" is super paranoid of breloom (u have mega sableye m8 lol) and while it helps with bro/cune i might consider other mons for that. since latios gets a kill every time it comes in (you have no steel or fairy) i would strongly consider azumarill or clefable or something to help with that. cm unaware clef over serp would be much more defensively sound, for example. though since you're an offense team, i also think azumarill is a decent idea and is much less of a tempo killer.

it's just rly difficult to build a solid defensive unit when you're running liabilities like staraptor serp and mamo so i'd bulk it up a bit esp since you dont have quite enough immediate power to make the tradeoff worth it

 

[Detox]

I wasn't really vibing well with Sableye (or the fact that this turned out to be a stall team, and a M-Sableye one at that), but I couldn't find a way to flip this into anything offensive. The closest I got was balance. So, if the team sucks, that's why. I haven't built a stall team since Flygon was actually a threat in OU. Well, I did what I could. Here's the squad.

Here's the importable.

Spoiler:

Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 212 HP / 44 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Smack Down
- Stealth Rock
- Toxic

Slowbro @ Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Psyshock
- Toxic
- Slack Off

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Thunder Wave
- Wish
- Protect

Sableye @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpD
Careful Nature
- Knock Off
- Foul Play
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover

Talonflame @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Brave Bird
- Swords Dance
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost

Latios (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Trick

Here's the explanation.

Spoiler:

Already knowing what my core would be, I immediately started looking for ways to make them as effective as possible. I decided to run bulky utility on M-Sableye and a special defensive Swords Dance set on Talonflame. Blah blah they have synergy and all of that, this has been stated several times in this thread and I don't really need to say that again lol. I chose the Talonflame set I did because I'm a fan of how it can set up on or force out a few notable things, but the main one is opposing Mega Sableye. It can also act as a pseudo-revenge killer if needed, but more often than not that hasn't been needed.

Sableye's job is to deter those who want to fling around entry hazards or status as if they were Oprah Winfrey giving out prizes on an episode of one of her TV Shows. Knock Off is fun because people usually expect the Calm Mind set and switch to the appropriate check or counter, only for its item to be slapped clean off. I play a lot of mind games with this thing, and I only mega evolve it at the appropriate time. I usually try to throw around a few burns, but if that isn't needed then I just get right to the nitty gritty and evolve it to do its job. The rest of the set is fairly obvious, Recover is there for longevity purposes and Foul Play helps it not be setup bait to things like Char-X and Talonflame who love to switch in.

Now, I knew I needed something to setup rocks. I also knew that bird spam was still a thing and I didn't want to end up being ravaged by a Pinsir or Talonflame. Going through all the available options, Rhyperior stood out as an excellent user of Stealth Rock and deterrent to our bird overlords. The set is bog standard and copied directly from Smogon's PokéDex, but that is okay. It does what it needs to very well and I have no complaints. I run Toxic > Ice Punch because Slowbro loves to switch in on my guy, and what better way to get the early jump on CM MegaBro variants than to lure then in and poison them? Most of the things Ice Punch would hit hard (Gliscor, Garchomp, Dragonite Etc.) are of no real concern to me, so I didn't feel as if Ice Punch was needed.

Slowbro is one of my favorite Pokémon nowadays and I plug him in on most any team if I can, whether it be as a late game win condition or as a physical wall, the latter being what I use him as here. Slowbro is a lovely check to Mega Metagross and Keldeo, though I usually scout the hidden power type of Keldeo before switching in. I have to be wary of Grass Knot on MegaGross, but for some reason that seems to be uncommon. I'm not complaining. Anyways yeah, he's bulky and besides walling those two, he can serve as a nice backup check to a lot of things.

I forgot what I originally had in the spot of Clefable, it might have been CB Azumarill, but that wasn't really working for me. Clefable provides much needed wish support and an answer to most setup sweepers. A big reason I added this guy in is because he allows me some wiggle room when it comes to playing around Mega Gyarados, but after its paralyzed I can relax a bit and knock it out with Moonblast, or at least force the switch. I have to be careful because remembering that Clefable is bulky but not really is key, and the amount of powerful attacks it can take is actually about 3 or 4 lol.

Woo boy, this is the only slot that has given me any sort of problems, but even then they are miniscule. Latios is a nice revenge killer, and while I wouldn't have dared used this before, it actually works out quite nicely. Trick is fun because it lets me create setup bait out of things like Chansey and Ferrothorn who oh so commonly switch in. It also serves as my primary method of hazard removal, but considering I have M-Sableye and I know how to play it, Defog is often not needed. I've used it maybe 3 times, idk.

But yeah, that's the team. I think the synergy could be better, but I also feel as if I did a good job checking some of the most common threats in OU and to stall. Will edit post if I make any changes.

 

[srinator]

Yh get a room you two, anyway changed the team in my last post probably not as ass as before but oh well. Just mentioning, I would mark the changes in red but then the whole thing would be red. Hope I'm not too late for this.

 

[LuckyLucario2000]

I cry every time I see a Clefable on an OU team.

 

[Yoshikko]

cry more

Spoiler:

Shammos (Sableye) (M) @ Sablenite
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 4 SpA / 92 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Dark Pulse
- Will-O-Wisp

Spicy chicken (Talonflame) @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpD / 8 Spe
Careful Nature
- Bulk Up
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Taunt

Lava (Heatran) (M) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Protect
- Roar
- Earth Power

Holy Gengar (Clefable) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SpD
Calm Nature
- Moonblast
- Wish
- Protect
- Heal Bell

Wishy (Jirachi) @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock
- Wish

Excadrill (M) @ Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Rock Slide
- Rapid Spin

ok

 

[wolf]

Sorry for the delay. Everyone may now vote for the team that you think is the best. Simply post the username of your preferred winner, along with a reason why (optional). Also please read the criteria:

When voting, consider the criteria that the panel will be using: viability (is the team good?), creativity (does it stray from standard builds?), and synergy (is there evidence of thoughtful team building?).

Good luck!

 

[Anti]

Syndrome

team is all kinds of stall weak but they all kind of were so this gets my vote for being solid all-around. only real critique is half of the team is really easy to wear down or pressure but talon and sab themselves can struggle w/ that and seeing as that was the core, yolo. i felt like uniqueness was mostly a wash and this seemed to be the best team so it gets my vote. gj all