Paul or Gary?

[Mew~]

Just bringing this up from something psyanic and a few others mentioned in the other thread.

Just because Gary had a change in goals doesn't mean he can't battle, or is out of practice. If I recall correctly he'd had a good battle with Ash when Ash had come back home after the Battle Frontier. So he was certainly still catching Pokémon seeing as he'd had that Electivire and possibly more. But yeah, don't rule him out of battling just because he wants to be a professor, as I'm sure he'd have wanted to capture a few Pokémon and research them, even Juniper seems to have a Karrablast to which she will be trading with Bianca in a couple of episode assumedly to see how Karrablast and Shelmet evolve when traded. :x

Even though I've backed Gary up enough. I'm still going for Paul anyway. He certainly had developed a lot throughout the series, without wholly losing his personality. He certainly has team of powerhouses at his disposal. He has as much as experience as Ash, and certainly one tough cookie.

 

[Mentalii]

Gary, he's the best of every Ash's rivals for me.
Besides I can't bear Paul, so the choice wasn't really difficult.

 

[Kenshin5]

Gary, at least he made a decent friendship with Ash. Paul's attitude was just awful and so was his character IMO.

Gary also was seen in Four Saga's so you had a chance to see his character to change from arrogant smug, to nice guy, to researcher. Paul we have just seen in the light of a person who uses whatever method to win and doesn't care whether his pokemon suffered for that or not. Too me it isn't about being nice in a rivalry, since they are rivals after all. Trip isn't exactly nice to Ash either.

I don't know what is question.

Anyway Paul is more irritating than Gary. Actually I hate Paul. Paul is so negative and he doesn't care about his Pokémon. Gary is more like troll.

The question is who would win in a full battle between the two.

 

[Mew~]

Gary also was seen in Four Saga's so you had a chance to see his character to change from arrogant smug, to nice guy, to researcher. Paul we have just seen in the light of a person who uses whatever method to win and doesn't care whether his pokemon suffered for that or not. Too me it isn't about being nice in a rivalry, since they are rivals after all. Trip isn't exactly nice to Ash either.

Hold on a second. Paul definitely developed throughout Sinnoh, I think he learnt a lot from Ash and others throughout the series, he got over that ego of his and took control of his emotions after battling with Brandon. Paul certainly respected Ash at the end of DP, the same will probably be for Trip at the end of BW. :x I see what you mean about the whole nice thing, but it'll almost always end up that way. xD;

 

[Kenshin5]

Hold on a second. Paul definitely developed throughout Sinnoh, I think he learnt a lot from Ash and others throughout the series, he got over that ego of his and took control of his emotions after battling with Brandon. Paul certainly respected Ash at the end of DP, the same will probably be for Trip at the end of BW. :x

I'm not saying he didn't learn a lot or wasn't developed at all but for the most part on the surface he was still that jerk guy, that cared little to knowing of his pokemon well being. Yes he learned a lot from his defeat from Cynthia, Brandon, and Ash I'd say even more so then from his victories. And of course Reggie also played a role in changing him as well.

 

[Mew~]

I'm not saying he didn't learn a lot or wasn't developed at all but for the most part on the surface he was still that jerk guy, that cared little to knowing of his pokemon well being. Yes he learned a lot from his defeat from Cynthia, Brandon, and Ash I'd say even more so then from his victories. And of course Reggie also played a role in changing him as well.

What I meant to add into that post which you missed, was that he ended up becoming a friend and respectful of Ash in the end, as apposed to still being a jerk, because, I don't think he is, seeing as like you said, Brandon, Cynthia and Reggie took part in helping his character develop. But yeah, my main point is that Gary and Paul developed to respect Ash, and other traits. The same will most likely happen with Trip.

 

[PlatinumDude]

Even though Gary was a bit of a jerk to Ash early in the series, I'm going with him because he reformed his friendship with Ash later on in Johto. Paul, on the other hand, was mean to his Pokemon and to Ash until his loss to him (Ash).

 

[psyanic]

Even though Gary was a bit of a jerk to Ash early in the series, I'm going with him because he reformed his friendship with Ash later on in Johto. Paul, on the other hand, was mean to his Pokemon and to Ash until his loss to him (Ash).

Erm, their relationships with Ash have almost nothing to do with a potential battle between the two.

 

[CommanderPigg]

Aw man, as an adamant Paul fan, seeing all these (somewhat incorrect) views of Paul kinda upsets me XD

I agree that Paul was a giant prick in the beginning of the series, and even I hated him for it. But the way he developed...the way his story unfolded was just an excellent story, in my opinion. I can't remember the last time Ash was pushed so hard to become a better trainer. It felt like he had an actual goal for once instead of just "herp derp, go to league and become pokemanz mastaaah." Gary did that too, I suppose, but he was often forgotten about and most of his development didn't come until after his loss in the Johto league.

I love Paul because of the way he influenced Ash and his backstory. His development was really subtle, which is probably why most people still think he's a complete jerk after all this time, but it's definitely there and is very realistic. You can't look at DP188 and say that he hadn't changed. He looked downright depressed when he was leaving Ash...

That being said, I'm also a big comashipper and I think that Paul has a tsundere side to him :P
*shot*

 

[poopy777]

I would so go for Gary, Paul is just plain weird.

 

[The Void]

Update: Finally learned to add a poll in the thread like I just did earlier... and I also submitted my answer (see original post) :)

Also, CommanderPigg is right. Paul is being misunderstood and that really upsets me :(
You guys do know that following the events of Sinnoh League Victors, Paul had somewhat changed a bit as in the first time in the history of Pokemon, Paul actually says "thank you" to Electivire for a job well done, right?
Which means he now actually shows his Pokemon more love and respect and stuff... :)

 

[Shiny]

I'll go with Gary. He was the original rival of Ash's and without him, probably wouldn't of pushed Ash as hard as he did to become better.

 

[Wartortle700]

i would defenitly choose Gary 0.o sure he was a bit of a ducher @ first but he respected his pokemon and never made them trainer too hard (like paul did w/ chimchar) and then he had an opiphiany and became even better

 

[Nepse]

There's no question about it, every anime fan would pick Gary over Paul any day.

 

[Jayster23]

Gary was Ash's inspiration to become the very best. Paul was just as annoying as Team Rocket and challenged Ash whenever. Plus Paul looks like he hasn't slept in days.
Team wise I'd say Paul would win because Gary is no longer a Pokemon Trainer.Even though Gary at his prime vs Paul, i'd give the votes to Gary. But as said before Gary is more of a troll villain, he's there to put out the fact that he IS better than Ash. I mean his a 10 year old driving a convertible with fangirls half naked. What more do you want for your 10th birthday?

 

[Alley Cat]

[SIZE="a"]Paul would take the cake on this one. But only because Gary is out if training. If he was to start training and battling before the battle then he would win, I think. Or they'd get a double k.o. In the final fight.[/SIZE]

 

[Musashi]

Gary Oak. I just friggin' hate Paul.

 

[DarkIceForever]

PAUL is the winner in my book.
Why? He is a tough trainer, not that Gary isn't, but he is more focused in pokemon battling and Gary is not.
Hey! Gary is still a tough trainer, He still beat Pikachu before Ash left to Sinnoh.

 

[Dopefish7590]

Between Paul and Gary, I would have to say that it would definitely be a close match, but I imagine Gary would win.

Paul's rivalry with Ash was more intense than his rivalry with Gary, only because of his gruff and seemingly uncaring disposition. He gained experience, lots of it, and he respects Ash despite not liking him very much. His Pokemon are obviously strong, very strong, but he tends to go for more power than anything, he does put some good thought into his moves though.

Gary Oak is a friend of Ash, and has gained respect from him, as well as being friendly. Because of this, some people don't see as much pressure from him as they did Paul, making them think that he is the weaker of the two rivals. This is certainly not true, not only had Gary achieved considerably more than Ash in the same amount of time, (Paul progressed at the same pace as Ash overall, maybe even a little slower) he also happens to be an outstanding tactician. He picks things up about his opponents much faster than Paul does. His Pokemon are strong, but he doesn't have as many powerhouses as Paul does, but as he showed in every Battle against Ash, even after losing in the Pokemon League, this doesn't affect how difficult he is to beat.

 

[Misty~]

Gary LOL i liked how he teased Ash.