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Political Correctness: A Blessing or A Curse?

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    I honestly don't even like the term "Political Correctness" because it is just common courtesy to me. It's common courtesy to at least treat others with tolerance and a certain level of respect. The term "political correctness" is just so convoluted these days.
     

    Frostweaver

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    I honestly don't even like the term "Political Correctness" because it is just common courtesy to me. It's common courtesy to at least treat others with tolerance and a certain level of respect. The term "political correctness" is just so convoluted these days.

    The current problem is that the expected level of courtesy is no longer "common." Otherwise, we won't have this thread where there's disagreement between where is "crossing the line."

    As others said, political correctness is heading towards some form of censorship. However, people who support political correctness will probably support that certain form of censorship and restraint are good. It's really different of viewpoints and throwing the word "freedom/censorship" doesn't necessarily mean one side is good/bad anymore (it's like the whole "socialism is bad!" but look at Sanders now~)
     

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    Honestly, I think with the rise of social media, political correctness has gotten out of control since now the PC thugs have more outlets to spread their propaganda. I don't believe in giving special treatment to anyone - everyone should be treated equally. For example, the early feminists didn't want women to get special treatment, they wanted women to be treated the same as men. Our society has gotten to a point where we are paranoid about offending people. The PC crowd basically sees the world in black and white (i.e. X is good, Y is bad). Real life is more complicated than that. We can't just put everyone into "good" and "bad" categories. We often apply it to political parties - people don't realize that "liberal" and "conservative" are very wide spectrums. I identify as a conservative, but I'm not in the same league as someone like Donald Trump or Jean-Marie Le Pen. I've heard plenty of self-described liberals criticise political correctness. The current wave of political correctness proves that totalitarianism isn't just a right-wing idea.
     
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    I am of the belief that anyone should say whatever they want to say. But at the same time, that is cause for others to be able to say whatever they want to say to them.

    People that complain about PC are dumb. At least in the United States, anyway. You're LEGALLY allowed to say whatever you want. You're not being oppressed by going on a racist rampage and then not going to jail. You're allowed, legally to say whatever you want.

    Can people respond, though? Well, if you have the right to say what you want, they do too. You think you're being oppressed because your boss fired you for saying homophobic things? You think you're being oppressed because people postponed your product because you - the CEO of a big company - decided to go on record and say something sexist or against fat people?

    You're not oppressed. You're allowed to say whatever you want, and people are allowed to respond to that however they want (within the law, of course). People that complain about PC just want to be able to go on racist, sexist, homophobic, (etc.) tirades without feeling any repercussions.

    As for me? I am far from PC. I say offensive things if I have to, I say what I feel. But I don't complain when other people say that they get offended by the things I say. I PERSONALLY don't care if they get offended, but I also don't care to go and complain about people being "PC."
     
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    Honestly, I think with the rise of social media, political correctness has gotten out of control since now the PC thugs have more outlets to spread their propaganda.
    What have people done that warrant them being called thugs?

    The current wave of political correctness proves that totalitarianism isn't just a right-wing idea.
    How is political correctness akin to totalitarianism?

    I'm not trying to be a smartass, but these are terms with heavy implications and I haven't seen anything that convinces me the idea of political correctness is anywhere near these ideas in scope or scale.
     
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    I think political correctness is a good thing because it stop hate but sometimes I know people who take it to far and take advantage of it and use it for petty things. Now I believe in Freedom of Speech and its one of the most important rights out there because it gives us the right to speak our minds.
    But in my experince when I hear " Political Correctness has gone to far" its from people who are rude, uneducated and racist. I hear lots of people who support the EDL and Britain First use that phrase quite often.
    Therefore I feel like I am on both sides of the argument.
     
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    You can't please everyone. Political Correctness is just one of those concepts that try to find a middle way in order to please as many as possible, however, it's not a guaranted success in that regard.

    I don't think it's inherently bad, but I also believe that it needs to evolve over time. There are a lot of words that where considered bad or blasphemic or whatever, that you just wheren't allowed to use in the past, that got kind of accepted after a while and likewise political correctness should adopt more and more words over time. Which ones though, that can only time tell. Adopting words also means that people get a little bit more out of their right of free speech.
     

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    I got a solution guys... How about the government prints off butthurt reports for everybody and mails them to your address so if anytime we get offended by someone or something we can fill them out? We're living in a politically correct world where you can't say or do anything (literally) without someone getting offended. Like television for example.. Every sitcom or television show HAS to have a homosexual or homosexual pair or it's not politically correct. Every show has to include an African American or it's racist if you don't while at the same time African American television shows has nothing but African Americans, that's quite the double standard. Or feminists for example... You can't crack a joke if it involves a man, they'll question why isn't the person a female? You can't include anything a "female" wouldn't be involved with because it's something a man would do. To make matters worse, if that female in the joke isn't "black" you're racist. It's gotten to the point now where you can't say anything without someone labeling you as something because we're living in the land of the butthurt generation. Hell comedy isn't even comedy anymore because someone "may" be offended. It's called "comedy" and it should not be censored or taken seriously as an direct attack. We attack these things directly yet we think it's acceptable for females even young females to dress like hoes, get pregnant at 16, kill cops, say black lives matters when they're literally killing eachother on an hourly basis, etc?

    You can call me racist all you want or you can label me as anti-gay or sexist all you want but you'd only be fooling yourself. Everything I said above is fact and you're obviously blind if can't see it.
     
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    Neil Peart

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    I got a solution guys... How about the government prints off butthurt reports for everybody and mails them to your address so if anytime we get offended by someone or something we can fill them out? We're living in a politically correct world where you can't say or do anything (literally) without someone getting offended. Like television for example.. Every sitcom or television show HAS to have a homosexual or homosexual pair or it's not politically correct. Every show has to include an African American or it's racist if you don't while at the same time African American television shows has nothing but African Americans, that's quite the double standard. Or feminists for example... You can't crack a joke if it involves a man, they'll question why isn't the person a female? You can't include anything a "female" wouldn't be involved with because it's something a man would do. To make matters worse, if that female in the joke isn't "black" you're racist. It's gotten to the point now where you can't say anything without someone labeling you as something because we're living in the land of the butthurt generation. Hell comedy isn't even comedy anymore because someone "may" be offended. It's called "comedy" and it should not be censored or taken seriously as an direct attack. We attack these things directly yet we think it's acceptable for females even young females to dress like hoes, get pregnant at 16, kill cops, say black lives matters when they're literally killing eachother on an hourly basis, etc?

    You can call me racist all you want or you can label me as anti-gay or sexist all you want but you'd only be fooling yourself. Everything I said above is fact and you're obviously blind if can't see it.

    The comedy thing is bullshit. Yes, there are people who whine about certain jokes comedians tell, but let's go back to the 60s, when comedians like Lenny Bruce and George Carlin were being arrested for telling "obscene" jokes. If you think we're worse off today than we were then in terms of offensive material, you're the one kidding yourself. Also, the number of people against teen pregnancy and promiscuity far outnumbers the people who think it's just fine. I have no idea where the hell you got that bit.

    As far as your tasteless bit about "Black Lives Matter," even if they are killing each other at the rate you specified, what does that have to do with cops killing unarmed blacks at an alarming rate?
     

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    I might have something to add to the topic itself later, but I just want to clarify that Black Lives Matter is about defending black lives in the face of overwhelming racial aggression from police and institutional racism as a whole, regardless of whether the black community are 'literally killing each other on an hourly basis.'
     

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    As far as your tasteless bit about "Black Lives Matter," even if they are killing each other at the rate you specified, what does that have to do with cops killing unarmed blacks at an alarming rate?

    What about the whites or other minorities police have killed that were unarmed? Or what about the cops the blacks kill which we're seeing numbers we've never seen before? Oh wait... This politically correct country doesn't show it, that's right. If it doesn't fit the corporate medias agenda it doesn't get aired which is to continue to keep us divided racially, sexually, religiously, etc. Deny it all you want. MLK would be pissed if he were alive today.

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    I might have something to add to the topic itself later, but I just want to clarify that Black Lives Matter is about defending black lives in the face of overwhelming racial aggression from police and institutional racism as a whole, regardless of whether the black community are 'literally killing each other on an hourly basis.'

    As I said. What about the cops being killed? So their lives don't matter? What about the whites and other races other than African American, does their lives not matter? Ok, got it. jsyk blacks can be racist too.. Oops, did I just say that? Guess I'm racist right? I mean, it is a politically correct era...
     
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    What about the whites or other minorities police have killed that were unarmed? Or what about the cops the blacks kill which we're seeing numbers we've never seen before? Oh wait... This politically correct country doesn't show it, that's right. If it doesn't fit the corporate medias agenda it doesn't get aired which is to continue to keep us divided racially, sexually, religiously, etc. Deny it all you want. MLK would be pissed if he were alive today.

    You're acting horribly misguided just so you can keep in line with your anti-PC rhetoric. As Harley said, BLM is about fighting the disproportionate amount of violence against blacks by police. Blacks make up 2% of the population, yet young black men were nine times more likely to be killed by a cop than any other American in 2015. You think BLM is just about being PC? Try statistics. Or, look at Ferguson. After Michael Brown was killed, an investigation into Ferguson's police force found rampant racism in their standards and practices. So, when you tell me this is about PC, I say bullshit.
     

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    You're acting horribly misguided just so you can keep in line with your anti-PC rhetoric. As Harley said, BLM is about fighting the disproportionate amount of violence against blacks by police. Blacks make up 2% of the population, yet young black men were nine times more likely to be killed by a cop than any other American in 2015. You think BLM is just about being PC? Try statistics. Or, look at Ferguson. After Michael Brown was killed, an investigation into Ferguson's police force found rampant racism in their standards and practices. So, when you tell me this is about PC, I say bull****.

    Okay.. So what about the blacks that spray painted black lives matter on cars that have bumper stickers saying police lives matter? Or what about the tombstone of a deceased officer spray painted black lives matter on it? Or what about destroying their home and community by rioting and acting like an animal everytime one of them gets shot in what seems to be, actually in what is a crime filled neighborhood or town/city where murders are normal? I lived in St. Louis half my life dude, Ferguson is the subs of the East Lou which is the worst section of St. Louis, it's filled with NOTHING but GANG BANGERS. I've been through East Lou and Ferguson both and it's the exact same as South and West Chicago which is where a majority of the Chicago crime is. I'm talking the same area where a CHILD was EXECUTED on the streets for snitching on the rival gang member that killed his father. Try justifying that one.

    If they want to create and be involved with a movement like this then act like that it shows they devalue their race. It shows others the stereotype and stigma for blacks as the typical thug/criminal then they pull the race card and try to justify their lives matter when their being a menace and a typical "animal"? Sorry, I'm not buying it. Spray painting black lives matter on a deceased persons tombstone cop or not is disrespectful and that person deserves to get his/her ass kicked. Period. Trashing and destroying where you live is disrespectful and selfish, period. It shows me that they don't give a shit about anything other than their own race, which even then I'm not convinced they actually care about by their actions, since they murder innocent children, or at least those that act like that.
     
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    You're acting horribly misguided just so you can keep in line with your anti-PC rhetoric. As Harley said, BLM is about fighting the disproportionate amount of violence against blacks by police. Blacks make up 2% of the population, yet young black men were nine times more likely to be killed by a cop than any other American in 2015. You think BLM is just about being PC? Try statistics. Or, look at Ferguson. After Michael Brown was killed, an investigation into Ferguson's police force found rampant racism in their standards and practices. So, when you tell me this is about PC, I say bullshit.

    Gee, I'm sure there is totally something not wrong about that.

    But, you know, it's better to blame police and support an organization that incites violence. Truly the "liberal" thing to do, but we have double standards and allow people violently attack the KKK at their Anaheim protests because it's hate speech when a bunch of white supremacists does a protest, but when a group advocates for violence against police, god forbid they get arrested for inciting hate speech. Clearly they're not doing anything wrong at all, because apparently racism is privilege plus power.
     

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    Every movement is going to have its extreme outliers. Spewing those off doesn't do anything for your argument. By and large, BLM does not condone any of the shit that you listed. You've essentially backed yourself into a corner by bringing up bad apple actions and conflating them with the whole movement.
     

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    Every movement is going to have its extreme outliers. Spewing those off doesn't do anything for your argument. By and large, BLM does not condone any of the shit that you listed. You've essentially backed yourself into a corner by bringing up bad apple actions and conflating them with the whole movement.

    So you're saying that those chants calling to "fry 'em like bacon", the whole mob of the Minneapolis group telling a black cop to kill himself, the attacks of police by activists, the no-platforming of Berne Sanders, Baltimore burning as well as other riots are totally not violent? Bullshit. They're violent. The majority of them are, the rest are just blind sheep following the extremists.
     

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    So you're saying that those chants calling to "fry 'em like bacon", the whole mob of the Minneapolis group telling a black cop to kill himself, the attacks of police by activists, the no-platforming of Berne Sanders, Baltimore burning as well as other riots are totally not violent? Bull****. They're violent. The majority of them are, the rest are just blind sheep following the extremists.

    I never said it was totally non-violent. I said there are EXTREMES in every group, and you can't discount the entire movement based on their actions.
     

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    I never said it was totally non-violent. Reading comprehension comes in handy sometimes. I said there are EXTREMES in every group, and you can't discount the entire movement based on their actions.
    Except the majority in BLM are violent and the rest are blind sheep. It's hard for it to be "discounted" when it practically discounted itself hurting the very communities they intended to help.
     

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    The MAJORITY? I have to see a source on this one. Try to get it from a neutral source and not Faux News.

    :laugh: (where's the laughing so hard you crying emoji when you need it?) did you seriously just drop the conservative vs liberal news sources? I'm assuming your sources are from MSNBC and other liberal broadcasts right? Proving your oblivious to the fact that the media controls opinions... How long is it gonna take for people to realize the media is full of lies and it's a manipulation tool used to keep us divided and brainwashed? God this is epic. No wonder this country is so politically correct when this bullcrap is shoved down our throats through the media.. But hey... I'm wrong you're right since it's impossible to argue with a liberal :rolleyes2:. So for me, I'm done after reading what you said. I can no longer take you seriously. Neutral source and not Fox News :laugh::laugh::laugh: please, just stop. Try finding a balance between the two parties rather than jumping on the bandwagon of one or the other. Or simply stop believing everything you hear on the news. Just some words of wisdom you should consider.
     
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