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Zam hasn't lost the elemental punches, but 50 base Attack is the minus in using the punches.
Zam hasn't lost the elemental punches, but 50 base Attack is the minus in using the punches.
If Umbreon is the last Pokemon Sucker Puch would be very usefull. Also if they had been Toxict I could use it to avoid another attack since they'd already have low health. Plus who is going to be expecting being out speeded by an Umbreon tank?i'd use payback, umbreon probably wont be doing enough damage with sucker punch anyway, unless you specifically need to outspeed a frail psychic type
although taunt might work well in conjunction with sucker punch
If Umbreon is the last Pokemon Sucker Puch would be very usefull. Also if they had been Toxict I could use it to avoid another attack since they'd already have low health. Plus who is going to be expecting being out speeded by an Umbreon tank?
On Nasty Plot Houndoom, I'm currently running Hidden Power Psychic to smack around junk like Poliwrath/Hariyama/(insert bulky fighter or poison type here). It works pretty well, but HP Psychic doesn't hit Gallade for super effective. HP Flying gets the bulky Fighters and Gallade, but costs you IVs in Special Attack and Speed(which NP Doom wants), where Hidden Power Psychic doesn't cost either of these. Which Hidden Power should I use?
I don't really see the point of using this instead of Jirachi who has ~2% better defenses, better Special Attack, 101 Substitutes, etc. and in general a much more instant threat (Bronzong has to Calm Mind up more). But, if your team needs a Ground immunity, then ok.Mostly, Bronzong is used as a Stealth Rocker, Trick Roomer or a supporter. But sometimes it's used as a sweeper rarely in teams. Which is why I've came up with the best moveset I can think of for a sweeping Bronzong. Can be used well against some Pokemon. But it still has it's flaws.
Nature: Bold
EV's: 252 HP/176 Def/76 Sp. Atk
Ability: Levitate
Held Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry
Psychic
Flash Cannon
Calm Mind
Hypnosis/Rest
I know it doesn't look like a sweeper but it still takes hits really well and plays the long game. This Pokemon can even sweep or stall depending on it's moveset.
252 HP and 176 Def makes Bronzong take hits from physical sweepers like Tyranitar and Salamence with ease. The spare EV's goes to Sp. Atk for more damage.
Psychic is a must have on a sweeping Bronzong since it's a STAB attack.
Flash Cannon is another STAB move against Dark type Pokemon.
Calm Mind makes it more of a staller and a sweeper at the same time. Gengar will have trouble getting through this Bronzong.
The last move can either be Rest or Hypnosis. Rest is for healing it's HP right back up for more stalling. If it has a Chesto Berry. It instantly wakes up from it's sleep so that my opponenet has to do the role all over again.
Hypnosis can be used to make my opponent go to sleep and then set up. But it won't be stalling as it used to do. Plus, I won' get rid of the status problem if it has one.
And finally, the Leftovers is to gain little HP every turn for some more stalling.
So, what do you think? Good? Any improvements I need? Please reply. Thank you.
^ These are the correct calculations.okaii let me get this stab thing straight
If garchomp uses EQ on metagross does stab make it
100+100(spr effective)+100(half 200 stab)=300
or
100+50(stab)+100(spr effective)= 250
also
if abomasnow uses avalanch on hippo is it
60+60(last)+120(spr effective) +120(half 240)=360
or
60+60(last)+120(spr effective)+30(half 60)=270
I don't really see the point of using this instead of Jirachi who has ~2% better defenses, better Special Attack, 101 Substitutes, etc. and in general a much more instant threat (Bronzong has to Calm Mind up more). But, if your team needs a Ground immunity, then ok.
But, I would suggest Hidden Power Fire over Flash Cannon, as it lets Bronzong dent Steel-types.
^ These are the correct calculations
thanx i reall needed 2 know that, just had to say but...............
OKAMI IS AWSOME!!!!! lol
Are you serious? RP ZONG? I mean, I used this to troll on the server once. 79 Special Attack is awful and will get you no where. Flash Cannon cannot OHKO max HP Smeargle and even standard Hippowdon walls you. Honestly, quit being an idiot (Aura reference <3) and look at your movesets to make sure they don't suck before posting here. One good suggestion would be to test the moveset first, since Surf is illegal on Bronzong, making it obvious that you never used this at all. Realize what gimmicks are, and don't make horrible movesets just to be unique. Come back with some logic (this is also a great recommendation to a lot other members), and we will welcome you with friendly hands. Use Agility Metagross.Brozong @ Life Orb
Timid nature
EVs: 6 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Rock Polish
-Flash Cannon
-Psychic
-Surf
Rock Polish to outspeed common threats.
Are you serious? RP ZONG? I mean, I used this to troll on the server once. 79 Special Attack is awful and will get you no where. Flash Cannon cannot OHKO max HP Smeargle and even standard Hippowdon walls you. Honestly, quit being an idiot (Aura reference <3) and look at your movesets to make sure they don't suck before posting here. One good suggestion would be to test the moveset first, since Surf is illegal on Bronzong, making it obvious that you never used this at all. Realize what gimmicks are, and don't make horrible movesets just to be unique. Come back with some logic (this is also a great recommendation to a lot other members), and we will welcome you with friendly hands. Use Agility Metagross.
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Edit: FreakyLocz14: Bibarel is actually a decent sweeper.
That was on Smogon.
Hows this for Xatu?
Xatu @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 Spd/ 252 SpA
-Trick
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Signal Beam/Heat Wave
I've been trying to come up with a good set for xatu. thoughts on this one?