Request an Individual Move Set Thread

[FinalPaladin]

may I ask,what items should i give my BT team which consists of
starmie,dragonite and metagross
i was thinkin of starmie@expertbelt dragonite@leftovers and metagross@focusband
please do not suggest choice items
thanx

 

[El Gofre]

It depends entirely on the sets, but focus band should never be used. Post the sets (That way we can help with them too).

 

[FinalPaladin]

sorry cant tell you the EVs

metagross
earthquake
meteormash
explosion
bulletpunch

starmie
thunderbolt
icebeam
surf
psychic

dragonite
firepunch
outrage
earthquake
thunderpunch(i forgot dragondance for thunderpunch as dragonite kept getting killed by water types that new icebeam,but i still struggle with swamperts avalanch)

 

[El Gofre]

sorry cant tell you the EVs

metagross@Choice Band/Leftovers
earthquake
meteormash
explosion
bulletpunch
This set really wants a band, but since you won't have them for some reason go lefties- he's pretty bulky

starmie@Life Orb
thunderbolt
icebeam
surf
Grass Knot
Expert belt is pretty meh, this thing doesnt have the most awesome coverage anyway. Grass knot solves your swampert problem, you can switch you know.

dragoniteYache Berry
firepunch
outrage
earthquake
thunderpunch(i forgot dragondance for thunderpunch as dragonite kept getting killed by water types that new icebeam,but i still struggle with swamperts avalanch) Meh
If you don't like ice attacks, slap on a yache. You could go Life Orb, but that would involve giving starmie Specs (Which is preferable anyway). I suppose expert belt could be used at a push.

My opinions in bold. You're really limiting yourself by not allowing choice items, they work very well in BT

 

[FinalPaladin]

hey thanx.ok so metagross lefties,starmie lifeorb and i will give dragonite expert belt
who should lead

 

[El Gofre]

hey thanx.ok so metagross lefties,starmie lifeorb and i will give dragonite expert belt
who should lead

Either of your physical attackers, they do the same thing anyway. In fact having two is kinda redundant, but meh.

 

[FinalPaladin]

i have 2 because of blissey,and snorlax abit. do you think that starmie is better than milotic

 

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Starmie and Milotic do two entirely different things. And if this is a Baton Pass Chain, I'd reccomend you get a mixed sweeper, since it sort of takes up 2 slots:

Tyranitar @ Life Orb
Naughty
252 Att/232 SpA/24 Spe
Crunch
Stone Edge/EQ
Flamethrower
Ice Beam

Best Baton Pass receiver in my opinion. Hits a large amount of types for super effective (and isn't lol walled like Electivire) Does best with an Agility pass, and a +SpA won't hurt (hint, Charge Beam + Agility Zapdos does the trick) And an SD pass would be nice.

However, as for Metagross, I'd strongly reccomend Life Orb. It has a lot of kick, but terrible type coverage (Steel = One of the worst offensive typings) However, since you'll be BPing boosts, it won't matter. Use Meteor Mash/EQ/Bullet Punch (if you're not BPing speed)/Thunderpunch or Explosion.

Then, of course, there's Medicham and Azumarill. I use Azumarill, but Medicham benefits from OHKOing basically everything after a Belly Drum.

 

[FinalPaladin]

hey thanx.woohoo i just realized that my dragonite can 2HKO blissey
i agree with you about the steel type.it only hits rock n ice,so does fighting.
thanx again.
oh yeh i now hate ludicolo as drgonite can kill em

 

[4th Gen Matt]

Can anybody suggest a good OU Rain Dance team?

 

[Clevink]

I'm playing Emerald 386, and I'm in need of a strong flying type Pokemon. I don't want and of the usual OU Poke's, Charizard, Altaria, Salamence, etc. This won't be for competitive battling or anything, just for the normal game play. Preferably an UU/NU and no ubers, please.

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

Ingame advice isn't given here, sorry.

 

[.]

Can anybody suggest a good OU Rain Dance team?

All Rain Dance teams should have a solid, reliable opener. Most teams use Bronzong, but with the sudden surge of suicide leads, Deoxys-e can work wonderfully (although Bronzong makes a very solid opener)

Deoxys-e @ Damp Rock
Timid
252 HP/252 Spe/6 SpA
Rain Dance
Thunder
Taunt
Reflect/Light Screen/Stealth Rock/Recover

Abuse that 100% accuracy of Thunder for that nice paralysis chance.

As for sweepers, Kingdra is usually a safe bet. Which set you'd like to use is entirely up to you; mixed or special. Mixed stops Blissey, but special lets you switch in easier since you aren't using a -Def nature.

Ludicolo is excellent in the rain; a wall, leech seeder, and rain starter in one. It's pretty key.

Gyarados is a staple in most Rain Dance teams; Rest-Talk set is awesome since with Rain Dance boosting Waterfall (your mono attack) it'll dish out more damage than you'd think.

 

[Sphere]

Can anybody suggest a good OU Rain Dance team?

I've seen people use Qwilfish suicide leads with something like Rain Dance/Waterfall/Explosion/Poison Jab holding Focus Sash... they Dance then boom, taking out a poke and setting up rain, kind of like suicide Trick Room Explosion Bronzongs.

To avoid being Taunted, though (which ruins the strategy), use the Deoxys-E Vance recommended, since it's the fastest Taunter out there....

Floatzel works in rain by providing some nice physical power, although he's fragile. A lot of Rain teams carry Electivire/Swampert/Garchomp to take Electric attacks.

Gorebyss and Omastar are rarely seen but deserve a mention since they have some of the highest Special Attack stats of Water-types, and are only beaten by Clamperl iirc.

As a general rule you should always have at least two Dancers - this holds particularly true in OU, where Sandstream is rampant. You could probably fit Rain Dance easily on Kingdra and Ludicolo.

And always remember that Rain teams and non-Rain teams aren't mutually exclusive; that is, not ALL of your Pokemon have to benefit from the Rain. For example, you might keep a MixApe for late-game sweeping after your Rain strategy has weakened the opponent.

I hope I helped! ^_^

 

[4th Gen Matt]

All great strategies. Thanks.

Is there any Pokemon that makes it rain upon entering (not Heavy Rain.)

 

[ABYAY]

Nope; there are no Pokemon that do that. Only Kyogre can bring Rain, and Groudon brings the sun until the weather is changed. I personally think that they should get some non-Uber Drizzlers and Droughters out there in the next generation (if one)

 

[The Hero Without a Name]

I always thought one of the reasons Kyogre and Groudon were in Ubers (besides colossal stats) was because of all the Pokemon able to abuse the sun and the rain (more than Hail and maybe Sandstorm, I'd presume)

 

[devilicious]

Nope; there are no Pokemon that do that. Only Kyogre can bring Rain, and Groudon brings the sun until the weather is changed. I personally think that they should get some non-Uber Drizzlers and Droughters out there in the next generation (if one)

The metagame would be -really- centralized at Sun and Rain teams, so I really hope they do not.

 

[FinalPaladin]

hey can i have a set for salamence ang gengar please
would gengar make a good replacement for my metagross with these

gengar
energyball
focusblast
shadowball
sludgebomb

should i switch dragonite with mence

 

[El Gofre]

The metagame would be -really- centralized at Sun and Rain teams, so I really hope they do not.

Why would it?

hey can i have a set for salamence ang gengar please
would gengar make a good replacement for my metagross with these
Having two special sweepers over two physical ones still leaves you with a redundant slot.

gengar
Thunderbolt
focusblast
shadowball
Hypnosis



should i switch dragonite with mence
Depends, as mentioned below.

Comments in bold. Whether you should use mence or not is down to how you wanna use him. If you're keeping metagross over gengar, then a mixMence balances the trio out nicely: One physical attacker, one special, one mixed. That's what I'd recommend. Having both gengar and starmie is pretty pointless, so a CB mence could be used to make up for the lack of physical attackers, of if you have acess to platinum you can get DD+Outrage on him/.