5th Gen Stronger than Arceus?

[coolnick37]

if this is true, then we only have the Turtle, the Phoenix and the Dragon left. These could surpass Arceus.

We already have phoenix, its ho-oh, btw ho-oh does actually means phoenix in japanese.
That leaves dragon and turtle. :D

 

[stargate1995]

What I want to see is the opposite of Arceus, the destroyer. Seen as Arceus created the world/Universe/Pokemon I'de like a Pokemon to try to destroy the world/Univ.... possibly making the plot for the 3rd installment in this series... Anyway I don't belive this will happen and that Arceus will remain unchallenged for now.

 

[pokewalker]

We already have phoenix, its ho-oh, btw ho-oh does actually means phoenix in japanese.
That leaves dragon and turtle. :D

yeah that does make sense... and what if Rayquaza is the dragon? it is a typical chinese dragon, so it DOES make sense :\ and if that is true, its only logical that in this generation the Turtle will come... and surpass arceus.

 

[MushroomZOMBIE]

Yeah im thinking like a time travel pokemon. or something like that, which could have something to do with the storyline.

We've forgotten a certain green fairy-like creature, haven't we?

 

[Sora's Nobody]

We've forgotten a certain green fairy-like creature, haven't we?

Haha. Woops, dang. Well what other skill could a pokemon have? What about a pokemon who hmmm how to say this. punishes sins.

 

[Houndoom Shinigami]

I agree with all of you. If Victini ends up being stronger than Arceus...that will be EPIC!

Victini uses ????(whatever).
Arceus was defeated by enemy's ????!

See what I mean? Victini (tiny) vs God (Arceus) and Victini wins? Insanely epic.

 

[Åzurε]

I agree with all of you. If Victini ends up being stronger than Arceus...that will be EPIC!

Victini uses ????(whatever).
Arceus was defeated by enemy's ????!

See what I mean? Victini (tiny) vs God (Arceus) and Victini wins? Insanely epic.

It all boils down to the "Conservation of Ninjutsu" prinicple. Arceus is too big. His power, massive as it is, is spread throughout his entire body. Victini has a great deal of power himself, but it's compressed into a teeny tiny body.
Therefore, Vic is effectively stronger than Arceus.

If you ever hear about a legendary germ Pokemon, run like hell.

 

[Sora's Nobody]

It all boils down to the "Conservation of Ninjutsu" prinicple. Arceus is too big. His power, massive as it is, is spread throughout his entire body. Victini has a great deal of power himself, but it's compressed into a teeny tiny body.
Therefore, Vic is effectively stronger than Arceus.

If you ever hear about a legendary germ Pokemon, run like hell.

Haha. Good ine. Victini also looks smarter, as it has more compreseed brain power

 

[Houndoom Shinigami]

I agree with both of you now...plus, since Arceus is big, he would have trouble hitting Victini either way, cuz' Victini would be able to dodge them anyways.

 

[Sora's Nobody]

I agree with both of you now...plus, since Arceus is big, he would have trouble hitting Victini either way, cuz' Victini would be able to dodge them anyways.

Yeah i think we all agree Victini will probably replace Arceus.

 

[Houndoom Shinigami]

Yeah, I guess. And I always thought that since Victini was #000 in the Isshu Pokedex and was considered Phantom, he would obviously be stronger than Arceus.

 

[pokewalker]

Yeah, I guess. And I always thought that since Victini was #000 in the Isshu Pokedex and was considered Phantom, he would obviously be stronger than Arceus.

if that's true, Victini is gonna be a über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-über-pokemon.

 

[The Red Chain]

Yeah i think we all agree Victini will probably replace Arceus.

Where are you guys even getting this from? Victini is a small legendary, with all base 100 stats, or a base stat total of 600.
Proven in this picture :

As you can see, all of Victini's stats are around each other number wise, the varying happening because of IVs. You encounter Victini at level 15, as shown in the preview I got this picture from. The 58 in HP : I ran a calculation for a level 15 Jirachi with 31 IVs in HP, and it has 59. Therefore Victini has a 30 IV in HP, hence the massiveness. XD

I'm afraid a small legendary will not be replacing Arceus anytime soon. On-topic, I do not believe Arceus will get a counterpart at all. That would be pushing it wayyy too far.
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[Houndoom Shinigami]

Well, we're just disscussing anyway...lol. Well, it depends what you believe. I saw Victini's stats and some were higher than Arceus's, but I saw that a long time ago, they could've changed and there you have it.

 

[Mew~]

Maybe~ But Arceus is really only somthing to do with Sinnoh myths and ledgends, so we could get an even stronger pokemon from Issue since its a far away region so they may have there own beliefs n' stuff!

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Well I don't want a pokemon to surpass Arceus, it would make the other pokemon less attractive to use in a Uber battle...

 

[Sora's Nobody]

Well I don't want a pokemon to surpass Arceus, it would make the other pokemon less attractive to use in a Uber battle...

So you just from now on they should just had less improtant powerwise pokemon? I mean you'll always end up envying arceus.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

So you just from now on they should just had less improtant powerwise pokemon? I mean you'll always end up envying arceus.

Yeah well it's the "God" so it makes sense in a way to keep it the pinnacle :)

 

[Sora's Nobody]

Yeah well it's the "God" so it makes sense in a way to keep it the pinnacle :)

What if we have angel pokemon now? Or "Messenger"
Pokemon as they'll probably call it.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Well the messenger will still not be as powerful as Arceus...