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    Jolly Mamoswine (without a boosting Item) deals 98% min with Ice Shard. So basically any Mamoswine can revenge kill it. Scizor deals 59.94% - 71.05% with Bullet Punch, so two switches into SR seals it. Scarf Heatran laughs at it as long as it doesn't switch-into Earth Power. Crobat eliminates it instantly. Dragonite is pretty cool to use as long as Shaymin-S doesn't have HP Ice. \o/ Bronzong only takes 23.67% - 28.40% from a LO Timid Shaymin-S' HP Fire.

    But yeah. X3

    Edit: I wonder if Rotom-A does a good job countering it...
     

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  • The really bad theorymon going on in this thread aside, the results are in, and Latios, Shaymin-S, and Garchomp are Uber forever. None of the really results surprise me considering all of my predictions were correct, but wow, Garchomp was really close.

    And btw I think you guys are all seriously underestimating Shaymin-S lol.
     

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    The really bad theorymon going on in this thread aside, the results are in, and Latios, Shaymin-S, and Garchomp are Uber forever. None of the really results surprise me considering all of my predictions were correct, but wow, Garchomp was really close.

    And btw I think you guys are all seriously underestimating Shaymin-S lol.

    Ughh, is all i have to say.

    Screams "i am not willing to adapt" lol :x
     

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  • Oh god, Manaphy in OU...

    That was really the only surprise for me, I'm didn't realize Garchomp would be so close though.
     
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    Time to pack SpecsJolt. x]

    I really wanted Garchomp back though. :\
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Sub/Ice Beam/Calm Mind or Tail Glow/Surf Manaphy + T-Spikes support sounds fun. Oh..wait...new team idea.

    -Lurks off- ekeke >]
     

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  • You guys also might want to check this out, since I agree with the idea that 44-41 is not exactly...decisive? The metagame has changed way too much for me even to have an opinion on Garchomp anymore (it's basically a different game than it was a year ago), so I don't think the case should be closed. I wouldn't be furious if it was though because a supermajority may never happen. Hard to say.

    Either way, Latios was the best suspect imo. Glad it's gone. I haven't played against Skymin (or Garchomp as I said earlier) in a very long time, so I'm not going to argue either way. I've never played vs Manaphy so obviously i cant say much. I'm just glad latios is uber. the thing is insane.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    You guys also might want to check this out, since I agree with the idea that 44-41 is not exactly...decisive? The metagame has changed way too much for me even to have an opinion on Garchomp anymore (it's basically a different game than it was a year ago), so I don't think the case should be closed. I wouldn't be furious if it was though because a supermajority may never happen. Hard to say.

    Either way, Latios was the best suspect imo. Glad it's gone. I haven't played against Skymin (or Garchomp as I said earlier) in a very long time, so I'm not going to argue either way. I've never played vs Manaphy so obviously i cant say much. I'm just glad latios is uber. the thing is insane.

    Thank goodness someone has pointed that out, i was like "so since when is 44/41 decisive. :/"
     

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  • What I really want to know is would Garchomp and Manaphy balance each other out ?

    Garchomp = Sandstorm hax for the omg no counters arguement

    Manaphy = Rain Dance for survivability ?

    Those two would clash each other lol so...balance ?

    Oh and btw, while Sandstorm and Rain Dance are prominent, Id be sitting there with a Sunny Day team >:
     

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    Manaphy was a surprise for me, I honestly expected it to go to Uber...

    The rest was kinda predictable to be honest.
     

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  • As I expected (for the most part) nothing really changed...with a vote that close on Garchomp though...he really should be tested still. That's way too close.

    Manaphy just might cause me some problems though and may overcentralize Rain Dance teams. I sure hope not though as I'd hate to see that. D:
     
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    Garchomp = Sandstorm hax for the omg no counters arguement
    Tbh I don't think sandstorm + Sand Veil + BrightPowder hax is what made some people into thinking it is Uber (but I there could be at least 3 people who thought that I guess X3). 30% is a really small chance. :x Most of the moves used to KO him have either perfect accuracy (Ice Shard, Ice Beam, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Claw, etc) or a very small chance (Draco Meteor, etc), so it won't affect much to them instead of to something like Fire Blast.
     

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  • It wasn't even YacheChomp that bothered me. That goddamn ScarfChomp was such a pain in the ass. Freakin base 102 speed >.<
     
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    It wasn't even YacheChomp that bothered me. That goddamn ScarfChomp was such a pain in the ass. Freakin base 102 speed >.<
    Really, I never had any problems with ScarfChomp. XD Just overpredict it. (b'-')b

    Wow, YacheChomp 2HKOs max HP Metagross after a SD. :o
     

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  • ScarfChomp is a revenge killer, not a sweeper. So I wouldn't say it was the most threatening set.

    Also, I faced a guy yesterday that used a SpecsUrsaring ~_~ What's the most ridiculous set you've seen someone use?
     
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