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The Ultimate OVP: Controversial Topics

Shining Raichu

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  • It really doesn't feel this long ago, but two and a half years ago my friend Gymnotide posted this thread. I've been meaning to re-post it for months but just never quite got there, so tonight is as good a night as any. For those of you who are too young to know this, OVP stands for Other Voting Polls, the old name of this section. Here is a link to the original thread for those of you who are old enough to have posted here last time. You can see how your answers have changed!

    --

    {ITT}: Let's play a game​

    Arrange the following parameters into three groups: support, oppose, and impartial. Don't write anything for each thing, but provide some quick notes at the end if necessary. A copy & paste will be located below.

    I am being as restrictive as possible by giving you only three categories to fill. There are no "sometimes," "yes, but...," or "only if." Just answer.

    To keep this OVP-material, please minimize the discussion; discussion belongs in OC. Don't go about writing explanatory paragraphs. After all, this is a poll--to be blunt, I'm interested in collecting data, not your opinions.

    Some notes, though--

    ____________________​

    • Religion; this is not about whether or not you are religious. Answer whether you believe religion is a positive institution, or you dislike it (you are leaning toward antireligion [read more on Wikipedia]). If you do not care about it or you are secular (keep religion and other things separate), then answer impartial.
    • Spirituality (irreligious only); a spirituality is a belief in forces that supersede human control, but are also deeply involved in human affairs. In other words, a religion is a spirituality that has evolved into mass-practice, whereas a spirituality alone is just the practice. You can be religious and irreligiously spiritual at the same time, such as if you perform certain personal, spiritual rituals outside of your normal faith.
    • Intelligent Design; do you support the idea that a sentient being (not necessarily a god) created the universe as we know it?
    ____________________​

    • Homosexuality; do you believe that homosexuality is morally / biologically / etc. correct?
    • Gay Rights; do you believe that homosexual individuals deserve equal rights (e.g. the right to marry and adopt, job equality, etc.)?
    • Polygamy
    • Censorship
    • Pornography; is pornography a positive institution (economically morally, etc.)?
    • Prostitution; is prostitution a positive institution (economically, morally, etc.)? Should prostitution be legalized?
    • Gambling; how do you feel about people who gamble? Should gambling institutions exist?
    ____________________​

    • Standardized Testing; is standardized testing necessary? Is there too much emphasis on standardized testing?
    • Institutionalized Education; is education a positive institution? I.e., are schools necessary when there is home-schooling? Does the school-to-college system work? Or is it too technical / restrictive?

    • Abortion
    • Euthanasia
    • The Death Penalty
    • Gun Control
    • Corporal Punishment
    ____________________​

    • Evolutionary Theory; "Evolutionary Theory (ET)" differs from "evolution." It is strictly the concept that involves selection processes, methods of evolution, etc. It's answers how evolution occurs, not whether or not it does.
    • Cloning
    • Genetic Engineering
    • Stem Cell Research
    • Animal Experimentation
    • Animal Rights; how do you react to hunting, fur trade, factory farming, overfishing, animal property, etc.?
    • Vegetarianism / Veganism; do you believe that becoming a vegetarian or vegan is beneficial to an individual (not necessarily yourself; whether morally, health-related, or otherwise)?
    ____________________​

    • Marijuana Use
    • Marijuana Legalization
    • Tobacco Use
    • Tobacco Illegalization
    • Alcohol
    • Steroids (non-medical); that is, recreational, as enhancement for sports, appearance, in the pornography scene, etc.

    Copy and paste this list and then sort the items into the three sections below

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Animal Experimentation
    Animal Rights
    Censorship
    Cloning
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gambling
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Intelligent Design
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Religion
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Standardized Testing
    Stem Cell Research
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism

    [h2]I support[/h2]

    [h2]I oppose[/h2]

    [h2]I am impartial to[/h2]

     
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    I support

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Animal Rights
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Gambling
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Religion
    Spirituality
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism

    just some notes

    A lot of these are here for the same reason: I support free will over one's own body. Alcohol consumption, euthanasia, homosexuality, marijuana use, polygamy, pornography, prostitution, steroids, and tobacco use all fall under this principle. Naturally, I do think that there is a certain point where some of these things become incredibly dangerous and life threatening, and at that point I start to differ in my thought process. But a little of these things every now and then is okay in my book.

    Animal rights I support, but only down to the most fundamental belief. We, as living creatures, don't have any right to be in command of any life but our own. I believe domestication, in some ways, is like slavery.

    In regards to homosexuality, I just want to note that I don't think it's biologically natural. Apart from and despite that, I do support it and I don't think that that should be a reason people should be against it.

    Tobacco use is something I support, because of what I said earlier, but I also believe that it has absolutely no positive effects for the body and is foolish and life threatening, no matter how small the amount consumed is.

    Vegetarianism / Veganism is something I greatly respect in people. I believe that we as a society should grow to a point where we no longer eat meat or consume byproducts of animals and we can live independently of each other, but I am someone who consumes it. If I were to meet two people and they were identical in every possible way, with the exception of one of them being a meat-eater and the other a vegan, I would greatly favor the vegan.


    I oppose

    Abortion
    Animal Experimentation
    Censorship
    Intelligent Design
    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Illegalization

    just some notes

    Abortion is on both lists of things that I support and things that I suppose, because I do believe that after the fetus is developed enough, it would be homicide. I'm still ignorant on when life begins, but I feel that after life does begin and the fetus actually begins to feel, then that's the point where abortion is something I don't support.

    I don't support animal experimentation because I feel that we are developed enough to consider other options, but I understand why it's beneficial, and I would rather it be animal experimentation than human experimentation. Still, I don't believe it's at all the moral thing to do.

    If you know anything about me, you know that I'm against censorship. Just the act of censoring a curse word angers me.

    I am against standardized testing, simply because I believe there is other ways of measuring ones' intelligence than having them recall facts taught to them earlier on. I'm at a point in my life where I question intelligence as a whole because, at least in school settings, its often measured in your ability to regurgitate things said to you rather than actually being well educated in a particular matter.

    Because I support free will over one's own body, I am opposed to tobacco illegalization.


    I am impartial to

    Cloning
    Corporal Punishment
    Evolution theory
    Stem Cell Research

    just some notes

    These are just things that I don't care about one way or the other.
     
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    Beyond Infinity

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  • This is where I reveal my radical pro-arming squirrels and anti-anyone with an even number of legs views.

    I support

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Animal Rights
    Censorship
    Cloning
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Religion
    Stem Cell Research
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Gun Control

    I oppose

    Corporal Punishment
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Polygamy
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Use

    I am impartial to

    Animal Experimentation
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gambling
    Intelligent Design
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Standardized Testing
    Vegetarianism / Veganism


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    I realise I am impartial to quite a lot. It doesn't mean I don't have an opinion, but that my opinion goes both ways. For example, I fully support gay rights, no two ways about it, whereas for something like animal testing, I support it for serious medical drugs but not for cosmetics. I use pornography and have no problem with it, yet it's not what I consider moral.

    I'm not on the fence for most issues, I'm in both gardens.
     
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    I support

    Animal Rights
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay Rights
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Intelligent Design
    Prostitution
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Standardized Testing
    Stem Cell Research
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I oppose

    Abortion
    Censorship
    Corporal Punishment
    Cloning
    The Death Penalty
    Polygamy
    Tobacco Use

    I am impartial to

    Alcohol
    Animal Experimentation
    Euthanasia
    Gambling
    Genetic Engineering
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
    Pornography
    Religion
    Steroids (non-medical)

    Mostly did this as an exercise to see how I feel about the issues, surprised myself a little! And like above, using 'impartial' as "both agree and disagree".
     

    Nihilego

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  • I love these threads. 8)

    I support

    Alcohol
    Animal Experimentation
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gambling
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Intelligent Design
    Religion
    Standardized Testing
    Stem Cell Research
    Tobacco Use

    I oppose

    Abortion
    Censorship
    Cloning
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Marijuana Legalization
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I am impartial to

    Animal Rights
    Marijuana Use
    Prostitution
    Spirituality
    Steroids
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     
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  • A lot of these were difficult for me to decide on because of political views and religious beliefs, but here goes..

    I support

    Animal Rights
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Gambling
    Gay Rights
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Stem Cell Research

    I oppose

    Animal Experimentation
    Censorship
    Cloning
    Intelligent Design
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Polygamy
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I am impartial to

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Religion
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     

    Crunch Punch

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  • I support

    Animal Rights
    Gay Rights
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Marijuana Legalization
    Pornography
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Religion
    Stem Cell Research

    I oppose

    Abortion
    Censorship
    Cloning
    Corporal Punishment
    Genetic Engineering
    Institutionalized Education
    Polygamy
    Prostitution
    Steroids (non-medical)

    I am impartial to

    Alcohol
    Marijuana Use
    Animal Experimentation
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
    Gambling
    Standardized Testing


    Not surprisingly the most answers out of the three categories is on the impartial one.
     
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    Something I'd thought of remaking myself on occasion, but I didn't have the foresight to note the OP anywhere, only the items to be placed.


    I support

    Euthanasia (with undergoer's consent only)
    Marijuana Legalization
    Polygamy

    I oppose

    Censorship
    Gun Control
    Institutionalized Education
    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I am impartial to

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Animal Experimentation
    Animal Rights
    Cloning
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gambling
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Homosexuality
    Intelligent Design
    Marijuana Use
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Religion (opposed to proselytism)
    Spirituality
    Stem Cell Research
    Steroids
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     
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  • I support

    Abortion
    Animal Experimentation
    Cloning
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Institutionalized Education
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Stem Cell Research

    I oppose

    Animal Rights
    Corporal Punishment
    Intelligent Design
    Marijuana Use
    Religion
    Tobacco Use

    I am impartial to

    Alcohol
    Censorship
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Gambling
    Homosexuality
    Marijuana Legalization
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Standardized Testing
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     

    Princess Sandshrew

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  • I support

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Animal Experimentation
    Animal Rights
    Cloning
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gambling
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Homosexuality
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Religion
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Stem Cell Research
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Use

    I oppose

    Censorship
    Gun Control
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I am impartial to

    Corporal Punishment
    Institutionalized Education
    Intelligent Design
    Standardized Testing
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     
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  • In the spirit of not qualifying my answers, I went with my immediate gut feeling on these.

    I hope we can get some statistics on these after a while to see how things compare.

    I support

    Abortion
    Animal Rights
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay Rights
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Pornography
    Stem Cell Research
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Vegetarianism / Veganism

    I oppose

    Alcohol
    Animal Experimentation
    Censorship
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Intelligent Design
    Religion
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Use

    I am impartial to

    Cloning
    Genetic Engineering
    Gambling
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Polygamy
    Prostitution
    Standardized Testing
     

    «Chuckles»

    Sharky
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    I support

    Animal Rights
    Cloning
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Genetic Engineering
    Spirituality
    Intelligent Design
    Stem Cell Research
    Vegetarianism / Veganism

    I oppose

    Institutionalized Education
    Prostitution
    Religion
    Standardized Testing
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Tobacco Use
    Abortion
    Alcohol


    I am impartial to

    Animal Experimentation
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gambling
    Gay Rights
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Polygamy
    Pornography
     
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    Controversial?

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    I support

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Animal Rights
    Cloning
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalised Education
    Intelligent Design
    Marijuana Legalisation
    Marijuana Use
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Spirituality
    Stem Cell Research
    Steroids (non-medical)

    I oppose

    Censorship
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Standardised Testing
    Tobacco Illegalisation

    I am impartial to

    Animal Experimentation
    Gambling
    Religion
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism/Veganism

    wooooooo i'm a hypocrite
     

    Shining Raichu

    Expect me like you expect Jesus.
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  • Scarf said:
    I hope we can get some statistics on these after a while to see how things compare.

    This is actually a great idea, I think I'll go through the thread and collect all the data when the thread is starting to die out :)

    OK now for my own answers!

    I support

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Animal Rights
    Cloning
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Marijuana Legalization
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Stem Cell Research

    I oppose

    Animal Experimentation
    Censorship
    Intelligent Design
    Religion
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I am impartial to

    Corporal Punishment
    Gambling
    Marijuana Use
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     
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  • I support

    Abortion
    Corporal Punishment *depends on severity
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Institutionalized Education
    Intelligent Design
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Standardized Testing

    I oppose

    Alcohol
    Animal Experimentation
    Censorship
    Corporal Punishment *depends on severity
    Polygamy
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Use

    I am impartial to

    Animal Rights
    Cloning
    Gambling
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Religion
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Stem Cell Research
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     

    Mystify

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    I support

    Abortion
    Animal Rights
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay Rights
    Homosexuality
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Stem Cell Research
    Vegetarianism / Veganism

    I oppose

    Animal Experimentation
    Censorship
    Corporal Punishment
    Institutionalized Education
    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I am impartial to

    Alcohol
    Cloning
    The Death Penalty
    Gambling
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Intelligent Design
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Religion
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Use
     

    antemortem

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  • I'm indifferent to quite a lot more than I thought I'd be.

    I support...

    Alcohol
    Animal rights
    The Death Penalty
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gay rights
    Homosexuality
    Gun control
    Prostitution
    Stem Cell Research
    Tobacco Use
    Vegetarianism / Veganism

    I do not support...

    Abortion
    Animal Experimentation
    Censorship
    Euthanasia
    Intelligent Design
    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Illegalization
    Steroids (non-medical)

    I am indifferent to...

    Cloning
    Corporal Punishment
    Gambling
    Genetic Engineering
    Institutionalized Education
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijauana Use
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Religion
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
     
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    Ozymandias

    i'm going on a journey
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  • I support

    Animal Experimentation
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty
    Euthanasia
    Gay Rights
    Institutionalized Education
    Religion
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Illegalization

    I oppose

    Abortion
    Evolutionary Theory
    Gun Control (depends on what kind... gotta keep my hunting rifles ;D)
    Polygamy
    Prostitution
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Tobacco Use

    I am impartial to

    Alcohol
    Animal Rights
    Censorship
    Cloning
    Gambling
    Genetic Engineering
    Homosexuality
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Pornography
    Stem Cell Research
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
     
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  • I support

    Abortion
    Alcohol
    Stem Cell Research
    Spirituality (irreligious only)
    Marijuana Legalization
    Marijuana Use
    Gay Rights
    Genetic Engineering
    Gun Control
    Homosexuality
    Euthanasia
    Evolutionary Theory
    Animal Rights
    Cloning



    I oppose

    Standardized Testing
    Tobacco Use
    Steroids (non-medical)
    Intelligent Design (It's not real lol)
    Corporal Punishment
    The Death Penalty


    I am impartial to

    Tobacco Illegalization
    Vegetarianism / Veganism
    Polygamy
    Pornography
    Prostitution
    Religion
    Institutionalized Education
    Gambling
    Censorship
    Animal Experimentation
     

    Melody

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  • I support

    Indifferent to exceptions
    Evolutionary Theory - Life wasn't created in a day within our space-time frame of reference.
    Gambling - Taxation for Government Income.
    Gay Rights - Everyone deserves to be happily married.
    Gun Control - Because some people shouldn't be allowed near lethal weapons.
    Homosexuality - You are who you are. You love who you love.
    Institutionalized Education - Needs improvements!
    Intelligent Design - But that doesn't mean Life didn't get some help from some higher powers.
    Marijuana Legalization - Taxation for Government Income
    Spirituality (irreligious only) - Is the best thing for a well balanced person to practice.
    Stem Cell Research - Has potential to do great things if done responsibly with respect to life.

    I oppose

    Indifferent to exceptions
    Abortion - Some exceptions to this rule: Rape, Severe Health danger to mother and/or child during and/or after birth.
    Animal Experimentation - Falls under Animal Rights, Treat animals humanely please.
    Censorship - Truth is seldom comfortable for all.
    Corporal Punishment - Cruel and unusual punishment not necessary.
    The Death Penalty - Except in cases where offender has repeatedly murdered/raped with no remorse. (In the First Degree, which means "With intent to commit" crime)
    Standardized Testing - Should only measure a student's aptitude and what has been learned so that educational programs can be corrected/improved upon.

    I am impartial to

    Oppose exceptions, except where specified
    Alcohol - I won't drink it. Should be consumed with moderation.
    Animal Rights - BASIC Humane Treatment Only. (Food/Water/Happiness/Shelter/Not being abused)
    Cloning - Useful if done responsibly.
    Euthanasia - Only humane methods which are painless, when invoked as a final wish (last will, specified before illness) when person is no longer able to make decisions.
    Genetic Engineering - Useful if done responsibly.
    Marijuana Use - Useful if done responsibly.
    Polygamy - If done responsibly and with consent of all parties.
    Pornography - If done responsibly and with consent of all parties. Must not contain those not legally able to consent to sex.
    Prostitution - If done responsibly and with consent of all parties.
    Religion - Useful if practiced responsibly and reasonably.
    Steroids (non-medical) - Useful if used responsibly and under the guidance of medical professionals.
    Tobacco Use - Should be consumed with moderation, and respect for others in the surrounding area.
    Tobacco Illegalization - Is up to the local governing bodies.
    Vegetarianism / Veganism - Is great. Not something I would willingly practice without medical reasons, but is harmless. (Indifferent to exceptions)
     
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