5th Gen Third Game Speculation

[Ho-Oh]

Well, the user said there won't be animations because of the third games, so I assumed so. XD I was pretty sure the sprites changed, though. I think the pixelated back sprites will be fixed in the third game, since originally that was a big complaint.

 

[Koh]

I'm positive it'll go along the basic rules:

-Alternate Trainer outfits.
-Third Legendary Pokemon that ties in with the other two somehow.
-Version exclusive Pokemon not found in Black or White.
-Some new feature that wasn't in Black or White.
-A few microscopic storyline changes.

 

[fenyx4]

I thought the previous third games did have new anitamtions... Oh well, I am sure it will happen with B/W too, along with a bunch of new sprites. I doubt all the pokemon will get new animations, just some, same with the sprites. I think they will do it for a little bit of change when battling pokemon. Seeing new animations in games makes a little difference in terms of exceitement and interest.

Hmm...I'd actually be willing to forego new Pokemon sprites+animations, if stuff like the Follow-Me feature, Apricorn Balls, PokeBall seals, Pokemon Contests/Pokeathlon, could be added instead (I'd kinda like Trainer animations, though). But mainly the first three features I listed...

(On second thought, I would like it if the animations of Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza could be edited so that their markings glow)

 

[Shuckle>You]

Hmm...I'd actually be willing to forego new Pokemon sprites+animations, if stuff like the Follow-Me feature, Apricorn Balls, PokeBall seals, Pokemon Contests/Pokeathlon, could be added instead (I'd kinda like Trainer animations, though). But mainly the first three features I listed...

(On second thought, I would like it if the animations of Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza could be edited so that their markings glow)

The Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza idea is good :) That would be pretty awesome I reckon, nice thinking ;)

 

[Guy]

I'm positive it'll go along the basic rules:

-Alternate Trainer outfits.
-Third Legendary Pokemon that ties in with the other two somehow.
-Version exclusive Pokemon not found in Black or White.
-Some new feature that wasn't in Black or White.
-A few microscopic storyline changes.

This, and a few extra additions; I think you just struck gold.

 

[Evilade]

Aren't Kyuremu, Reshiram and Zekrom all Dragon types? And Kyuremu's colouring would also help the Pokemon Grey name theory, given that the mascots for Pokemon Black and White, are Black and White in colour.

 

[yuki1406]

I found a small theory on the internet that could give an idea.

Spoiler:

According to Shaga and Iris, Reshiram and Zekrom were originally one dragon who served two twin brothers and helped them lead their nation to peace and prosperity. With time, however, the brothers began to fight with one another over whose beliefs were correct: the older brother sought truth, while the younger sought ideals. The original dragon split into two: Reshiram, the white dragon of truth, and Zekrom, the black dragon of ideals. Eventually, though, they realized that both of them could be correct and stopped the fighting for a time. However, their sons rekindled the conflict again, and Reshiram and Zekrom destroyed Isshu before disappearing.

Now, onto how this relates to Kyurem. You may have noticed that it appears to be "broken"; its wings are cracked, one is smaller than the other, and its body appears frail. In addition, its base stat total is lower than Reshiram and Zekrom's; 660 compared to their 680. And, finally, unlike them, it doesn't learn an attack at level 100; however, there are two unused attacks in the game, called Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt, that appear to be intended for Kyurem and relate to Reshiram and Zekrom.

My theory is that Kyurem is the broken remnants of that original dragon that split into Reshiram and Zekrom. In the third version, it will receive a new form, much like Giratina did in Platinum, which will increase its base stat total and allow it to learn Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt. One thing that struck me about Kyurem is its species name: it's the Feelings Pokemon, which seemed utterly random at first. But now I realize that it's intended to symbolize the feelings that the two brothers held for each other.

So, here's what the game's finale would be like. N succeeds in awakening both Reshiram and Zekrom and takes them for himself. All hope seems lost, but Shaga and Iris reveal the existence of a third dragon that N doesn't know about: Kyurem. You eventually receive the God Stone (which is an unused item in Black/White; pretty clear that it's intended to be used in the third version) and go to the Pokemon League. There, you find that N has defeated Adeku and is on the brink of using his dragons' power to create his black and white world, dividing humanity and Pokemon.

The player confronts N, and the God Stone activates, awakening Kyurem. N is shocked at first, but then he realizes that it's only a remnant and he wonders if these faded feelings can possibly defeat truth and ideals. Cue...uh, something happening, and Kyurem somehow transforms into its true form. You fight a double battle against Reshiram and Zekrom and the rest of N's team, you fight Geechisu, blah blah blah, N releases the dragons for you to capture later, happy ending and stuff.

I don't like this theory much, but I have to recognize it makes some sense.

What if Kyurem could use 'Cold Flare' only against Reshiram and 'Freezing Bolt' only against Zekrom? Maybe it could be a special attack that will only work when he holds God Orb (I'd prefer it was called Tao Orb or something like that). Cold Flare/Freezing Bolt could cause damage and reduce Resh/Zek power... That'd allow him to fight'em both.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

It's also possible that the mascot could be the combo of Zek and Rash...but I think Kyurem is more likely...

 

[Ravecat]

Hurt frame, attacking frame, sp. attacking frame, and Follow Me, and I'm set.

 

[fenyx4]

I don't like this theory much, but I have to recognize it makes some sense.

What if Kyurem could use 'Cold Flare' only against Reshiram and 'Freezing Bolt' only against Zekrom? Maybe it could be a special attack that will only work when he holds God Orb (I'd prefer it was called Tao Orb or something like that). Cold Flare/Freezing Bolt could cause damage and reduce Resh/Zek power... That'd allow him to fight'em both.

I really hope Kyuremu's purported signature moves aren't restricted like Cross Flame and Cross Thunder are. Ick. :disappoin I'd prefer to use Cold Flare instead as a general Ice-type special attacking move instead of only being able to use it under certain conditions...

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

I think the third verision towns will look like a mix of nature and urban setting where in Black it was city and in white it was nature.

 

[revlis]

I think the third verision towns will look like a mix of nature and urban setting where in Black it was city and in white it was nature.

So for example, people living in tree houses?

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

So for example, people living in tree houses?

No not like fortree more like that second town in Johto, it will have lots of flowers but also be urban at the same time

 

[revlis]

No not like fortree more like that second town in Johto, it will have lots of flowers but also be urban at the same time

maybe rural town-ish?
But then isn't that like many towns? a mixture of civilization and technology?

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

maybe rural town-ish?
But then isn't that like many towns? a mixture of civilization and technology?

I guess it is, but it would make Fortree less rare if they made lots of towns like it...maybe a town with modern buildings but with plants growing on top of them that make them look enviormentally friendly? I have seen real life buildings like that before they could do that :)

 

[BrainWave]

My guess on the pokemon mascot is the same as everyone else.

As for the game name, however, if not grey, I was thinking either prism version or transparent.
For prism, it refers to how white light is split into different colours. Using Kyurem's ice body as a triangular glass or sort, it can split white light? And that's where it can change forme?
For transparent, well, ice can be transparent, where it allows light to pass through it.

For plot change, maybe we can have a further backstory on N. Like when he used to have a twin brother, though they have different ideals.
Also, for this version N could catch either reshiram or zekrom, but not both. Instead of getting the other legendary, the player would get kyurem instead. And it can have 2 new formes, though it'll use one.
After the story, the player can catch the last of the ele-dragon trio. Assuming a battle frontier is there, N can be found there afterwards. In addition to rematches, you can interchange pokemon with N by trading reshiram and zekrom.

Oh, and maybe zorua is obtainable in the third version too without any aid of events.

 

[BleuVII]

So, I finally made it through the Electric Cave last night, and came across an interesting line from N, relating to the titles.

Now, my Japanese is rudimentary at best, but he definitely said this at one point:

Spoiler:

He said that world was becoming gray, and that he was going to use the legendary pokemon to get it back to black and white.

Is that a hint to the title of the third game? I'll let you guys decide.

 

[Ho-Oh]

...wow. I'm amazed noone else mentioned this, really. If that's not a hint, I don't know what is.

So... Grey? D: The game names are going to be confu--assuming this hint is actually a hint :x

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

So, I finally made it through the Electric Cave last night, and came across an interesting line from N, relating to the titles.

Now, my Japanese is rudimentary at best, but he definitely said this at one point:

Spoiler:

He said that world was becoming gray, and that he was going to use the legendary pokemon to get it back to black and white.

Is that a hint to the title of the third game? I'll let you guys decide.

Haha it possibly is, So the third version will be about us making sure the keeping of the world Grey opposed to N who turned it White in White and Black in Black also that makes me think that he won't get either legend in the third version like he did in B and W

 

[fenyx4]

So, I finally made it through the Electric Cave last night, and came across an interesting line from N, relating to the titles.

Now, my Japanese is rudimentary at best, but he definitely said this at one point:

Spoiler:

He said that world was becoming gray, and that he was going to use the legendary pokemon to get it back to black and white.

Is that a hint to the title of the third game? I'll let you guys decide.

Nice find! I think it's a credible hint...although I'd still like the third version to be titled Pokemon Crimson Version to avoid the title most fans expect, and to reference the phrase "What's black and white and "red" all over?" :D

I was also hoping that in the third version, the screen turns monochrome/black-and-white to highlight the yin-yang theme and act as a throwback to the Generation I games, where one's Pokemon journey literally started out in black-and-white. :)

(additionally, at this rate, the third version is going to have to be chock full with a better offering of move tutors than BW...!)