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[machomuu]

Just...random question. Darknuts, where do you think they'd fit in the game? I'd always assumed they'd be late/endgame enemies, considering their strength.

I would hope late, because as appropriate as they would be for the endgame, I don't think I could resist the chance to have one on my team :q

 

[Danno]

Just...random question. Darknuts, where do you think they'd fit in the game? I'd always assumed they'd be late/endgame enemies, considering their strength.

I would hope late, because as appropriate as they would be for the endgame, I don't think I could resist the chance to have one on my team :q

Yeah it'd probably be one of the much later enemies... gotta get through the normal enemies before the miniboss types :D

I'll just leave this here:

 

[Logan]

I've never played Zelda but this looks amaaaazing.

 

[U.Flame]

The octorok style is certainly a good question. It really depends on how many forms you can make with them. With the Ocarina one, there's the giant version, the Jabu Jabu's Belly mini boss version, and...were there more? With the other kind, there's the stronger blue one (or can that be its shiny?) and the golden one. There was also that one Minish Cap boss. Are there others? At the shiny subject, shouldn't the Ocarina octorok's shiny be the bluish purple one from the archery games? Just a thought.

While I'm doing this whole thinking thing, Chu Chus came to mind. Use the Wind Waker/Minish Cap design! They're so cute! There are so many variations, and we can mess with evolution however right? I was thinking the red and green kinds are both the base. Different creatures that evolve into the same thing? That can work right? They could evolve into the blue kind normally but also into the yellow or purple with different methods. (this game's version of evolution items?)

 

[Danno]

Well maybe this can be your first Zelda game then haha :D

I'm getting a little behind with the backsprites, but here's some ChuChus:

Basic Electric types

While I'm doing this whole thinking thing, Chu Chus came to mind. Use the Wind Waker/Minish Cap design! They're so cute! There are so many variations, and we can mess with evolution however right? I was thinking the red and green kinds are both the base. Different creatures that evolve into the same thing? That can work right? They could evolve into the blue kind normally but also into the yellow or purple with different methods. (this game's version of evolution items?)

Whoah you totally just posted at the same time as I just put those up... what a strange coincidence hahaha. And yeah, that could work :D That's a good idea for some of the other multicolored creatures too. Or...

...they can evolve into these:

Spoiler:

And about the Octorok, even though it was the first sprite I made, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna ditch the OOT design at least for right now.

 

[DJTiki]

Omg that scared me xD such an ugly face, but that should be its evolution. I'm wondering if you are going to have the Skyward Sword variants of ChuChu's(even though they aren't called that). Also Stalfos would be awesome if it'd evolved into Stalmaster(if it gets in). This game is looking so good so far o.o

 

[Danno]

Omg that scared me xD such an ugly face, but that should be its evolution. I'm wondering if you are going to have the Skyward Sword variants of ChuChu's(even though they aren't called that). Also Stalfos would be awesome if it'd evolved into Stalmaster(if it gets in). This game is looking so good so far o.o

Might as well have that version of the ChuChus, but they won't behave like the ones in Skyward Sword, they'd remain as electric types. And yeah maybe with the Stalmasters later in the game :D


EDIT:

'Chu Jelly?

 

[Dxys]

Might as well have that version of the ChuChus, but they won't behave like the ones in Skyward Sword, they'd remain as electric types. And yeah maybe with the Stalmasters later in the game :D


EDIT:

'Chu Jelly?

Looks like the "LOLWUT" Pear. ;P though those are some beautifully crafted sprites

 

[GoldfishHorde]

Woah, I missed a lot of things, didn't I?

For the Octoroks, I think it would work if the basic ones evolved into the OoT ones, or just have either one of them stand alone or evolve into a different kind of Octorok. It is your game, after all.

Loving them Chu Chus. Basic Electric types? That works well! And which one is shiny? I'm assuming the red one?

 

[Danno]

Looks like the "LOLWUT" Pear. ;P though those are some beautifully crafted sprites

So name yours LOLWUT when the game comes out haha

Woah, I missed a lot of things, didn't I?

For the Octoroks, I think it would work if the basic ones evolved into the OoT ones, or just have either one of them stand alone or evolve into a different kind of Octorok. It is your game, after all.

Loving them Chu Chus. Basic Electric types? That works well! And which one is shiny? I'm assuming the red one?

Yeah you missed a few things... and the red and blue ones are probably shinies unless I make them seperate enemies or something. I'd only need to do that if I was low on enemy ideas though haha.

Also, here guys, have a support bar. (or don't, whatever :D )

[URL="http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=331358"][img]http://oi60.tinypic.com/29yp9g0.jpg[/img][/URL]

 

[U.Flame]

I don't know how you'll handle items, but I think the Chu Chus' colors should be seperate enemies so they can drop (or hold, however it'll work) their respective items. Be it the different chu jelly, or the heart/magic depending on which variation.

 

[Danno]

I don't know how you'll handle items, but I think the Chu Chus' colors should be seperate enemies so they can drop (or hold, however it'll work) their respective items. Be it the different chu jelly, or the heart/magic depending on which variation.

I wouldnt begin to know how to do item drops, but I wouldnt count on there being all sorts of colors of the same enemy just yet. I may decide on that down the line, but as ive stated before I'm by no means a coder/scripter and I intend on leaving shinies in the game which will most likely serve as the only alternate colors for most creatures except the ones where it would really make a difference, like with poes, and even then the alternate colored poes should also have different base stats and some variation in their moveset.

 

[U.Flame]

At the very least, they can be held items. Red Chu Chus hold red chu jelly, etc.

 

[Danno]

At the very least, they can be held items. Red Chu Chus hold red chu jelly, etc.

Except there may be no distinction between colors as they'd be the shiny versions, potentially. Not sure about this yet.

EDIT: On second thought, here's how I'll do it. I'll need a total of 9 creatures to be taken up by this.
From weakest to strongest:
Green ChuChu Family: Holds Max Ether
Red ChuChu Family: Holds Max Potion
Yellow ChuChu Family(Rare): Holds Max Revive
Of course the names will be changed, but I'm not going to call it Chu Jelly because I'm reserving that as one of the monster names. Think more along the lines of in Majoras Mask where these guys

Have hearts or magic bottles in them.

As a side note, I tweaked these guys to be smaller and look more true to their 3D counterparts:

And I've begun work on these:

I'm also adding this to the first post. It's a list of all the items in FRLG but with notes on whether or not it'll be used and what the new names will be. (?) means I don't know yet, and (-------) means I'm leaving it out of the game.

Spoiler:

HEALTH RECOVERY
Potion (Small Heart)
Super Potion (Heart)
Hyper Potion (Large Heart)
Max Potion (Full Heart)
Full Restore(Mushroom)
Fresh Water (Fresh Water)
Soda Pop (---------)
Lemonade (---------)
Moo Moo Milk (Lon Lon Milk)
Energy Root (?)
Energy Powder (?)
Berry Juice (?)
Sacred Ash (HeartContainer)

RECOVERY
Ether (Sm.MagicJar)
Max Ether (MagicJar)
Elixir (Same)
Max Elixir (Same)
Revival Herb (Same)
Revive (----------)
Max Revive(Fairy)

STATUS RECOVERY:
Antidote (Same)
Awakening (Same)
Burn Heal (Same)
Ice Heal (Same)
Paralyz Heal (Same)
Full Heal (Deku Food)
Lava Cookie (Goron Food)
Heal Powder (Zora Food)

ABILITY ENHANCERS:
Calcium (?)
Carbos (?)
HP Up (?)
Iron (?)
PP Max (?)
PP Up (lol)
Protein (?)
Rare Candy (?)
Zinc (?)

BATTLE ENHANCERS:
Dire Hit (?)
Guard Spec (?)
X Accuracy (?)
X Attack (?)
X Defend (?)
X Special (?)
X Speed (?)

HOLD ITEMS:
Amulet Coin (?)
Black Belt (?)
Blackglasses (?)
Bright Powder (?)
Charcoal (?)
Choice Band (?)
Cleanse Tag (?)
Deepseascale (-------)
Deepseatooth (-------)
Dragon Fang (?)
Dragon Scale (-------)
Everstone (?)
Exp Share (?)
Focus Band (?)
Hard Stone (Goron's Rock)
King's Rock)
Lax Incense (-------)
Leftovers (?)
Light Ball (-------)
Lucky Egg (Windfish Egg)
Lucky Punch (-------)
Macho Brace (?)
Magnet (Same)
Mental Herb (?)
Metal Coat (?)
Metal Powder (-------)
Miracle Seed (Deku Seed)
Mystic Water (Zora Charm)
Nevermeltice (?)
Poison Barb (?)
Quick Claw (?)
Scope Lens (?)
Sea Incense (?)
Sharp Beak (?)
Shell Bell (-------)
Silk Scarf (?)
Silverpowder (?)
Smoke Ball (?)
Soft Sand (?)
Soothe Bell (?)
Soul Dew (-------)
Spell Tag (?)
Stick (-------)
Thick Club (-------)
Twisted Spoon (?)
White Herb (?)

CONTEST SCARFS
None. No need.

MISC:
Black Flute (?)
Blue Flute (?)
Red Flute (?)
White Flute (?)
Yellow Flute (?)
((These gave me an idea that I wouldn't know how to implement with ocarina songs for warping....))

EVOLUTION STONES:
Moon Stone (Moon Tear?)
Fire Stone (?)
Leaf Stone (?)
Thunderstone (?)
Sun Stone (?)
Water Stone (?)
Upgrade (-------)

SHARDS:
Maybe they can be replaced with dungeon keys, I dunno.

OTHER:
Escape Rope (?)
Fluffy Tail (Deku Nut)
Pokedoll (Yoshi Doll? Link's Awakening anyone?)
Shoal Salt (-------)
Shoal Shell (-------)
Repel (?)
Max Repel (?)
Super Repel (?)

ORNAMENTALS(Sell for Money)
Big Pearl (?)
Big Mushroom (?)
Heart Scale (?)
Nuggest (?)
Pearl (?)
Star Piece (?)
Stardust (?)
Tinymushroom (?)

POKEBALLS: As a rule, items are limited to 12 characters. Calling them a 'crystal' takes up 8, because of the necessary space, leaving room for only 4 more characters. That's why I'm thinking of just calling them orbs.
Pokeball (Faded Orb)
Great Ball (Weak Orb)
Ultra Ball (Great Orb)
Master Ball (Farore's Orb)
Dive Ball (-------)
Luxury Ball (Lon Lon Orb)
Nest Ball (Nest Orb)
Net Ball (Net Orb)
Premier Pall (?)
Repeat Ball (Repeat Orb)
Safari Ball (?)
Timer Ball (?)

MAIL:
No.

KEY ITEMS:
Aurora Ticket: (?)
Berry Bag: (Seed Satchel?)
Bike: (Epona)
Bike Voucher: (-------)
Card Key: (?)
Coin Case: (-------)
Dome Fossil: (?)
Fame Checker: (Either unused or Bombers Notebook. Will probably not be used though.)
Gold Teeth: (?)
Good Rod: (?)
Helix Fossil (?)
Itemfinder (-------)
Lift Key (?)
Meteorite (?)
Mystery Ticket (?)
Oak's Parcel (?)
Old Amber (?)
Old Rod (?)
Pokeflute (If I can get songs working instead of fly, Ocarina)
Powder Jar: (?)
Rainbow Pass (?)
Ruby (?)
Sapphire (?)
Secret Key (?)
Silph Scope (?)
SS Ticket (?)
Super Rod (?)
Tea (?)
Teachy TV (-------)
Tri Pass (?)
Vs Seeker (?)

NOTE: I explained above why I think the pokeball crystals need to be changed to orbs.


And another thing to note... I think when it comes to overoworld revamping, in the GBC games everyone has 2 frames, and most people don't move. Only a select few do. I think maybe to stay more true to that style and only fully animate a few characters.(ones that would require walking)







.....and then there's this.

 

[U.Flame]

So the Deku's evolution is them longer-headed Deku whatsits? Then shouldn't the first form more accurately be called a Deku Scrub? Scrubs are the young ones I believe.

 

[Danno]

So the Deku's evolution is them longer-headed Deku whatsits? Then shouldn't the first form more accurately be called a Deku Scrub? Scrubs are the young ones I believe.

http://zeldawiki.org/Deku_Scrub

All Dekus are considered Deku Scrubs. I'm taking some liberties with names because a lot of the monsters will be the same name from different games and different looks. And they're 2 different things, have you played Majora's Mask? Third Evo is Deku King. :P

Here's a gif of the bike/horse:

Spoiler:

 

[U.Flame]

Ah right. So what're you naming the middle evolution?

 

[Danno]

Ah right. So what're you naming the middle evolution?

I'm thinking Deku Guard. Not entirely sure though, open to suggestions!

 

[pastel_fallout]

Ooh! Can't wait for this! It seems awesome!

 

[U.Flame]

There's always the generic Deku Scrub. Deku guards are thicker, so this more general scrubby isn't it?