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5th Gen Charizard-like Pokémon in Gen V?

PokéToast

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    Charizard-like Pokémon in Gen V?


    Just a play with humor, but really... is anyone else scared that B/W is seeming to turn into a form of Digimon?
     

    lx_theo

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    The more realistic looking detail you add to a Pokemon, the less it feels like a Pokemon.
     

    PiPVoda

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    lx_theo: couldn't have said it any better! Though I fail to see the 'realism' in Zekrom and Reshiram.

    Poster, I don't think they resemble digimon as much now as I did when I first laid eyes on them. Actually I'd say they pass Dialga/Palkia and maybe even Kyogre/Groudon in looks. **possibly even lugia/ho-oh but I don't wanna upset the j-lovers tonight^^**
     

    lx_theo

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    Picture as reference for me and others:
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    @PiPVoda

    How do I phrase this... The best way I can think of is comparing two similar legendaries, Lugia and Reshiram. Lugia exemplifies a more simple beauty to the designs that has become more of a Pokemon feel. The difference is two thing primarily. Cartoonishness (real word?) and the detail of the details. A traditional Pokemon feeling Pokemon tends to have a more cartoonish look to it, these are slightly more, as I'd call it, matured in that sense of design. What contributes to that is the the detail in the detail. A small addition of detail all around can add a more realistic look, like instead of just looking liked the feathers on Reshiram are implied by the design, like on Lugia, it actually looks like it has feathers throughout it.

    At least that's how I see it. Its not a bad thing, though.
     

    Elise

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    I think there are a few elements of digimon if you are actually looking for them. I honestly didn't even think of it until other people mentioned it. I think the designs are pretty nifty actually and just like every new legendary, it's going to look odd until we've gotten used to them.
     

    RedBaron474

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    I agree with lx_theo in the fact that when you add more detail they look less pokemon like and more digimon-ish. They have in fact tried to put more and more detail into the pokemon (particularly legendary pokemon) each generation and in my opininion strayed rather far from the original.

    Heres a little something to show how they've put more detail into pokemon throughout the generations:

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    dieter57

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    i don't see digimon in them at all. i see two awesomely pwning legends in what i expect to be the sweetest pokemon games so far!
     
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    I personally love the fact that they have a lot of detail. It makes them look more intimidating, which is how powerful legendaries should look. It may not have the same "feel", but did you expect Ken Sugimori to stick with the same style? I just like them, and I don't pay attention to Digimon, so I don't care if they look like 'em. Basically what dieter57 said.
     

    lx_theo

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    i don't see digimon in them at all. i see two awesomely pwning legends in what i expect to be the sweetest pokemon games so far!

    I thinks its more of a leaving from the Pokemon feel than more like Digimon. Thats probably just the next closest people could associate it with. How much it does is more closely associated with whether you take your personal opinion and feel of a Pokemon feel from earlier or later generations.
     

    Kieran

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    I've never think the new ones look even like Digimon, in fact, I really like the fact there are more and more Pokemons, and I really love how they turn'ed out!
     

    Roxas358

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    I think there are a few elements of digimon if you are actually looking for them. I honestly didn't even think of it until other people mentioned it. I think the designs are pretty nifty actually and just like every new legendary, it's going to look odd until we've gotten used to them.

    The part I emphasized in tha quote is completely true. It took me months to get used to all the new Pokemon (and everything else) from Diamond and Pearl, so naturally it'll happen in Black and White too.
     

    Esmas

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    Well I'd say Reshiram looks more Digimon-like to me, as its face seems to resemble Greymon in my opinion. Zekrom looks perfectly great. But then again, the previous generation's legendaries were even more 'realistic', or whatever. I think it's just the art style that makes it look more real, as it's beginning to become more 3D-ish.
     

    Bloothump

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    I agree that the new pokemon are closer to digimon than first gen, but really, I don't think the simplistic design of the original pokemon could survive today.

    @lx_theo,
    What you're saying is not entirely correct. I have to say, pidgey looks a lot kore realistic than Swablu. I beleive the more complicated the designs get, the more they are associated with digimon. I still love the designs, no matter what. They truly look like fantastical, legendary creatures.
     

    lx_theo

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    I agree that the new pokemon are closer to digimon than first gen, but really, I don't think the simplistic design of the original pokemon could survive today.

    @lx_theo,
    What you're saying is not entirely correct. I have to say, pidgey looks a lot kore realistic than Swablu. I beleive the more complicated the designs get, the more they are associated with digimon. I still love the designs, no matter what. They truly look like fantastical, legendary creatures.

    The difference is that the design was realistic, not the details. It was a cartoon bird based almost directly off of a real bird. But it looked cartoonish. Its not fair to compare the newer ones, becasue unlike the first gens, they take a simple cartoonish first form and make the later forms that detail realism I've been talking about. They used to simply take the earlier form designs while keeping the cartoonishness and build on it rather than a complete overhaul.
     

    JakeClowd

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    I see your point about the detail. While Mew Two has mostly flat bases and solid colors (Which I'm not saying is a bad thing), Lugia has the back feathers and wings, Raquaza obtains horns and lots of detail lines along the side of his body, and Dialga has a much greater sense of detail and realism.
    How ever, I see this only as an acomplishment to how pokemon itself as a whole is evolving. I personally look forward to the new legendaries and pokemon to come.

    I do believe that the designers are running out of ideas. If you take a close look at them, you'll see resemblances to previous pokemon. Zekrom, for example, has an underside similar to that of Palkia.
    And what's with the tails???
     

    Ninja Caterpie

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    Does it feel the same as the original Pokemon? No.

    Is it a bad thing? No.

    The thing is, in the game, the sprites are all going to be in the same style. You can't put that much detail into a small sprite of, what is it, 64x64?
     
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