Red hack: Shin Pokemon Red/Blue/Green/JP builds (Bugfix, AI, and QoL patch)

MStern said:

I found low encounter rate Pokemon to be persistently frustrating, even with emulator speedup. Unless it's meant to be a super-secret easter egg, I don't think any encounter should be rarer than a 1 in 10 chance. I also don't understand why a quality of life feature like buying bulk coins is locked to the post game. It makes buying copies of the important Thunderbold TM disproportionally frustrating.

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most of those "frustrating" rare encounter issues were addressed in the newest version released a few days ago, so obtain & use the updated version


edit - I have to admit that I'm still using the old 1.24.0 release of the shin pokemon games from late Sept. 2023 but all having completed game saves (meaning E4 & rival champion beaten, cerulean cave access, 100% pokedex completion, etc.). now I just need to find some of the new areas with new hidden items to find using the itemfinder


maybe when it reaches halfway to 1.25.x (maybe 1.24.5 perhaps), I will update on my end

and maybe someday - add this key item from the cramorant game - the "cd player" that allows listening to the bg music tracks

Added CD Player key item. Is used to listen to every music track in the game

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that cd player item is obtained post-game in the cramorant game

Had to quickly release v1.24.5 to hotfix a couple things.

• Minor text edit for SS Anne npc in post-game.
• Minor fix for Itemfinder when there are multiple hidden items on screen.
• Fix Psywave symmetry

That last bullet was kind of a problem since it would make psywave desync again unless fixed.

If this is the place to ask, I have a suggestion.
Another hack called Pokémon PureRGB says that they found unused ice-looking tiles in the cave tileset, and used them for the Seafoam Island caves.


To me, this makes more sense to use instead of the brown rocky tiles that the other caves use since this cave is populated by ice-types, and later remakes make the cave frozen. If it's not too much trouble or beyond the goals of this hack, maybe you could try these changes to the Seafoam Island cave on a future version.

agrimes0 said:

If this is the place to ask, I have a suggestion.
Another hack called Pokémon PureRGB says that they found unused ice-looking tiles in the cave tileset, and used them for the Seafoam Island caves.
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To me, this makes more sense to use instead of the brown rocky tiles that the other caves use since this cave is populated by ice-types, and later remakes make the cave frozen. If it's not too much trouble or beyond the goals of this hack, maybe you could try these changes to the Seafoam Island cave on a future version.

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While a nice idea, the internal debate circle never agreed with the notion that the Seafoam Islands should be an ice cavern. While it may have been an early idea, ultimately this location is based on Enoshima and specifically the Iwaya Caves. These are ocean-worn caves that remain a few degrees below room temperature all days of the year, so thematically it follows to be a watery dungeon that gets tourists in the summer.

Contrast this to the Ice Path in Johto which is inspired by the Narusawa Ice Cave. It's an old lava tube located in the Aokigahara Forest next to Mt. Fuji that hovers close the freezing point year-round and contains some really pretty ice formations.

Hmm, I didn't know that it was based on a specific place. I played FireRed a few years ago and just assumed the cave was frozen over because of the presence of Articuno and the other ice types.

MStern said:

- Vanilla progression suggestion: the Water Gun TM should be placed in Pewter City (e.g., the museum) instead of Mt. Moon. That would finally give it utility while still giving a hard time to players who try to solo Brock using Charmander. It would also make a lot more Pokemon viable with randomization.

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Second this! It is crazy how many water pokemon don't get a water move until level 20+

agrimes0 said:

Hmm, I didn't know that it was based on a specific place. I played FireRed a few years ago and just assumed the cave was frozen over because of the presence of Articuno and the other ice types.

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I added it to pureRGB as I thought it would make the area a bit more unique and allowed usage of some unused stuff such as the unused purplish palette and the unused tiles. Also the articuno thing. However jojobear is right with regards to being more accurate to the area in Japan if it didnt look all icy.

I made a thing.