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Old November 22nd, 2011 (11:16 AM).
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So I built this team around Dragonite, and it's more or less just a bunch of Pokemon slapped together on a team one after another. I put each Pokemon on the team based on role instead of coverage and well.. It's worked out all right but I want to see improvement.

The team:

Modest @ Air Balloon
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Earth Power
Hidden Power Ice
Stealth Rocks

I lead with Heatran and set up stealth rocks on the first turn. Then I usually jsut switch it out and back in depending on when I need it. I opted for Flamethrower over Fire Blast because the latter has done me more harm than good. Earth Power and HP Ice for decent coverage.

Adamant @ Leftovers
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Swords Dance
Bullet Punch
Brick Break
Bug Bite

The revenge killer and potent sweeper after a SD. I opted Bug Bite over U-Turn because the latter makes it relatively pointless to use Swords Dance. Bullet Punch for priority and Brick Break for coverage.

Timid @ Leftovers
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Rapid Spin

Starmie is a great partner for Dragonite. I usually put Starmie in the turn before I switch to Dragonite. The reason for this is that entry hazards are not friendly to the big dragon. Starmie has the ability to get rid of them. Not only that, but it resists Dragonite's greatest weakness in ice. That and the fact that if and when the opponent tries to target Starmie's weaknesses, Dragonite can come in and completely wall the hit either by resistance or through multiscale.

Adamant @ Lum Berry
20 HP / 252 Atk / 20 Def / 216 Spe
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw
Fire Punch

The reason I'm trying to create this team. It's a pure monster after a DD or two and with SR support, it can KO a majority of teams by itself. I'm using a custom set to provide more bulk while still keeping the firepower. I'm not too worried about outspeeding scarfed pokemon and with it's bulk and multiscale, it can usually tank a hit anyways. I might replace Roost with Earthquake and switch Lum Berry with Leftovers. Problem is that people love trying to status Dragonite and with Lum Berry, I can get away with one. Thoughts?

Modest @ Life Orb
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nasty Plot
Aura Sphere
Dark Pulse
Vacuum Wave

I needed a special sweeper and the 5th generation has been very kind to Lucario with NP. Aura Sphere get's STAB, Dark Pulse for coverage, Vacuum Wave for priority/revenge.

Jolly @ Life Orb
52 HP / 252 Atk / 204 Spe
Meteor Mash
Ice Punch

For this final spot, I pretty much just threw someone in that I thought would be a nice partner for Dragonite and Metagross fit the bill as it could take attacks Dragonite was weak towards. I usually just try to scare off opposing Pokemon and Agility up and sweep from there with Metagross, not much else to add. Meteor Mash for mandatory STAB and potential +1 in attack, Earthquake for coverage, Ice Punch for dragons.

So there you have it. It's worked decently but I think that's more along the lines of the opponents I've been fighting being terrible. I've been trying to find someone to absorb electric attacks but haven't found one I like yet. And as you will probably say, I know this team has terrible coverage, which is why I've come to you guys. Having 4 steel types doesn't help either.. Help?

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Old November 22nd, 2011 (5:20 PM).
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With the EVs you're going with, Scizor is probably better off with Life Orb, since otherwise you can't 2HKO Ferrothorn (I think w/o LO, but since you run Brick Break I'm assuming not, since Superpower needs one SD anyway). But yeah, leftovers is suited for the bulkier varients and with Technician plus lots of power, Scizor is really amazing. tbh I used Superpower on Scizor and switched out or SD'd again and it still really hurt the opponent, so it can work, but if you prefer setting up perhaps more that's fine too.

I think to help out Dragonite, screens could really be useful for you. I'd suggest Latias, but that makes you further weak to ice and you don't really want to be switching into a steel type all the time. Soo, I suggest maybe replacing Metagross with Bronzong? It can set up dual screens, allowing Dragonite to get that extra defence for a bit, allowing it to set up, making it unstoppable, resists Dragonite's ice beam weakness like Metagross, and while it doesn't have ice type attacks, it can still do its job, stay in for a little longer to gyro ball or EQ and then switch out (plus levitate so no ground weakness!). While Hypnosis is mentioned in this set, I think with its accuracy you could be better off with EQ.

Either way the set being,

Bronzong @ Light Clay
252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SpD
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake

That's about all I can think of right now, though. Good luck!

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Old November 23rd, 2011 (9:18 AM).
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Hmm.. I'll try that out, thanks. I'm also thinking of putting Landorus in to absorb Electric attacks? The thing is that 4x weakness to ice..
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